Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, except Wolverine doesn't have the same healing factor he had against the Hulk as he does now. I remember Sentry knocking him out with one punch.And it took Hulk a couple punches.
Spiderman can definitely do the same thing, you act like it takes Hulk level strength to do it, does Wolverine have superhuman invulnerability now too?
Actually it took two after Logan hasd already bled out.
And the limitations on Wolverine's HF still need to be proven.
Spiderman CANNOT definitely do the same thing, look at their first real fight, he pounded on Logans head as much as he could, it didn't do dick.
Originally posted by jinzin
Actually it took two after Logan hasd already bled out.And the limitations on Wolverine's HF still need to be proven.
Spiderman CANNOT definitely do the same thing, look at their first real fight, he pounded on Logans head as much as he could, it didn't do dick.
Ok, 2 punches, that still shows it doesn't take multiple punches from WWH to take him down.
Wolverine was put down with machine gun fire, he was also put down with a bullet to the brain on 2 separate occasions. I think Spiderman not holding back could cause more damage than a bullet to the brain after repeated shots.
Originally posted by Mindset
Ok, 2 punches, that still shows it doesn't take multiple punches from WWH to take him down.Wolverine was put down with machine gun fire, he was also put down with a bullet to the brain on 2 separate occasions. I think Spiderman not holding back could cause more damage than a bullet to the brain after repeated shots.
after already take a throat slit which drained a lot of blood. Actaully it did take a bunch of punches to put Logan down from wwh.
Machine gun firer by 5 people for an untold amount of time and he did not even resist he allowed it.
actaully the bullet to the brain again is not possiable due to skeleton structure so there goes that.
what other occassion ar eyou refferring to?
seeing as how spiderman has tried before in Spiderman vs Wolverine one shot and put every thing he had in the punches and could not get Logan to stop smiling let a lone KO him.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
after already take a throat slit which drained a lot of blood. Actaully it did take a bunch of punches to put Logan down from wwh.Machine gun firer by 5 people for an untold amount of time and he did not even resist he allowed it.
actaully the bullet to the brain again is not possiable due to skeleton structure so there goes that.
what other occassion ar eyou refferring to?
seeing as how spiderman has tried before in Spiderman vs Wolverine one shot and put every thing he had in the punches and could not get Logan to stop smiling let a lone KO him.
Too bad losing blood doesn't have anything to do with being knocked out by a punch.
And it took Hulk like 4 punches...
It may not be possible in real life, but it happened, also Deadpool just shot him and it "killed" him.
Yea, except Spiderman didn't hit him with unrestrained blows, nor was he repeatedly hitting his skull in order to seriously injure. It might have said he was going all out but he obviously wasn't, Wolverine does not have superhuman invulnerability. Hell Spiderman was said to not be holding back fighting Kingpin, but we know that wasn't the case.
Originally posted by Mindset
Too bad losing blood doesn't have anything to do with being knocked out by a punch.
Also it does when you have a healing factor.
Originally posted by Mindset
And it took Hulk like 4 punches...
Originally posted by Mindset
It may not be possible in real life, but it happened, also Deadpool just shot him and it "killed" him.
So there goes your first example.
Lol are you forgetting the fact that Logan took 3 powerful explosions, fought all across the city, got dragged by a car and got ran over, also stabbed, shot and then shot again.
So that really does not help you cases.
Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, except Spiderman didn't hit him with unrestrained blows, nor was he repeatedly hitting his skull in order to seriously injure.
oh and the page after this he says I gave it every thing I had.
Originally posted by Mindset
It might have said he was going all out but he obviously wasn't, Wolverine does not have superhuman invulnerability.
Also he has an adamatium skull
And a heal factor
So yes spiderman was going all out.
Originally posted by Mindset
Hell Spiderman was said to not be holding back fighting Kingpin, but we know that wasn't the case.
Really like when? Not that it matters since he knows he can’t kill wolverine and he knows Logan bones can’t be broken, so he has no reason not to go all out.
so you were wrong about pritty much every thing.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Two punches by the man who thing could not even hurt with a punch………..Also it does when you have a healing factor.
Actually he took 8. 7 of which was one after the other. The same guy who dropped thing in a single punch………so im not sure why that’s a bad thing.
Actually it not possible period, the writer made a mistake and is unusable as evidences. Adamatium would have prevented it, the writer did not due his home work and not only has that been tried before and fail, but also the fact there adamatium were the bullet would have needed to enter.
So there goes your first example.
Lol are you forgetting the fact that Logan took 3 powerful explosions, fought all across the city, got dragged by a car and got ran over, also stabbed, shot and then shot again.
So that really does not help you cases.
http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanpunchingwolverpc6.jpg
oh and the page after this he says I gave it every thing I had.
Actaully he has enhance durability.
