Cyclops vs. Nightwing

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
That's exactly what I'm saying...the forum fights are set up so there is no bias on either side...having Nightwing hide...would give him an unfair advantage just like having Nightwing tied to a pole would give Cyke an unfair advantage....

So given the powersets and given that they are both fighting on a neutral ground...Cyke wins...

In Whittdawg's scenario Scott has home ground advantage..too which doesn't mean much..unless the MU somehow messes with NW's abilities....

yes but Nightwing would never fight like that, he would fight like he was trained to fight.

Unrealistic fights mean nothing. In every fight one person will always have an advantage ethier by a power they posses or a way they were trained to fight.

By your reasoning I could say Cyclops optic blasts are an unfair advantage.

IF they both fought the way they would in the comics, Nightwing would attack him from behind without making a sound and take him out.

Originally posted by David_Richards
yes but Nightwing would never fight like that, he would fight like he was trained to fight.

Unrealistic fights mean nothing. In every fight one person will always have an advantage ethier by a power they posses or a way they were trained to fight.

By your reasoning I could say Cyclops optic blasts are an unfair advantage.

IF they both fought the way they would in the comics, Nightwing would attack him from behind without making a sound and take him out.

Nope...because Cyclops Optic Blasts are part of his powerset...

You have two individuals fighting each other with only their powersets on a neutral ground...they both know they're fighting each other...no outside interference which includes objects etc...

BTW As for the comic thing...it depends on the writer...it always does...if you gave it to a bad writer...then Jubilee would take down Nightwing H2H..etc

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Nope...because Cyclops Optic Blasts are part of his powerset...

You have two individuals fighting each other with only their powersets on a neutral ground...

BTW As for the comic thing...it depends on the writer...it always does...if you gave it to a bad writer...then Jubilee would take down Nightwing H2H..etc

And fighting like a ninja is part of Nightwings powerset. He would learn all he can about Cyclops before hand and fight like he was trained to. By determining his opponents weakness and explioting them to his advantage. And in this case it would mean sneaking up from behind and taking Cyclops out without making a sound. Anything else is an unrealistic fight and meaningless

Originally posted by David_Richards
And fighting like a ninja is part of Nightwings powerset. He would learn all he can about Cyclops before hand and fight like he was trained to. By determining his opponents weakness and explioting them to his advantage. And in this case it would mean sneaking up from behind and taking Cyclops out without making a sound. Anything else is an unrealistic fight and meaningless

That would count as prep which KMC forums forbids unless it is stated by the thread starter...

I never said the rules were perfect...certain abilities i.e. Dream Reality Warping and Precognition are inhibited by the rules...

Originally posted by David_Richards
And fighting like a ninja is part of Nightwings powerset. He would learn all he can about Cyclops before hand and fight like he was trained to. By determining his opponents weakness and explioting them to his advantage. And in this case it would mean sneaking up from behind and taking Cyclops out without making a sound. Anything else is an unrealistic fight and meaningless

Arguing about a fight in a comic book setting is worthless since anything can happen. Cyclops could just ask Emma to locate Nightwing and Cyclops would find him and blast him. Point being anything can happen in a comic book setting.

Originally posted by thedude1948
Arguing about a fight in a comic book setting is worthless since anything can happen. Cyclops could just ask Emma to locate Nightwing and Cyclops would find him and blast him. Point being anything can happen in a comic book setting.

the fight is just between Cyclops and Nightwing emmas not in this.

And yes the rules are a problem thats why if youve read my other posts I dont follow them as religously as some do.

Nightwing would fight like he was trained to fight, he would anaylze his opponents weakness and attack in a manner that would help him the most. He would NEVER just stand face to face and fight Cyclops knowing what he can do. Therefore the fight is unrealistic and the results are meaningless.

You want a senario which favors Cyclops the most cause you like him better. Grow up. God, I thought this was a debate thread, but its just a place for whiners to work out their anger at certian characters.

Originally posted by David_Richards
the fight is just between Cyclops and Nightwing emmas not in this.

And yes the rules are a problem thats why if youve read my other posts I dont follow them as religously as some do.

Nightwing would fight like he was trained to fight, he would anaylze his opponents weakness and attack in a manner that would help him the most. He would NEVER just stand face to face and fight Cyclops knowing what he can do. Therefore the fight is unrealistic and the results are meaningless.

You want a senario which favors Cyclops the most cause you like him better. Grow up. God, I thought this was a debate thread, but its just a place for whiners to work out their anger at certian characters.

lol 😆 i'm the one whining? still doesnt matter Cyclops wins, Jimmy Jizzle too.

Originally posted by David_Richards
the fight is just between Cyclops and Nightwing emmas not in this.

And yes the rules are a problem thats why if youve read my other posts I dont follow them as religously as some do.

Nightwing would fight like he was trained to fight, he would anaylze his opponents weakness and attack in a manner that would help him the most. He would NEVER just stand face to face and fight Cyclops knowing what he can do. Therefore the fight is unrealistic and the results are meaningless.

