cap vs wolverine vs spider man · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by spidey-dude
spider-man takes em both out.

To bad he never took either one of them out 1 on 1. How is he going to do anything different this time. Oh, wait, let me guess, they have put spiderman mind into sabertooth body and also downloaded all of sabertooth fighting experience into sabertooth body also, well that would make a difference in this fight. Well if that happened spiderman is winning but if its the regular spiderman that loses on a regular basis to expert fighters than Im going with wolverine on this one.

spidey-dude Restricted

Originally posted by carver9
To bad he never took either one of them out 1 on 1. How is he going to do anything different this time. Oh, wait, let me guess, they have put spiderman mind into sabertooth body and also downloaded all of sabertooth fighting experience into sabertooth body also, well that would make a difference in this fight. Well if that happened spiderman is winning but if its the regular spiderman that loses on a regular basis to expert fighters than Im going with wolverine on this one.

ive never seen wolverine or cap have the muscle to do that.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by spidey-dude

ive never seen wolverine or cap have the muscle to do that.

I have never seen cap or wolverine fight superman while encoated in red sunlight either. I think that wolverine claws would have a much larger effect on superman than spiderman kicks or punches. Did you even read that book. Put up the scan of lex is granting spiderman one of superman weakness, red sunlight.

Now this is better to me, wolverine beating someone that spiderman dont even have a prayer against.
http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=heal23cc.jpg

But i bet you i can do better than you. Im going to show you a fight of wolverine almost killing someone that trade blows and has stalemated superman on numerous of occasions without any outside help (unlike spiderman).

Metalmanx Illuminati Founder

Isn't that Deathverine?

In that case, why don't we just use Cosmic Spidey, eh? 😬

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Isn't that Deathverine?
In that case, why don't we just use Cosmic Spidey, eh? 😬

You do realize, even though you think that he had enhancements that that is the same wolverine that is used in comics today. There isnt any difference and you will never be able to prove it. The only thing that apocalypse gave wolverine was his adamantium back. Deal with it. You dont have anything or any writing that states that that is a different wolverine and if it isnt then the same wolverine that walks around still have the upgrades that apocalypse granted him. Wouldnt you say so.

jasonk3 Restricted

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Isn't that Deathverine?
In that case, why don't we just use Cosmic Spidey, eh? 😬

Well I guess because "Deathverine's" upgrades consisted of his Admantium being bonded to his skeleton, I mean Jinzin and Cap't have proven that before. As far as him attacking that steel door, I believe he was slicing through it, but I am not absolutely sure if that was the case, you would have to ask Jinzin or capt on issues regarding deathverine. 😬

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Isn't that Deathverine?
In that case, why don't we just use Cosmic Spidey, eh? 😬

I got this from marvel page and this is what it says. Now show me where it states that wolverine got enhanced anything in there besides his adamantium.

Logan was subsequently kidnapped by the would-be conqueror Apocalypse and forced to fight the savage assassin Sabretooth for the mantle of the Horseman Death. Knowing that he might be able to resist Apocalypse's programming and that Sabretooth would be a very dangerous villain with the support of Apocalypse, Logan fought and defeated his nemesis. As a result, his skeleton again was laced with Adamantium. Under the control of Apocalypse, Wolverine fought the X-Men ferociously in his Death persona. But with the help of his teammates, he eventually broke free from Apocalypse's control. [12]

Metalmanx Illuminati Founder

http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anotherwolverinestrengthfeat9n.gif

Yea. And that makes sense to you?

Carver, in all seriousness. Do you think that Wolverine (current) can physically force himself through X-Man's (Nate Grey) telekinesis?

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Metalmanx
http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anotherwolverinestrengthfeat9n.gif
Yea. And that makes sense to you?
Carver, in all seriousness. Do you think that Wolverine (current) can physically force himself through X-Man's (Nate Grey) telekinesis?

Well maybe this will help you. With these 1st scans it kinda make wolverine look like he's indestructible, not a scar on his body.

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3104/wolverine1616wb6.jpg
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5285/wolverine1617zl9.jpg

and heres wolverine lifting up a bolder
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2338/wolverine42012of5.jpg

but that scan you showed me didnt change my mind about him not being changed at all by apocalypse. Now if you wolverine did something like he did when he lifted up that elevator full of people than hey but we dont see wolverine as all, we dont know what he was doing on the other side of that door. You cant prove that wolverine was upgraded at all. Show me something that says that he was upgraded.

masterbruce Senior Member

The problem with wolverine's HF is that it's wildly inconsistent.