Also he has an adamatium skull
And a heal factor
So yes spiderman was going all out.
Really like when? Not that it matters since he knows he can’t kill wolverine and he knows Logan bones can’t be broken, so he has no reason not to go all out.
so you were wrong about pritty much every thing.
You must be forgetting that Sentry was barely trying when he knocked Wolverine out, and all I remember is one punch. And no, losing blood does not have anything to do with getting knocked out by a punch, his healing factor has nothing to do with it...
Yea, I don't remember it taking 7 punches, but it's not like it matters, at that point Wolverine's healing factor was leagues stronger than it has ever been.
Wolverine was healed up by the time Deadpool put a bullet in his brain, and even if he wasn't it's not like it matters, it shows Wolverine's brain is no stronger than any normal persons, and definitely does not have any invulnerability.
Yea, he wasn't giving it everything he has, Wolverine has been knocked out by less than 10+ ton punches to the skull, maybe the writer didn't do his homework, or is that only applicable when it makes Wolverine look bad?
Actually durability isn't invulnerability, his brain does not have heightened durability. An admantium skull would protect from projectiles or his skull being crushed, his brain would not be any safer from blunt trauma. Spiderman does not know what will kill Wolverine, he was not going all out if there was a chance he could kill or seriously injure him. If he was going all out Wolverine would have been sent flying, the tombstone would have been broken after one punch.
Have you ever read Back in Black?
Originally posted by MindsetUmmmm no it doesn't.... Again, Wolverine bled out before Sentry even got to him, unlike Hulk, Wolverine's HF runs on nutrients that have to be replenished, the Wolverine Sentry put down was severly weaker so to speak than the one Hulk did.
Ok, 2 punches, that still shows it doesn't take multiple punches from WWH to take him down.
Originally posted by Mindset
Wolverine was put down with machine gun fire, he was also put down with a bullet to the brain on 2 separate occasions. I think Spiderman not holding back could cause more damage than a bullet to the brain after repeated shots.
After an undisclosed amount of time by five rifles. 😬
there's many a time where gunfire hasn't even effected Wolverine.
I do think a bullet to the brain should put Wolverine down for at least a while.
Then you think wrong, Wolverine's brain is clearly protected inside his skull to some extent and most likely has homer simpson syndrome to some degree. Aside from all that, SPIDERMAN ALREADY HAS TRIED to punch Logan in the skull repeatidly.. It didn't do anything but make Wolverine smile.
Originally posted by Mindset
Too bad losing blood doesn't have anything to do with being knocked out by a punch.And it took Hulk like 4 punches...
It may not be possible in real life, but it happened, also Deadpool just shot him and it "killed" him.
Yea, except Spiderman didn't hit him with unrestrained blows, nor was he repeatedly hitting his skull in order to seriously injure. It might have said he was going all out but he obviously wasn't, Wolverine does not have superhuman invulnerability. Hell Spiderman was said to not be holding back fighting Kingpin, but we know that wasn't the case.
"I'm hitting him with everything I've got"
"Any ordinary man would be wonder jello by now"
"I'm hitting him hard enough to wreck cars"
"I can't get him to stop smiling"
Spiderman's tried, he was hitting him all out, he failed get over it.
And so what if it was four punches (after WWH launched Wolverine through multiple trees btw) Wolverine took more punishment than Thing, Herc, or She Hulk did.
Originally posted by jinzin
"I'm hitting him with everything I've got"
"Any ordinary man would be wonder jello by now"
"I'm hitting him hard enough to wreck cars"
"I can't get him to stop smiling"Spiderman's tried, he was hitting him all out, he failed get over it.
And so what if it was four punches (after WWH launched Wolverine through multiple trees btw) Wolverine took more punishment than Thing, Herc, or She Hulk did.
Spiderman is using his full strength yet he doesn't even break the tombstone? Obviously what he says is different from what actually happened.
Originally posted by jinzin
Ummmm no it doesn't.... Again, Wolverine bled out before Sentry even got to him, unlike Hulk, Wolverine's HF runs on nutrients that have to be replenished, the Wolverine Sentry put down was severly weaker so to speak than the one Hulk did.After an undisclosed amount of time by five rifles. 😬
there's many a time where gunfire hasn't even effected Wolverine.
I do think a bullet to the brain should put Wolverine down for at least a while.
Then you think wrong, Wolverine's brain is clearly protected inside his skull to some extent and most likely has homer simpson syndrome to some degree. Aside from all that, SPIDERMAN ALREADY HAS TRIED to punch Logan in the skull repeatidly.. It didn't do anything but make Wolverine smile.
Wolverine had enough strength to try and stab Sentry...Wolverine's healing factor has little bearing on him being knocked out by a punch.
