cap vs wolverine vs spider man

Started by Mindset28 pages

Originally posted by jinzin
And you think that has what to do with his healing factor?

And yes, it does actually since that's what keeps him from being KOed in the first place. The examples of Wolverine being KOed by pure brute force without extrenuating circumstances are few and far between and absolutely DWARFED by the times he hasn't been KOed by brick shots...

The one consistency with most LEGITIMATE brick KOes is that they're after his healing factors started to be taxed out.

Which should put him down, but it has no bearing on this thread since Punisher can't put himself in the position that deadpool was in, seeing how DP had to sustain multiple wounds and mortal injuries to get himself there.

Well if you're going by strictly what's happened then you have to accept the fact that Wolverine's been punched by bricks hundreds of times, by characters who are multitudes upon multitudes stronger than Spiderman without being knocked out, or suffering brain damage, the one time he has been a receipient of BD was against WWH who hit him multiple times.. WWH who's one punched could do more damage than Spiderman could do with a barrage of punches over a day, IF his fists could last that long.

If you're going to look at strictly what has happened, Spiderman has already attacked Wolverine full out and admitted to such several times while doing it, "everything I got" it's irrefutable.. and.. HE FAILED.

Well aside from the fact that the tombstone eventually did crumble, and that Wolverine was knocked down... aside from the fact that Wolverine being embedded in the ground kinda dictated that his body wasn't going to fly around, or the fact that Spiderman punching Wolverine directly into his adamantium skull shouldn't really draw blood in the first place, or that Spiderman flat out STATED he was hitting Wolverine all out....
Please, that's the worst cop out argument in the world, I suppose when Hulk hits the thing or atomic man or any number of villians and they don't go flying away, he's holding back for their safety in spite of "Hulk Smash"!

just like you suppose Peter was holding back for Wolverine's safety in spite of "I've given him everything I've got, now I know there's only one way to stop him"..... So Spiderman wasn't trying to hurt him even though he was forced into a strategy that called for killing him by the end of the fight?.... 🙄

Mindset, usually you're a very reasonable person, and I respect more than most that I argue with nowdays, but right now, you're either being ignorant or stubburn, it's already been proven without a doubt that Spiderman can't do dick to Wolverine with punches to head much less give him brain damage.... So either you use and accept feats or you cannot, you can use and accept speculation or you cannot, either way your assumption that Wolverine can get BD from Spidey punches isn't an argument that's going to fly.

Wolverine was barely hurt when he attacked Sentry, he had already healed from the damage, I posted the scans, and yet Sentry knocked him out in one hit.

The times Wolverine were hit I don't remember him being unable to move and getting repeatedly hit in the head, the only time was with WWH.

If Spiderman was intending to kill Wolverine he would have suffocated him, Spiderman is not one to kill, especially another hero. Spiderman was not trying to kill Wolverine.

That was one instance of Spiderman hitting Wolverine were he was supposedly not holding back against Wolverine, yet there was not blood, didn't break the tombstone, which should have broken after one punch and definitely after his barrage of punches. Spiderman punching Wolverine would be like him punching a metal ball against concrete, Spiderman using his full strength would easily punch it through.

Originally posted by jinzin
So if a writer writes that Spiderman wasn't holding back against Wolverine, but Wolverine's DRAWN as not being bounced all over the place, bleeding like crazy, and crashing through tombstones, it's strictly the writers FAULT because we all know how art takes precedence over the storytelling right?

Cop-out.

If Wolverine was sitting up into it? I dunno. I'm just trying to figure out a way to explain your cop-out rather than just telling you you're coping out and leaving it at that.

If a writer writes Spiderman wasn't holding back while punching and wooden door and he couldn't break it down would you accept it?

I'll admit that Spiderman will not cause Wolverine massive brain damage if you admit that that was not a good display of a non-restrained Spiderman, since we have seen him do stronger attacks.

Originally posted by Mindset
Wolverine was barely hurt when he attacked Sentry, he had already healed from the damage, I posted the scans, and yet Sentry knocked him out in one hit.
You have no clue how Wolverine's healing factor works if you think Wolverine was fine by the time Sentry showed up. Read my last posts concerning the matter he was far from 100%

Originally posted by Mindset
The times Wolverine were hit I don't remember him being unable to move and getting repeatedly hit in the head, the only time was with WWH.
So, he's been hit repeatidly in fights with bricks, again people who can produce more damage in one Punch than Spiderman with dozens.

