Originally posted by bigbran
So Mxy, can beat PR beyonder, but he can't beat LT?
I don't get how you debate?
And your little debating partener, seems to think he wins.
You mean the weaker version of Spectre, that had no host?
Actually I would say that with no host the Spectre was at one of its strongest levels (DoV), going by the feats it did and that it took the DC presence to stop him or rather it (Spectre).
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlSo thats your only arguement? You said he would beat PR Beyonder, and now your saying, it was only a figment of his imagination?
it was a figment of his imagination.
Originally posted by bigbran
So thats your only arguement? You said he would beat PR Beyonder, and now your saying, it was only a figment of his imagination?
Weak!
And actually, for 2 years, it was canon, and the writers ret conned it, because PR Beyonder was just redicules, how interesting is it to have a character that can do anything? No body could match him, cept, Owen Reece, and they ret conned him, because he stood up to the being that could do anything. So therefore, they ret conned the 2 most powerful Marvel characters, because they were insane.
And....bed.
And I'm saying the same thing. From the time the kingdom was printed, until Infinite Crisis was printed, All of the else world's were cannon. So much like the beyonder was cannon, so was the universal destroying and creating mxy. it's the same thing. and if we go by that, mxy did on panel, what they beyonder did not do on panel.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And I'm saying the same thing. From the time the kingdom was printed, until Infinite Crisis was printed, All of the else world's were cannon. So much like the beyonder was cannon, so was the universal destroying and creating mxy. it's the same thing. and if we go by that, mxy did on panel, what they beyonder did not do on panel.
by the way kingdom come, its sequel/prequel is cannon too, check wiki.
Originally posted by Jesse7Read the first god damn Sentence!
by the way kingdom come, its sequel/prequel is cannon too, check wiki.
Originally posted by rotiart
Actually I don't care anymore.In truth. If Pre Retcon Mr. Mxy can really blink out the whole multiverse... LT resets it. its a stalemate.
but if its retconnect mr. mxy.. well guess what... he loses.
Um Lt has never shown the ability to blink anyone out of existence (I imagine he could do it to beings far weaker then him), and he has never shown the ability to be able to instantly reset or destroy the multiverse.
If anything going by feats he has shown to not even be able to deal with Korvac, since he couldn't destroy Korvac or that universe, he was only able to seal it off.
Mr. Mxy on the other hand destroyed the marvel multiverse as if it was a game and in a joking manner to boot.
Originally posted by Jesse7Marvel?
Um Lt has never shown the ability to blink anyone out of existence (I imagine he could do it to beings far weaker then him), and he has never shown the ability to be able to instantly reset or destroy the multiverse.If anything going by feats he has shown to not even be able to deal with Korvac, since he couldn't destroy Korvac or that universe, he was only able to seal it off.
Mr. Mxy on the other hand destroyed the marvel multiverse as if it was a game and in a joking manner to boot.
Originally posted by Jesse7
Um Lt has never shown the ability to blink anyone out of existence (I imagine he could do it to beings far weaker then him), and he has never shown the ability to be able to instantly reset or destroy the multiverse.If anything going by feats he has shown to not even be able to deal with Korvac, since he couldn't destroy Korvac or that universe, he was only able to seal it off.
Mr. Mxy on the other hand destroyed the marvel multiverse as if it was a game and in a joking manner to boot.
P.S. I know LT can make beings into universes/eternity, ala SS for an example, but LT has never shown on panel to be able to instantly destroy the marvel multiverse or reset it as Mr. Mxy has on panel.
Originally posted by bigbran
Read the first god damn Sentence!
Or second?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elseworlds
Wikipedia on Kingdom Come
Effects on mainstream continuity
Due to the popularity of the series it was suggested that DC attempt to steer the DCU towards the world depicted in Kingdom Come. This was dismissed, but Alex Ross began work on a prequel titled Kingdom (see below) that would address how certain characters came to be (including the new Wildcat) and tie mainstream continuity to that shown in Kingdom Come. Due to a falling out with co-creator Mark Waid, Ross's series was never produced and Waid produced the prequel/sequel The Kingdom without any input from Ross.
Since the publication of Kingdom Come, some of its elements have found their way into the mainstream continuity:
It was attempted to tie mainstream continuity with what was found in Kingdom Come.
In Kingdom that was done due to "hypertime"
As of 2005, the DC executive editor states no comics as of then on will include any inclusion of hypertime, in fact, hypertime no longer exists...
so the inclusion of Kingdom and Kingdom Come no longer exist as in continuity.
Originally posted by rotiart
Wikipedia on Kingdom ComeEffects on mainstream continuity
Due to the popularity of the series it was suggested that DC attempt to steer the DCU towards the world depicted in Kingdom Come. This was dismissed, but Alex Ross began work on a prequel titled Kingdom (see below) that would address how certain characters came to be (including the new Wildcat) and tie mainstream continuity to that shown in Kingdom Come. Due to a falling out with co-creator Mark Waid, Ross's series was never produced and Waid produced the prequel/sequel The Kingdom without any input from Ross.Since the publication of Kingdom Come, some of its elements have found their way into the mainstream continuity:
It was attempted to tie mainstream continuity with what was found in Kingdom Come.
In Kingdom that was done due to "hypertime"
As of 2005, the DC executive editor states no comics as of then on will include any inclusion of hypertime, in fact, hypertime no longer exists...
so the inclusion of Kingdom and Kingdom Come no longer exist as in continuity.
No more hypertime?.....no more hyperman?...
Originally posted by bigbran
Read the first god damn Sentence!
Or second?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elseworlds
the writer of the series said that the kingdom made it all cannon. isn't this the same argument about where the pre retcon beyonder got his power? from the writer? The writer says that it was cannon. and if it was non cannon as you insist, then why pre tell was it used in two cannon stories? Superboy and flash? that is what I thought. it was cannon. You lose.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
the writer of the series said that the kingdom made it all cannon. isn't this the same argument about where the pre retcon beyonder got his power? from the writer? The writer says that it was cannon. and if it was non cannon as you insist, then why pre tell was it used in two cannon stories? Superboy and flash? that is what I thought. it was cannon. You lose.
so its cannon? woot!
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlYa, I lose.
the writer of the series said that the kingdom made it all cannon. isn't this the same argument about where the pre retcon beyonder got his power? from the writer? The writer says that it was cannon. and if it was non cannon as you insist, then why pre tell was it used in two cannon stories? Superboy and flash? that is what I thought. it was cannon. You lose.
Originally posted by bigbran
Ya, I lose.
You do know, that they have an elseworlds, Holy Bat Terror?
Is that in continium? No! What about JLA the nail?
Dude, just accept, that your wrong, I have shown where I got my information from. Where did yours come from? Even then, the writer also said that Beyonder has one million times more power than the multiverse, and you write that off.
Bed.
WHY was the Kingdom, which you are calling an else worlds tell, used in a cannon flash story arc and a cannon super boy story arc? Explain that to me mr. kingdom and kingdom come were else world tales and not cannon. HOW come an else worlds tale was used in two cannon books? that is what I thought. you dont' have an answer.