All my hopes have now been squashed

Originally posted by lovethemtigers
I've said this many times, ladies ...I don't believe that leaked script at all - if you read it and really read it - I'm sorry but it is crappy and I don't seriously Disney would produce a movie based on this script....we cannot panic...Disney would be letting down a big majority of the audience if they don't center POTC 3 around Jack - because Jack is Pirates of the Caribbean...and Will is just an afterthought...so why would a minute character such as Will end up with the Girl....especially since it is indicated that JACK - the main character - Wants Liz.....AHHH

anyways...I do not believe that leaked script at all - and besides it was a really early release and has been revamped many, many times I'm sure....so hold on and lets wait and see....

good work you. nice thinking.

i agree whole heartedly.

i ll admit though, i get a bit dillusional about films. i tend to add on my own extra scenes to make it work out the way i want. like in peter pan, there is a secret final scene where peter comes back and wendy changes her mind and goes back to neverland with peter forever. 😉

I have to agree. I can't see Disney writing such a bad script nor do I see Bruckheimer Productions or Disney letting ANYTHING of the third movie script out before the movie is even finished. Why bother releasing the movie if everyone already knows what is going to be in it? Besides, I don't see Jerry Bruckheimer nor Disney being that sloppy or that incompetent.

Now, Bring Me That Horizon - And Really Bad Eggs. Drink Up Me Hearties Yo Ho

Anyone have the link to this fake/not fake script? I haven't seen it on anything, so I'm wondering about the places it gets posted.

Originally posted by IamMaryMoon
I have to agree. I can't see Disney writing such a bad script nor do I see Bruckheimer Productions or Disney letting ANYTHING of the third movie script out before the movie is even finished. Why bother releasing the movie if everyone already knows what is going to be in it? Besides, I don't see Jerry Bruckheimer nor Disney being that sloppy or that incompetent.

Now, Bring Me That Horizon - And Really Bad Eggs. Drink Up Me Hearties Yo Ho

Agreed....I really don't think they would leak out the script to the most anticipated movie of 2007 - come on look at the records DMC broke and the way it ended and the way the audience can't wait to see what will happen next...Sorry, but the script is a hoax as far as I'm concerned....or a ploy...but not at all what Bruckheimer Productions and Disney will release to us....no way. If it is, then I feel sorry for Disney, Jerry, Ted, Gore, Johnny - cuz the 3rd will be an embarrasment and big let down after the two glorious first films....why would they even introduce the LIz/Jack thing if they don't intend to act on it....although I do hope what Ted said about the compass in movie 2 is correct - cuz it would show that they did want us to realize that Jack wants Liz

Its all on keeptothecode.com

I got really told off on there for getting rude about Will being a pansy 😂

But they seem to have pretty credible sources..they are really confident that its a will/Liz thing

But you know what..I seriously get this whole vibe that Jack is going to be very persistant with Liz (key)

Also..as soon as we hear who the "teaser kiss/moment" is wioth in movie 3..then the ending will be confirmed...If its with Jack..then its Jack..if its with will..then its will.

apparently its a really sloppy..SLOPPY draft script lol...so that little note "will does not know Liz doesnt love jack" will not even be a main theme anymore

OH god..apparently Jack marries Will and Liz on his pearl because he is the captain of the ship..someone "saw" this scene being filmed..

It really just doesn't make sense..there were so many hints that Liz doesn't want that kind of life...why the hell is she gonna get married?

I mean come on..her wedding dress sinking away...what was the deal with all the symbolizm in the move if she's going to get married?

Okay, so lets examine - if the compass comments from TEd are authentic...then these observations we've made over the past months on other threads is correct:

First one:
MARTY
So... Do we have a heading?

JACK SPARROW
Hah! A heading. Set sail in a... mmm...
a general... in *that* way - direction.

GIBBS
Cap'n?

JACK SPARROW
Come on, snap to and make sail, you
know how this works. Come on, ?oy/?quick,
?oy/?quick, hey!