I didn't mention the time Wolverine was shot by the villagers, I'm talking about one bullet to the brain from Deadpool.
Yea, except there has never been anything saying Wolverine has any kind of extra protection for his brain. If Spiderman was hitting Wolverine with his full strength why did Wolverine not go flying, why was there no blood, why did the tombstone not crumble under his strength? Spiderman was not trying to seriously hurt Wolverine.
Originally posted by MindsetHe was hitting Wolverine, not the tombstone, why would it shatter when the force of his punch was being partially negated by Wolvie?...
Spiderman is using his full strength yet he doesn't even break the tombstone? Obviously what he says is different from what actually happened.
🙄 I guess you know about Spiderman's physical exertion than he does.
Originally posted by Mindset
Wolverine had enough strength to try and stab Sentry...Wolverine's healing factor has little bearing on him being knocked out by a punch.
And yes, it does actually since that's what keeps him from being KOed in the first place. The examples of Wolverine being KOed by pure brute force without extrenuating circumstances are few and far between and absolutely DWARFED by the times he hasn't been KOed by brick shots...
The one consistency with most LEGITIMATE brick KOes is that they're after his healing factors started to be taxed out.
Originally posted by MindsetWhich should put him down, but it has no bearing on this thread since Punisher can't put himself in the position that deadpool was in, seeing how DP had to sustain multiple wounds and mortal injuries to get himself there.
I didn't mention the time Wolverine was shot by the villagers, I'm talking about one bullet to the brain from Deadpool.
Originally posted by MindsetWell if you're going by strictly what's happened then you have to accept the fact that Wolverine's been punched by bricks hundreds of times, by characters who are multitudes upon multitudes stronger than Spiderman without being knocked out, or suffering brain damage, the one time he has been a receipient of BD was against WWH who hit him multiple times.. WWH who's one punched could do more damage than Spiderman could do with a barrage of punches over a day, IF his fists could last that long.
Yea, except there has never been anything saying Wolverine has any kind of extra protection for his brain. If Spiderman was hitting Wolverine with his full strength why did Wolverine not go flying, why was there no blood, why did the tombstone not crumble under his strength? Spiderman was not trying to seriously hurt Wolverine.
If you're going to look at strictly what has happened, Spiderman has already attacked Wolverine full out and admitted to such several times while doing it, "everything I got" it's irrefutable.. and.. HE FAILED.
Well aside from the fact that the tombstone eventually did crumble, and that Wolverine was knocked down... aside from the fact that Wolverine being embedded in the ground kinda dictated that his body wasn't going to fly around, or the fact that Spiderman punching Wolverine directly into his adamantium skull shouldn't really draw blood in the first place, or that Spiderman flat out STATED he was hitting Wolverine all out....
Please, that's the worst cop out argument in the world, I suppose when Hulk hits the thing or atomic man or any number of villians and they don't go flying away, he's holding back for their safety in spite of "Hulk Smash"!
just like you suppose Peter was holding back for Wolverine's safety in spite of "I've given him everything I've got, now I know there's only one way to stop him"..... So Spiderman wasn't trying to hurt him even though he was forced into a strategy that called for killing him by the end of the fight?.... 🙄
Mindset, usually you're a very reasonable person, and I respect more than most that I argue with nowdays, but right now, you're either being ignorant or stubburn, it's already been proven without a doubt that Spiderman can't do dick to Wolverine with punches to head much less give him brain damage.... So either you use and accept feats or you cannot, you can use and accept speculation or you cannot, either way your assumption that Wolverine can get BD from Spidey punches isn't an argument that's going to fly.
Originally posted by jinzin
He was hitting Wolverine, not the tombstone, why would it shatter when the force of his punch was being partially negated by Wolvie?...🙄 I guess you know about Spiderman's physical exertion than he does.
Spiderman didn't write the story, he is a fictional character, a writer wrote it, writers aren't faultless.
Him hitting Wolverine's skull against the tombstone would easily break it if he is using his full strength. So now adamantium absorbs enough kinetic energy that his skull hitting the tombstone a 10+ tons of force would not break it?
Originally posted by Mindset
Spiderman didn't write the story, he is a fictional character, a writer wrote it, writers aren't faultless.Him hitting Wolverine's skull against the tombstone would easily break it if he is using his full strength. So now adamantium absorbs enough kinetic energy that his skull hitting the tombstone a 10+ tons of force would not break it?
So if a writer writes that Spiderman wasn't holding back against Wolverine, but Wolverine's DRAWN as not being bounced all over the place, bleeding like crazy, and crashing through tombstones, it's strictly the writers FAULT because we all know how art takes precedence over the storytelling right?
Cop-out.
If Wolverine was sitting up into it? I dunno. I'm just trying to figure out a way to explain your cop-out rather than just telling you you're coping out and leaving it at that.