You want a senario which favors Cyclops the most cause you like him better. Grow up. God, I thought this was a debate thread, but its just a place for whiners to work out their anger at certian characters.

Well if you don't follow the rules then what's the point in debating? You just suggested a fight which works in Nightwings favour..how is that any different from tying Nightwing to a pole and have Cyke shoot him...the answer is it's not...

If you don't like the rules and you hate all of us because we follow them...and I'm trying to say this in the most polite manner I can think of..then why not leave...? 😕

because i choose to stay and do what i wish,

and as I already said its impossible to fight where no one has an advantage. so the only awsner is to have them fight the way they would in the comics.

He would learn all he can about Cyclops before hand and fight like he was trained to. By determining his opponents weakness and explioting them to his advantage. And in this case it would mean sneaking up from behind and taking Cyclops out without making a sound. Anything else is an unrealistic fight and meaningless

Originally posted by David_Richards
because i choose to stay and do what i wish,

and as I already said its impossible to fight where no one has an advantage. so the only awsner is to have them fight the way they would in the comics.

He would learn all he can about Cyclops before hand and fight like he was trained to. By determining his opponents weakness and explioting them to his advantage. And in this case it would mean sneaking up from behind and taking Cyclops out without making a sound. Anything else is an unrealistic fight and meaningless

Then stay...all I'm saying is don't complain...because like you said you chose to stay..

No one is suppose to have an enviromental advantage...that's the point....

And again Comic book battle goes either way depending on the writer...i.e Nightwing finds out everything about Cyclops but slips on the wet floor, falls and breaks his neck...and dies...

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Then stay...all I'm saying is don't complain...because like you said you chose to stay..

No one is suppose to have an enviromental advantage...that's the point....

And again Comic book battle goes either way depending on the writer...i.e Nightwing finds out everything about Cyclops but slips on the wet floor, falls and breaks his neck...and dies...

I choose to stay and do things the way they should be if nessecary rules be damned.

Well its not a fair fight unless Nightwing has an enviromental advantage becuase thats the only way he would fight. As I said He would NEVER EVER stand face to face and fight cyclops knowing what he could do
He would learn all he can about Cyclops before hand and fight like he was trained to. By determining his opponents weakness and explioting them to his advantage. And in this case it would mean sneaking up from behind and taking Cyclops out without making a sound. Anything else is an unrealistic fight and meaningless

Nightwing is a ninja and would fight like one, your way takes that away.

In a REALISTIC fight Nightwing wins.

Originally posted by David_Richards
I choose to stay and do things the way they should be if nessecary rules be damned.

Well its not a fair fight unless Nightwing has an enviromental advantage becuase thats the only way he would fight. As I said He would NEVER EVER stand face to face and fight cyclops knowing what he could do
He would learn all he can about Cyclops before hand and fight like he was trained to. By determining his opponents weakness and explioting them to his advantage. And in this case it would mean sneaking up from behind and taking Cyclops out without making a sound. Anything else is an unrealistic fight and meaningless

Nightwing is a ninja and would fight like one, your way takes that away.

In a REALISTIC fight Nightwing wins.

The comedy ensues, if you don't like the arena in which Nightwing was placed then shut it, seriously. Cyclops blasts Nightwing to dust.

Originally posted by David_Richards
Well its not a fair fight unless Nightwing has an enviromental advantage.

I agree with this much....and this is exactly the reason why I called it a spite thread in the beginning...seems like we went around in a circle...

Originally posted by Soleran
The comedy ensues, if you don't like the arena in which Nightwing was placed then shut it, seriously. Cyclops blasts Nightwing to dust.

Originally posted by Soleran
The comedy ensues, if you don't like the arena in which Nightwing was placed then shut it, seriously. Cyclops blasts Nightwing to dust.

Originally posted by King KAM
cyclops wouldnt kill another super-hero.....

Silly me, he just knocks him out then. Cyclops 9/10

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Pretty much. He can flip a coin into the air, shoot out the centre as it's spinning and catch it again, ricochet a single beam to disarm a roomful of people...

And the idiot speaks again. His blasts wouldn't ricochet, they would just blow through whatever they hit.

LOL let me clear this up for you, No I will not "shut it" and no I will not leave.

I will contiue to debate this in a realistc manner.

"As I said He would NEVER EVER stand face to face and fight cyclops knowing what he could do
He would learn all he can about Cyclops before hand and fight like he was trained to. By determining his opponents weakness and explioting them to his advantage. And in this case it would mean sneaking up from behind and taking Cyclops out without making a sound. Anything else is an unrealistic fight and meaningless

Nightwing is a ninja and would fight like one, your way takes that away.

In a REALISTIC fight Nightwing wins."

Originally posted by Soleran
Silly me, he just knocks him out then. Cyclops 9/10

Originally posted by David_Richards
And the idiot speaks again. His blasts wouldn't ricochet, they would just blow through whatever they hit.

Nightwing cant sneak up on him, he would see him in the reflection of his shades.