The Trials of Shazam

Originally posted by manjaro
well ok then... i always just took it as the same way Zeus gave all his kids powers, he just allowed shazam to mirror those divine energies..i didnt think he would literally be draining their powers

Zeus doesn't have the power to do so. And he stated he didn't want to do so as well though his avatar Jupiter did wanted to do so. Zeus didn't like the idea of some mortal child running around with their full powers. So he allowed a small portion of it.

If Cap. Marvel possessed the full Power of Zeus, he would be able nuke galaxies with his lightening attacks....

Only reason Diana can literally mirror her patrons powers is because of three reasons:

A) Gaea. Gaea is the Divine Mother of the Greek Pantheon. She's more powerful than all of them combined and wields a great sum of the Godwave.

B) She needed to be as powerful as possible to take on the mad god, Ares so he wouldn't destroy the world. So they made her that way to be a weapon against him.

C) She's the grandchild of Zeus. She's favored above all. So naturally...

Originally posted by badabing
Marvel with only a portion of the gods powers wouldn't be able to hang with Supes. CM doesn't literally get Solomon's, Herc's, Atlas's, Zeus's, Achilles and Mercury's powers from the individuals, but get bestowed with their abilities.

Editorial jumble caused by WW's Post-Crisis History. CM's been retconned Post-Crisis several times.

Again, if he bestowed the Power of Zeus, his lightening attacks should nuke everything that stands in his way.

Originally posted by Draco69
Zeus doesn't have the power to do so. And he stated he didn't want to do so as well though his avatar Jupiter did wanted to do so. Zeus didn't like the idea of some mortal child running around with their full powers. So he allowed a small portion of it.

If Cap. Marvel possessed the full Power of Zeus, he would be able nuke galaxies with his lightening attacks....

Only reason Diana can literally mirror her patrons powers is because of three reasons:

A) Gaea. Gaea is the Divine Mother of the Greek Pantheon. She's more powerful than all of them combined and wields a great sum of the Godwave.

B) She needed to be as powerful as possible to take on the mad god, Ares so he wouldn't destroy the world. So they made her that way to be a weapon against him.

C) She's the grandchild of Zeus. She's favored above all. So naturally...

Originally posted by Broly92
...your a fanboy

No. Not really. It's just that Post-Crisis WW messed up everything up. CM was created to be equal to Superman. However WW's Post-Crisis history leads to subject of debate.

Which is why CM is retconned so much. The first two times didn't work out because of Perez's WW so they tried again.

I consider WW, CM and Superman all to be rivals.

Except on paper it shouldn't....

Originally posted by Draco69
No. Not really. It's just that Post-Crisis WW messed up everything up. CM was created to be equal to Superman. However WW's Post-Crisis history leads to subject of debate.

Which is why CM is retconned so much. The first two times didn't work out because of Perez's WW so they tried again.

I consider WW, CM and Superman all to be rivals.

Except on paper it shouldn't....

Originally posted by Draco69
Editorial jumble caused by WW's Post-Crisis History. CM's been retconned Post-Crisis several times.

Again, if he bestowed the Power of Zeus, his lightening attacks should nuke everything that stands in his way.

Originally posted by Broly92
WW is like Dc's Thing or Wonder Man competes with the big boys and is up there but not on top

She's at he top disregarding cosmics like the New Gods or Green Lantern Corps .

In terms of raw strength and power, she's at the level of Superman, Orion and Despero.

She's frequently been described by other superheroes and Superman himself as "second to Superman".

That's pretty damn at the top.

Captain Marvel is at the top too. But WW's and CM's conflicting history makes it confusing.

In fact the whole, War of the Gods storyline was to clear up that mess. Which they didn't......

Originally posted by Broly92
WW is like Dc's Thing or Wonder Man competes with the big boys and is up there but not on top

Originally posted by Validus
You wouldn't happen to be from SHC would you?

SuperHeroChat.

Yeah, that site has a MAJOR WW hate going on there. Kinda like Wolverine in this forum...except ours makes sense.....

Originally posted by Validus
You wouldn't happen to be from SHC would you?

Originally posted by Draco69
SuperHeroChat.

Yeah, that site has a MAJOR WW hate going on there. Kinda like Wolverine in this forum...except ours makes sense.....

Originally posted by Broly92
No and
I don't dislike WW at all 😑

That site does. I've read 200 page arguements stating that a well-written Black Panther could take down Diana.

Seriously.....

😘

Originally posted by Draco69
That site does. I've read 200 page arguements stating that a well-written Black Panther could take down Diana.

Seriously.....

😘

Originally posted by Draco69
That site does. I've read 200 page arguements stating that a well-written Black Panther could take down Diana.

Seriously.....

😘

Originally posted by Draco69
That site does. I've read 200 page arguements stating that a well-written Black Panther could take down Diana.

Seriously.....

😘

Originally posted by Validus
What about all her fans being gender traitors. 😂

Oh yes. Apparently you're not allowed to be a male and be a WW fan. If you are, you're considered a traitor to the male race.

I USED to be a member but they drove me out.....bastards.

Originally posted by Draco69
Oh yes. Apparently you're not allowed to be a male and be a WW fan. If you are, you're considered a traitor to the male race.

I USED to be a member but they drove me out.....bastards.

😛 kidding

that site has some killer respect threads KMC ought to take some lessons, but its not really good for anything else...cuz i think you'll find that the same group of ppl road trip to a bunch o diff comic forums like SHC,KMC,CBR and X-fan...myself included of course😮 ...and im so uncreative that my screen name is always Manjaro everywhere...

but back to this i usually take the view that of course Zeus wouldnt allow shazam to give his avatars HIS full powers...im just saying that he allowed him to give them abilities similar to his kids...if he is actually giving them an ACTUAL portion it would be hard to reconcile....that means that if he has a portion of Atlas' stamina A. should be really struggling to keep the world on his shoulders right now..., and does achilles get cowardly all of a sudden when CM charges into battle ? IDK...damn this cursed retconning why couldnt they just keep shit simple? and if atlas is strong enuff to hold up the world why not just give CM his strentgh

As a newbie at SHC, they are hella marvelized over there. Hella i say!!

But they do have a few things right.....WW would be pawned by T'Challa in his vibranium suit with prep.
Thing is stronger than her(betterlooking too), and her entire existence is wasted as is.

Her whole point of existence, is being second to no man.
But in the ranks of DC, she will always be second fiddle to Superman.
She needs her own separate universe to thrive in.

And since Cap Marvel is always portrayed as the equal to Superman, she's now behind two men.
Add in Cap Marvels classic foil of Black Adam, and now she's behind three.

3 men before her...........3 men..........3 orifices the female body has...............She also has a lasso that can tie her up as well..........

Its time for a circle jerk!!!! (-^_^-)

SHCers actually tend to think WW is well above The Thing in strength, and probably stronger than Wonder Man or J'onn. Positions I can't agree with, comparing fights against top tiers.

Mind you, I disagree with a LOT of what I see on this site's vs. board as well. But there are a few good posters at both places.

Are you the Jimmy San from Comixtreme, as well as the Jimmy from SHC, aka He who must not be named??