[Marty and Gibbs gather alone by the railing]

MARTY
Have you noticed lately... The captain
seems to be actin' a bit strange...
-er.

GIBBS
Settin' sail without knowing his own
headin'? Somethin's got Jack vexed.
Mark my words, what bodes ill for Jack
Sparrow bodes ill for us all.

[the Black Pearl is shown at night in a thunderstorm]

Jack is vexed - by Elizabeth, that's why the compass is not working...he wants her, but doesn't want to want her - he has no direction....

then at Tia's:
JACK SPARROW
We're looking for this. And what it
goes to.

TIA DALMA
The Compass you bartered from me. It
cannot lead you to dis?

JACK SPARROW
Maybe. Why?

TIA DALMA
Ayeee... Jack Sparrow does not know
what he wants! Or... do know, but are
loathe to claim it as your own. Your
key go to a chest, and it is what lay
inside the chest you seek, don't it?

GIBBS
What *is* inside?

PINTEL
Gold! Jewels? Unclaimed properties of
a valuable nature?

RAGETTI
Nothing... bad, I hope.

[a jar of eyeballs is hanging next to Ragetti's face as he speaks]

TIA DALMA
You know of... Davy Jones, yes? A man
of de sea. A great sailor, until he
ran afoul of dat which vex all men.

WILL TURNER
What vexes all men?

TIA DALMA
What, indeed.

GIBBS
The sea?

PINTEL
Sums!

RAGETTI
Dichotomy of good and evil.

JACK SPARROW
A *woman*.

TIA DALMA
A wo-*man*. He fell in love.

If this is true, then we can now assume that Jack wants Elizabeth...but cannot claim her as his own...because of Will or because he is Jack Sparrow - in his mind he is not suppose to be with just one woman, so he is in denial, but he can't stop thinking about her.......and what does Tia inform us of here...reflecting back to what Gibbs says earlier....What vexes men most....A WOMAN (jack know this, cuz he himself is vexed by a woman...a woman he can't have - or so he thinks - and a woman he shouldn't want, but does...and is causing him to go in circles - he is no longer focused on the material objects and that horizon....)

Gotta run, be back later today, girls....

I have a strong and horrible feeling that its going to be a movie where Liz..really wants to win Will back..Jack will be chasing after her but wont get her because apparently "she's not actually interested in him at all" He will probably steb back or something to stop Will becoming like Davy Jones...this well and truly sucks man..Why cant Jack just have love in his life..he needs, and deserves it more that Will IMO...Will has his dad..but Jack has no one if he loses Liz.

what was this whole deal with LIz's obssesion with the pirate life and Jack since movie 1?...why is she going to just deny that? It boggles the mind 🙁

OK we know how much everything changes drastically as their filming the movie, scripts get re-written over and over again, and there is still 8 months left before the movie comes out, nobody - not even them, knows what's going to happen at this point...

and thast last point you made is EXACTLY why they will have VERY difficult time pulling off the Will/Liz thing in the 3rd movie...this is why I doubt it......and where are these "confirmations"

apparently people "on the set" like extras are sneaking out and giving info on what is happening

Apparenty though..No one thought that kiss was coming at the end of movie 2..they had no spoilers for that..they were all so sure that there wasn't going to be one..

Originally posted by LovelyOne
apparently people "on the set" like extras are sneaking out and giving info on what is happening

Apparenty though..No one thought that kiss was coming at the end of movie 2..they had no spoilers for that..they were all so sure that there wasn't going to be one..

Exactly.......and there is nothing in writing forom anyone with authority that is involved with the movie that has comfirmed anything - exept the possibility of more movies after the third....buit that really has nothing to do with anything right now...in regards to the third....

maybe we think she wants will..and movie 4..they decide not to be together 😂

LOL but I think we will know weather there will be a 4th movie or not before the third one comes out.

Am I the only one here that just wants Liz to realize he is the man for her?..I just want to see her run up and give him the biggest kiss of his life..by movie 3.