Originally posted by Mindset
If Spiderman was intending to kill Wolverine he would have suffocated him, Spiderman is not one to kill, especially another hero. Spiderman was not trying to kill Wolverine.

That's a pretty big ben of the dount you're given Spiderman, he couldn't suffocate Wolverine, why? because webbing doesn't negate momentum as Wolverine showed in marvel knights 13. And, as Spiderman said "I can't let up for one second, or he'll kill me."

And YES, YES he was.

Originally posted by Mindset
That was one instance of Spiderman hitting Wolverine were he was supposedly not holding back against Wolverine, yet there was not blood, didn't break the tombstone, which should have broken after one punch and definitely after his barrage of punches. Spiderman punching Wolverine would be like him punching a metal ball against concrete, Spiderman using his full strength would easily punch it through.

ugghhh COP ... OUT..

if they conflict... STORY>>>> Artist's interpretation.

Originally posted by Mindset
If a writer writes Spiderman wasn't holding back while punching and wooden door and he couldn't break it down would you accept it?
I would accept the story telling not the artists interpretation.

Originally posted by Mindset
I'll admit that Spiderman will not cause Wolverine massive brain damage if you admit that that was not a good display of a non-restrained Spiderman, since we have seen him do stronger attacks.
he won't cause him ANY brain damage, it wasn't a good PICTORAL display of such but the storytelling elements are irrefutable, he WAS attacking all out, he WAS set on killing Wolverine by the end of the fight, those are underlining certanties that the plot even details out.

The thing is, if Spiderman can hit Logan in the face then he certainly can web him in the face. Logan would be both blind and suffocating and thus need to cut the web off his face. Now while Logan tries to cut the web off his face, Spidey could just web him the same way he did that time when he webbed Logan in an embarrassing fashion. After that, Spidey webs his face again and waits for him to suffocate.

Originally posted by h1a8
The thing is, if Spiderman can hit Logan in the face then he certainly can web him in the face. Logan would be both blind and suffocating and thus need to cut the web off his face. Now while Logan tries to cut the web off his face, Spidey could just web him the same way he did that time when he webbed Logan in an embarrassing fashion. After that, Spidey webs his face again and waits for him to suffocate.

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I think Spiderman punches faster than his webbing sprays, and the only times Spiderman has effectively hit Wolverine in the face was when he was literally let Spiderman do it.
Or... IF Spiderman was lucky enough to web Logan in the face, Logan could just stab him in the gut. and then Worry about the webbing...

and again, "that time" was a non fight in which Logan didn't have his claws out, IN FIGHTS Spiderman and Venom between them have tried to web Wolverine up 5 times, and failed.

Anyways, we've already been down this road h so continuing this debate with you even more will just have us running in circles again.

Originally posted by jinzin
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I think Spiderman punches faster than his webbing sprays, and the only times Spiderman has effectively hit Wolverine in the face was when he was literally let Spiderman do it.
Or... IF Spiderman was lucky enough to web Logan in the face, Logan could just stab him in the gut. and then Worry about the webbing...

and again, "that time" was a non fight in which Logan didn't have his claws out, IN FIGHTS Spiderman and Venom between them have tried to web Wolverine up 5 times, and failed.

Anyways, we've already been down this road h so continuing this debate with you even more will just have us running in circles again.

I'm trying to hit it at a slightly different angle.
I'm saying that a hit to the face can lead to a webbed face due to the combo principle. It goes something like "bam-squirt!". After that, Spidey can web Logan like the time when it was a non-fight 😄

Originally posted by Mindset
You must be forgetting that Sentry was barely trying when he knocked Wolverine out, and all I remember is one punch.

He was hit twices. Also sentry states “I know I can’t kill you” so the quite the opposite of not trying if anything he would imply he can hit him full on out.

Originally posted by Mindset
And no, losing blood does not have anything to do with getting knocked out by a punch, his healing factor has nothing to do with it...