One day he passes out from a slash of his guts or a shot to the neck

the next day he survives an explosion without a scratch

its too inconsistent

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by masterbruce
The problem with wolverine's HF is that it's wildly inconsistent.
One day he passes out from a slash of his guts or a shot to the neck
the next day he survives an explosion without a scratch
its too inconsistent

now this is a statement that i agree with

masterbruce Senior Member

Originally posted by carver9
now this is a statement that i agree with

that's cool, that proves that you're not a fanboy and that you are logical

Metalmanx Illuminati Founder

Originally posted by carver9
Well maybe this will help you. With these 1st scans it kinda make wolverine look like he's indestructible, not a scar on his body.
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3104/wolverine1616wb6.jpg
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5285/wolverine1617zl9.jpg
and heres wolverine lifting up a bolder
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2338/wolverine42012of5.jpg
but that scan you showed me didnt change my mind about him not being changed at all by apocalypse. Now if you wolverine did something like he did when he lifted up that elevator full of people than hey but we dont see wolverine as all, we dont know what he was doing on the other side of that door. You cant prove that wolverine was upgraded at all. Show me something that says that he was upgraded.

As I predicted, you didn't really answer my question. Try again.

Metalmanx Illuminati Founder

Also. This:
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2338/wolverine42012of5.jpg

He's pushing up a large piece of debris. He's not "lifting a boulder".

It's not even off the ground. 😬

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Also. This:
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2338/wolverine42012of5.jpg
He's pushing up a large piece of debris. He's not "lifting a boulder".
It's not even off the ground. 😬

So can you do it. Can you move a rock about that size. Do you even think that captain america can lift a rock off the ground like that. Like I said I didnt see anything on the other side that showed wolverine using any kind of strength but beside that, all in all, in wolverine entire career he have been doing some amazing things strength wise, so i dont put anything past him.

masterbruce Senior Member

Carver, what relevance is it what Metalmanx can lift???

And yes, Cap could prob lift the rock the way Logan is.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Also. This:
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2338/wolverine42012of5.jpg
He's pushing up a large piece of debris. He's not "lifting a boulder".
It's not even off the ground. 😬

I want you to answer this question, how is spiderman even beating wolverine, his strength dont matter. Can spiderman punch like this.
http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=slitheriswrong88te.gif

If he cant then hes not beating wolverine. Ok lets say if spiderman webs wolverine up, then what. What would stop wolverine from just clawing his way out of the web or even finding a way out of the webs, nothing. Spiderman can web wolverine up and go over and punch on him all day but it would be pointless. Spiderman strength mean nothing to wolverine.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by masterbruce
Carver, what relevance is it what Metalmanx can lift???
And yes, Cap could prob lift the rock the way Logan is.

I was just being funny man. 😄

but i dont think that cap could move that rock.

Metalmanx Illuminati Founder

Originally posted by carver9
So can you do it. Can you move a rock about that size. Do you even think that captain america can lift a rock off the ground like that. Like I said I didnt see anything on the other side that showed wolverine using any kind of strength but beside that, all in all, in wolverine entire career he have been doing some amazing things strength wise, so i dont put anything past him.

Yes. Cap could lift that debris just as easily as Logan can.

And like I said before, you still didn't answer my question.

"Do you think that Wolverine (current) can physically force himself through X-Man's (Nate Grey) telekinesis?"

masterbruce Senior Member

Originally posted by carver9
I want you to answer this question, how is spiderman even beating wolverine, his strength dont matter. Can spiderman punch like this.
http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=slitheriswrong88te.gif
If he cant then hes not beating wolverine. Ok lets say if spiderman webs wolverine up, then what. What would stop wolverine from just clawing his way out of the web or even finding a way out of the webs, nothing. Spiderman can web wolverine up and go over and punch on him all day but it would be pointless. Spiderman strength mean nothing to wolverine.

Spiderman can't kill Wolverine, almost no one can.

If Spiderman webs up Wolverine, wolverine is incapacitated and that's a loss. Spiderman can pour concrete over Logan and Logan will be stuck there until the end of time.