Don't worry about the Afterlife

Originally posted by Alliance
You're saying that because a concept exists...that is good justification that the concept is factual?

No. I am stating that the assumption that a concept is false without evidence is not a wise choice. The concept is possible, just not well supported, and according to some may be very low in probability. Assuming that things are not possible without evidence for such is weak, and is a poor basis for advancement.

I am stating that because the concept exists, its existence does support the possibility that it is factual. This is not the same as stating that the concept is factual.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
And this is where your problem lies.

Your deffinition of hell is very limited to what Abrahamic religions say. Thus, your claim that that type of hell doesn't exist is another matter. Perhaps still far fetched, since you are assuming what is said is literal.

furthermore, saying that 'Christians see it as literal' is untrue, since not all denominations of Chrstianity see hell as literal - thus overstereotype.

But the argument that 'a hell' doesn't exist, cannot apply to what you are saying. Your deffinition of hell, for one does not match with others, and thus claiming 'hell' doesn't exist is far fetched.

In most Christian religions, hell is not being in the presence of God. Given this, our existence is a form of hell. If God does not exist then hell is existence by this definition. 😉 By my definition, Alliance would have to believe in hell.

I believe damnation and hell are two separate concepts. Damnation is the state where one does not progress, a state where individual evolution stops. Given this man is in hell, but he is not damned.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
And this is where your problem lies.

Your deffinition of hell is very limited to what Abrahamic religions say. Thus, your claim that that type of hell doesn't exist is another matter. Perhaps still far fetched, since you are assuming what is said is literal.

furthermore, saying that 'Christians see it as literal' is untrue, since not all denominations of Chrstianity see hell as literal - thus overstereotype.

But the argument that 'a hell' doesn't exist, cannot apply to what you are saying. Your deffinition of hell, for one does not match with others, and thus claiming 'hell' doesn't exist is far fetched.

My vision of hell is not as limited as you think it is.

Hell would be a place or a state of pain and suffering. I dont care whether its Naraka, Di Yu, Tartarus, Sheol....whatever.

I think it is fairly obvious that a situation is what you make of it...if you imagine hell to be so...you experience it...but that does not make it real or factual...its is self imposed.

If you take a narrominded literal approach...Hell (a place) does not exist...it is fictional.

Originally posted by Regret
[B] If God does not exist then hell is existence by this definition. 😉 By my definition, Alliance would have to believe in hell.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I don't remember saying that.

Besides, that is a silly concept. In order to truly feel bad, you need to feel good at times.

Feeling good at times is why the bad times feel worse then they truly are.

You said that hell is not having your mind filled with problems... isn't your mind always filled with dilemma's of some kind... don't you always have problem's and choices in your life... and since that is hell aren't we always in hell...

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Only if you give people the power too. The power is yours, and you can give it away, but it is still yours.

If you're a child and your mother or father severely abuses you, you have no power to escape that kind of Hell. Sorry....optimism is nice, but sometimes realism has to kick in 😉

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Your post is about as credible as that of anyone who believes in hell.

You have no credible argument or 'evidence' to convince me that hell doesn't exist - just the same as the anyone else who believes that it exists.

Having an ''I know all there is to know about devine'' is very Abrahaimic religious attitude.

Lil Bitchiness, keep in mind that I am referring to the very much Abrahaimic version of Hell...

I do beleive in Hell...but not that kind. I beleive in Hell as a mental or emotional state of mind, the way Shaky does....

However in terms of literal fire and brimstone Hell ? A bunch of bullshit...sorry lil...

There is more evidense to back up that Hell is a fairy tale that was repeated over and over again throughout history, then there is to prove that the mythological version of hell actually exists.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Just because your idea of hell is limited to what Bible has to say, doesn't mean your attitude can apply to me.

I am not Christian and my beliefs have nothing to do with Christian doctrine - my idea of hell is metaphorical.

For you to claim it exist is ignorant, and arrogant, because a) you dont know what Hell is, and b) all you know is based what Christians told you.

Lil again....that's just my point.

I am talking about "Christian Hell"....and I am arguing that it doesn't exist.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
If there is a physical hell, we are in it right now, seeing how the life on this earth is suffering.

Second, hell as a metaphorical idea, is the mind not being at ease, pure or free from worries.
Being constantly tormented with certain ideas or problems would constitute my idea of hell.

I beleive in that Hell too...

But I disbelieve in "Christian Hell"....do you ?

Originally posted by BackFire
Hell is a concept created to scare people into believing in a certain religion.

If hell exists, and it's as bad as it's said to be, do you think that God would send someone there just for not believing in a specific religion? No matter how good a life the person lived? If God exists, I think he's a bit more reasonable than that.

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