I have a feeling the writers are deliberatley making it out so that everyone thinks Jack Sparrow is not capable of long term love..Its like "oh look he couldn't stick with Tia".."oh look he doesn't care about Liz he just handed her over to Sao Feng"..."jack is stealing her from will"

Its going to be all the arguments against him from all the other characters, the audience...and maybe even Jack himself

Its going to be Will's argument that he can never love her
It's going to be Davy's argument
Its going to be everyones argument.

but...I ask again

Since when did Jack EVER force Liz to be forward with him? NEVER..everything she did was her own impulse

And how does he not care for her? Look at the ending of movie 2 for gods sake.

I think everyone is being tricked into thinking that Jack is completley incapable of loving a person on a long term basis...but in the end..we are going to be surprised by what he can actually do when it comes to loving a person

I honestly think that he is going to deny immortality from Calypso to save Elizabeth or to go back to her.

THAT would be the moment that seals the deal..Jack willing to give up immortality for a woman???..he was willing to give up his pearl for her so maybe this is what we will see happen later but on a much more amazing scale.

Originally posted by LovelyOne
Its all on keeptothecode.com

I got really told off on there for getting rude about Will being a pansy 😂

But they seem to have pretty credible sources..they are really confident that its a will/Liz thing

But you know what..I seriously get this whole vibe that Jack is going to be very persistant with Liz (key)

Also..as soon as we hear who the "teaser kiss/moment" is wioth in movie 3..then the ending will be confirmed...If its with Jack..then its Jack..if its with will..then its will.

apparently its a really sloppy..SLOPPY draft script lol...so that little note "will does not know Liz doesnt love jack" will not even be a main theme anymore

OH god..apparently Jack marries Will and Liz on his pearl because he is the captain of the ship..someone "saw" this scene being filmed..

It really just doesn't make sense..there were so many hints that Liz doesn't want that kind of life...why the hell is she gonna get married?

I mean come on..her wedding dress sinking away...what was the deal with all the symbolizm in the move if she's going to get married?

I was thinking about that the other day--- how likely it would be that IF will and liz got married, Jack would be the one to marry them, AND aboard his ship, to tie in his whole "marriage" quip from 2. i can totally picture that. Jack is so hott. gosh. what the heck.

oh and i forgot to say above,

i think its really interesting how different forums have different opinions, as a whole.

this whole forum seems to be pretty Jack and Liz obsessed, while keeptothecode seems to be all about will. hmmm.

I KNOW!! OMG its like Will Will Will..he's not even the main character for gods sake!
why is he going to be the man who wins out over Jack..he is the support actor..

but i could SWEAR they were talking about sex there in that "marriage" scene

You know what..All of these people are reading the draft script for AWE and are taking it so literally..all the dialogue and everything..even though the directors have said its been changed since then The script for movie 2 was finalized BEFORE that script was..so the themes may have been changed..and they just didn't get round to changing them in that draft script before it got leaked

Honestly I will say something that is obvious in movie 2..Like the compass pointing to Jack for lust..and the fact she went in to kiss him again before she left meaning that it cant be over between them..and they will completely ignore it because its not what the AWE draft script says..THAT IS THE OLD version of the story..why can they not pick up on this??

Also the norrington picking up on whats really going on..

they just brush it all off as "it cant be right because of the DRAFT SCRIPT BLAH!"

they said that they started to film the 3rd one without an script, so maybe they're going to change it many times.

and for disney (they want to make much money) it would be stupid to creat a will/liz ending.
see what they earned on the first one. not as much as yet with the second: and why? everyone just run into cinema because they wanted to see the liz/jack thing.
so if they'll put liz/will at the end, no one will run more then 1 time into cinema (not me)

and why then have they removed so much liz/jack videos on youtube? maybe because it runs in the direction their idea goes. or why?

I agree with both of you......all fenominal points.....

LoveyOne, we all want what you want. This board will quickly turn into a support group if a Will/Liz ending surfaces. "POTC: Jack/Liz shippers in denial." Ha ha ha........I just want to cry.

Nah............no it won't lol