Actaully it does………..his healing factor heals the damage to his body after ever hit, making it dam hard to knock him out………..which is a pretty common fact………

Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, I don't remember it taking 7 punches, but it's not like it matters, at that point Wolverine's healing factor was leagues stronger than it has ever been.

Actually it was like that for a few years.

Originally posted by Mindset
Wolverine was healed up by the time Deadpool put a bullet in his brain, and even if he wasn't it's not like it matters, it shows Wolverine's brain is no stronger than any normal persons, and definitely does not have any invulnerability.

Your not very clear on wolverines abilities are you? Logan healing factor is not limitless. It can and does slow down. So all that damage Logan received prior to the final kill shot plays a huge factor into the reasons it was able to take wolverine out.

Like I said before that a bad example to uses.

Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, he wasn't giving it everything he has,

Yea right, ecpt for the fact were you know spiderman states “I am giving it EVERTHING I GOT.

Originally posted by Mindset
Wolverine has been knocked out by less than 10+ ton punches to the skull,

Actaully the vast majority of Logan showings have him taking worse’s then 10 ton punches to the head and keep on going.

Originally posted by Mindset
maybe the writer didn't do his homework, [/QUOT Yea you could attempt that argument, except for the fact spidermans tried and another time and failed as well, as has far stronger individuals.

[QUOTE=10350315]Originally posted by Mindset
or is that only applicable when it makes Wolverine look bad?

Lol. Not sure how that feat makes him look bad.

It has nothing to do with how it looks. What it has to do with is the fact is it impossiable. You can not shoot a bullet that sizes and have it enter the brain. His adamatium skull would stop it.

So pleases I love to here how it enter his brain other then simply bad writing.

Originally posted by Mindset
Actually durability isn't invulnerability, his brain does not have heightened durability. An admantium skull would protect from projectiles or his skull being crushed, his brain would not be any safer from blunt trauma.Spiderman does not know what will kill Wolverine, he was not going all out if there was a chance he could kill or seriously injure him. If he was going all out Wolverine would have been sent flying, the tombstone would have been broken after one punch.

Lol

Actaully he does know his punches can not, he also stated he was going all out and yet you deny it how sad.

Yea spiderman would never wish to harm wolverine………… just through him out of avenger tower from one of the top floors………..but yea spiderman really would never try and hurt wolverine………….come on are you kidding me.

Also they ahd both met and fought along side each prior to the battle. Spiderman dam well knew he could not kill him with a punch. Hell he even states he going all out. Not to mention have you ever even read the issue? Becuases spiderman realizes he can’t win with the tactic he is using and decides the only way is to break his neck…………

So pleases your ridiculous arguments need to stop. It was shown and stated on panel. Now your just being foolish.

Originally posted by Mindset
Have you ever read Back in Black?

Yes I own every spiderman comic for the last several years, then many many many many others.

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm trying to hit it at a slightly different angle.
I'm saying that a hit to the face can lead to a webbed face due to the combo principle. It goes something like "bam-squirt!". After that, Spidey can web Logan like the time when it was a non-fight 😄

Again, benefit of the doubt how about bam-squirt stab. While he's busy focused on Wolverine's face he's gonna get a gut full o' claw.

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm trying to hit it at a slightly different angle.
I'm saying that a hit to the face can lead to a webbed face due to the combo principle. It goes something like "bam-squirt!". After that, Spidey can web Logan like the time when it was a non-fight 😄
wow good job and wat about cap

Woah.

For a judge sock, 'novablast' lasted a long time.

Originally posted by Novablast13
wow good job and wat about cap

cap is easier since he can't cut himself from the web. So Spidey doesn'
t need to hit him first. A couple of very wide webs shot at Cap should do the trick.

I think Spider-Man will win but he has to play it smart.

spiderman wins

Any of these guys have a chance at winning. Spider-Man has the best chance in a city. Wolverine has the best chance in an open area where Spider-Man has nothing to swing on and limits Cap's shield richocheting abilities. Cap has the lowest chance of survival but can still take a win or two with experience and skill.

Wolverine

cap goes down quick and hard by either contestant. spidey KOs wolvie. the end

Originally posted by namorsubby
cap goes down quick and hard by either contestant. spidey KOs wolvie. the end
You are quite possibly the dumbest man to have ever posted here.

Congrats! now go commit Hara Kiri and make the world a better place