All my hopes have now been squashed

honestly..It seems as if people are blind to what is happening to Jack..he is falling in love..Its been an important factor since movie 1 with his character..the dog and everything symbolizes how much his character wants the BONE! and NEEDS the bone (love) what makes the dog happiest?? a bone..what will make Jack happiest? Love will

people just cant seem to see it but we will..trust me we will..Jack is going to show that he is truly worthy of her..I hope lol

I have a feeling that its all going to happen with the offer of immortality

that would be lovely and honestly I think it'll go in that direction. I've said it to my friends after I've seen the deleted scenes from part 1 and they did not belived me but then 2 came out and...

exactly..but why are there all these rumors of them filming a "wedding??"

I dont understand why...when I look at that pic in your sig..all I see is a couple that should be together forever.

Whats going to be the most important message to the audience

A materialistic jerk of a man can change and love someone so much so that they deny immortality to save that very person?

Or A honest man..who should be the one to get the girl..because he is honest..Why should a character who has never learned anything about becoming a better person in the series get the girl?

makes no sense to me

it seems people are so interested in seeing the good man get the girl..they cant even see how Jack is changing for her to be a good man too..are they blind or what?

Yeah, evertime jack saves liz life...and will?? he (will) has nothing done for her since the first movie
and jack gave his life and his ship for her...isn't that enough?????

...maybe the wedding of will and liz is not accepted so that jack and liz could marry at the end of the film... (just a thought) or maybe she says no...(would be fun)

I have a reason to believe the people on that site are so intent on having Will getting the girl cause they're all middle-aged people whom have suffered so much heartbreak from the lovable rebelious hero that they've decided that everyone should be miserably like them with an honest and boring partner.

9 people PMd the mods about me LMAO..I'm upsetting their clean environment..

honestly..I swear if Jack sparrow doesnt get the love he craves from someone so much..then I will probably leave the cinema in tears..he needs it man..he deserves it..he is the bravest of everyone in the movie..he's done more for Liz than anyone else.

Will has his dad and Liz

Liz has will

Jack?? material things??

how can that mean his charater is forever happy?

I think everyone said in the first one: Oh fine she did not choose Norrington, but a pirate (will)

I said: Pirate? Will never was a pirate...I mean since Jack an Liz have met, they were so close (emotionally), they admired each other and she was thinking of him (during the maid said, that she was threatened by a pirate) ...

Yeah, and I'll cry too...I started nearly at the end of this part...I thought I never could have done this to a man who gave up his ship and his life for me...never

Yes I agree with you...If she did that once..why cant she do it again?

Is it so hard to see that Jack wants love from her? Why cant people see it..

they seem to be thinking that he should just stay the same at the end of the trilogy..but I think that Will is going to become less worthy of her and Jack is going to be the one who finally steps up and becomes the hero and better man of the story....not Will..why did they describe him as the hero..he's not a hero...not by a long shot

oh, will is the hero of the hearts of all thoses little teenies... their first love I think

...and everyone has seen that there's something going on, deeper than just lust or something...and I think every character changes, best you can see it on norrington, what had become of him?

exactly..this movie is less for the kiddies..more for the adults..and what I notice is..that People on JD boards and OB boards tend to have an anti Jack/Liz thing..I dont know why..and people who are clean freaks have that going on too..but the rest??? I think they make up the majority of people who are far more interested in a JAck/Liz pairing.

right now people are like.."oh poor Will" but I have a strong feeling they wont be saying that for very long...he's going to turn into an ******* IMO

I had a thought (everyone run) about this wedding deal. Now, a wedding between Will and Liz would close their adventures in a fancy, very loud and exciting way, right? It would be the happily ever after. The writers wouldn't want to let people know that would happen. If we're supposed to cheer for Will and Liz, they'll lead us to believe she will choose Jack.
But what if in the three's adventures in this third one, they have to "put on a show" for lack of a better phrase. Jack might marry them, but it may not be Liz choosing Will. You see? They might do it to convince someone that's what's going on. There could be any number of reasons.
Of course the obvious one would be that they do go back to each other, but they know they had a good thing going with Jack and Liz. They won't just dismiss it and pretend it didn't happen.

damn i cant think of ideas im sick and have a fever lol i know out of subject im sry
take care please keep posting new ideas everyone
bye

yeah...all I know who have seen this film of my friends said, it's hotter, better and just perfect (liz/jack) and I think why should they have created all the tension between them, just to throw it away in the 3rd??? No...I don't think so...

I mean they have done even a little thrill with jack /liz on the island in part 1...and I thought they'll make more out of it. (one of my friends said: why did you knew that? It was never clear in part one -> STUPID!!!)

I honestly think..all we need to do is..Watch what he does with the key..🙂..and Only up until the part where he gets the heart and puts it close to his...and then what we see with the key/empty chest next is quite clear.."NO MAN was the right key to her heart except JACK" will looks at the empty chest..Norrie does...so does davy..

As he follows the key..he learns from his mistakes..he needs to learn from his mistakes to become the better man for Liz?..he took the key rather unfairly from norrie and will..so as soon as he gets it he falls into a grave..he then gets pulled out...(purgatory)

Movie 3:
he then loses it and it gets hooked on something..I think this is where he puts her on Sao Fengs ship he treats her as leverage here..he thinks he's all smart and that he's gonna see her again..as he runs in the wheel he's all smiling thinking he's gonna get it back but WHAM..he gets some sense knocked into him! This is where Liz is kidnapped from Sao Feng's ship and Jack realizes?..So its like "YOU IDIOT!" he gets up and THIS time he knows to avoid the bar (stop threatening her as leverage)..then there is a big fight over it in the middle of the wheel (I think)..jack is the Only one without a sword..(I think)..then will basically stabs it on the end of his sword.and Jack rescues it from him..he hangs up high (offered immortality?????),,but then falls down (No he wants to save Liz because he loves her)..then he has the key round his neck..and mr bad man gets knocked out..(Will forgets about Liz and Jack forever? thinking of Circe the witch/Tia (odyssey) offering to do this) The Only 2 people who don't drink Tia's "drink to ease the pain of remembering Jack" are Jack himself..and LIZ..in the Odyssey Circe the witch would hand out drinks in her house to people to make their forget their pasts..(all symbolic me thinks)..Odysseus and Eurylocus were the only 2 not to drink the drink..Odysseus was absent from the scene,,and Eurylocus did not drink..he ran back to Odysseus

there is a whole Odyssey resemblance as you can tell Odysseus turned down immortality so that he could save Penelope...don't even get me started on how similar she is to Liz.

I just hope I'm right 😂

me too

Originally posted by LovelyOne
BAH! this sucks ass...there are loads of "confirmations" from people at Disney who have been saying that Its a Will/Liz thing they are aiming for 🙁

And there are writers notes on the pages of the leaked script that "Will is wrong in assuming that Elizabeth Loved Jack"

Bruckheimer said at the last comic-con that the next movie as far as relationships go would be about Liz trying to get Will back.

and there are more..oh man this has just totally made my dreams crash and burn..

Originally posted by ILoveMyDaniel
I don't mind either way who ends up with who. Jack and Liz are hot together but I think Will and Liz are just....meant to be together.

If you think that why do you have pics of Jack and Liz kissing in your signature and avatar???? No, No, nO, Liz and Jack are meant to be together...she dreams of pirates....she has studied pirates...A pirate rescues her from drowning when no one else could or would...Two Peas in a Pod....We are very much alike you and I, I-You, Us....You will come over to my side, I know it...one word, love, Curiosity...all these lines were for nothing....No they signify to me Jack and Liz are meant for each other....the compass pointing to Jack, Norrington noticing the relationship developing between Jack and Liz...Beckett telling her maybe it was fate interveining.....all of this was for nothing I just don't believe it.

Well, if you can logically read you will notice that I said that Jack and Liz are hot together so that may answer your questoin as to why I have them both in my signature and avatar. And other than that, I have no opinion. We'll just have to see for our own selves in the 3rd movie or whatever.

Originally posted by ILoveMyDaniel
Well, if you can logically read you will notice that I said that Jack and Liz are hot together so that may answer your questoin as to why I have them both in my signature and avatar. And other than that, I have no opinion. We'll just have to see for our own selves in the 3rd movie or whatever.

I didn't mean to be rude....and the rest of the post was meant as a general discussion..not really directed to what you said.

Sorry.

Originally posted by LovelyOne
9 people PMd the mods about me LMAO..I'm upsetting their clean environment..

honestly..I swear if Jack sparrow doesnt get the love he craves from someone so much..then I will probably leave the cinema in tears..he needs it man..he deserves it..he is the bravest of everyone in the movie..he's done more for Liz than anyone else.

Will has his dad and Liz

Liz has will

Jack?? material things??

how can that mean his charater is forever happy?

HAHAHAHA i think people did that to me too... cause of my sarcastic comment... LOL... oh gee. no more KTTC for me... it is depressing over there. we'll just stay here where people can think logically and deeply about movies. hehehe. oh, and where people appreciate how hot jack is...