Cartoon Superman vs. Cartoon JLA

Originally posted by badabing
Flash gave Brainiac/Luthor a good beating and the merged villain was giving all of the JLA a huge problem. Mongul and Darkseid were giving Superman enough to keep him at bay for a while. WW, GL, MM and Flash are powerful enough ftw. Batman has Kryptonite also. He took it out of the air when John grabbed it with his ring. I have nothing for Hawkgirl.

Quit it with that damn smiley.

Superman CONSISTENTLY beat the characters that were destroying the rest of the team. 'Nuff said.

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Originally posted by batdude123
If Superman is flying at the time, there would be pretty much nothing for the Flash to do. He's never demonstrated flying capabilities (although he SHOULD be able to). WW, Hawkgirl, and Bats would get taken down pretty easily. From there, it'd be MM and GL against Superman with Flash left grounded. John is a tool, who was beaten by the commander of the Thanagarian army. Superman could handle him. J'onn would be a major problem. Although, his durability was kind of downplayed in the series. One punch could potentially be very hazardous to him. He was KTFO by one of Darkseids Omega Beams. Superman took them without much trouble. J'onn eventually would be taken out. However, his intangibility trick would prove to be beneficial.

You also have to remember the fact that Superman has beaten so many people who gave the rest of the team plenty of trouble. AMAZO (who had his own, WW's, Flash's, GL's, and Hawkgirl's powers), Doomsday, Lobo, Darkseid, Captain Atom, Billy, etc. etc. Superman has his chances here. There's no question about that.

Superman Bid NOT beat Amazo, Superman comes flying from behind and put something over his eyes bu suprise then knocks him around, but when he take sit off and dodged supes charging into him with flight he just stepped to the side(using flash speed) and supes flys into a building. Supes Got chumped into a wall with Hawk girls mace that the andriod wa sbashing him with, it took Batman with Kryptonite to stop the andriod the first time.

You make it sound like Superman beat anyone you listed with ease when infact he was half dead 90% of the time. Like that other guy said when Lex/brainiac was fused took out the whole jlu then Flash beat the trash out of the guy so your point ?

Originally posted by batdude123
Pretty much dead? Not really. Especially the one where Batman boom tubed him out of the Brainiac asteroid, he was beating him. And of course the last episode which had him making a fool of Darkseid. And yes, he treated Billy like a little child. Superman simply wanted to get to the bomb, and Batson was trying to stop Superman and was pretty much going all out. Superman had Cpt. Marvel on the ground, and then he snuck up and grabbed Supes from behind. Then yelled SHAZAM a couple of times but Superman used it against him. Atom was going all out and Superman simply wanted to keep him down without causing too much trouble.

And you don't even think Superman could get 1 out of 10? 🤨

Originally posted by batdude123
Superman CONSISTENTLY beat the characters that were destroying the rest of the team. 'Nuff said.

Originally posted by batdude123

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Originally posted by Ricodrayz
90% of the team could fly and knock Superman to the ground then flash picks him apart. Yeah, Flash never fought someone that flew before 😕 Flash could create tornados and also run up buildings if any are in the area, he could boost him self up by spinning his hands torwards the floor, and I am sure he will get murdered in the sky by the others hitting him down.

Superman Bid NOT beat Amazo, Superman comes flying from behind and put something over his eyes bu suprise then knocks him around, but when he take sit off and dodged supes charging into him with flight he just stepped to the side(using flash speed) and supes flys into a building. Supes Got chumped into a wall with Hawk girls mace that the andriod wa sbashing him with, it took Batman with Kryptonite to stop the andriod the first time.

You make it sound like Superman beat anyone you listed with ease when infact he was half dead 90% of the time. Like that other guy said when Lex/brainiac was fused took out the whole jlu then Flash beat the trash out of the guy so your point ?

EVERYTHING you've listed in the first paragraph, Superman has shown at one point or another. Once he's in the air, he's on uncharted territory, and would get pimpsmacked down. One good solid punch from Superman would KILL Flash.

Second paragraph: My point of that was not to say that he was beating AMAZO. He was doing the best of all of them, even though it had HIS OWN, WW's, Flash's, GL's, and Hawkgirls powers. The fight pretty much had Superman beating him. If you remember, Superman flew into him a bunch and gave him some pretty good punches. The team was basically f*cked if he didn't show up. Now, once AMAZO took of the blind fold and copied Superman's powers, the fight was pretty much back and forth. Superman DID get the better of him even with his own powers and the rest of the team's. AMAZO and Superman fought pretty much evenly, then Superman punched him through a wall on the other side of the street, and THAT'S when Batman popped out the k-nite. Simply because Batman used the kryptonite doesn't take anything away from Superman. He was winning the fight before and AFTER he gained his powers.

Half dead 90% of the time? 😕 After all the fights I mentioned, Superman has fine and dandy right after. I don't know where you came up with all of that. The only time he was "half dead" was when Darkseid used the nerve manipulator after getting pounded like a little girl. Oh, and Superman has made Flash look bad before. Don't think that Flash going out is going to help him. When Superman is in the air, Flash couldn't really do anything. And if he does use the speed force like he did against Lex, he would get dragged into the speed force. It took EVERYBODY else to pull him out of it. If it wasn't for all of them, he would've been stuck there forever. Flash in the speed force only makes it easier for Superman, especially when he couldn't even get to Superman in the first place. 👆

Originally posted by Ricodrayz
How about the times Superman beat supes. In the original series when Superman first met darkseid made him kneel by just using heat vission. Then the second time he tied supes up on a giant moving thing like a caged chimp after heat vissioning him to death at the start.(when he killed dan turpin). Then that Supes vs Darksied again was pretty much even. Now the last fight Supes was getting his ass kicked the majority until supe sunleashed, but Darksied just got hurt and got right back up chumping supes with his agony w/e the heck he called it, had supes crying on the floor...

Yeah, and I thought you said keep it to only JL and JLU episodes. 🙄

The fight where they were on Brainiac's asteroid had Superman beating him in the end. Darkseid was hurt on the ground with all the rocks on him almost bordering the line of consciousness and unconciousness. And Batman boomtubed him away when Superman was coming after Darkseid on the ground. When they showed a close up of Darkseid's face afterward, it had him bloodied up pretty badly.

And yeah, so what if Superman was beaten before he cut loose? 🤨 Darkseid was AMPED with a tech suit making him even more powerful than before. Then, when Superman went out, Darkseid was looking like a chump. And Darkseid using the agony thing was cheap, and you know it. He couldn't beat him by any other means. Darkseid was more powerful there than he ever was because of the suit. 😉

Again, I'm not saying Superman would take the majority. However, he definitely has his chances here.

Originally posted by batdude123
Again, I'm not saying Superman would take the majority. However, he definitely has his chances here.

Originally posted by badabing
No. The other members also have high showings, albeit not as many as Superman. I've watched the show and there is nothing that persuades me Superman beats the other six convincingly. I'm fine with your opinion but I don't agree.

I'm not even saying that Superman would take the majority. I'm simply saying that he has his chances at winning the fight. Even you have to admit that.

Originally posted by batdude123
Again, I'm not saying Superman would take the majority. However, he definitely has his chances here.

Originally posted by badabing
I agree with this.

Originally posted by batdude123
I'm not even saying that Superman would take the majority. I'm simply saying that he has his chances at winning the fight. Even you have to admit that.

Originally posted by badabing
I already agreed with you bro. 😎 I admit that Superman has his chances. 🙂

You're hilarious and you make me giggle.... 😐

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Originally posted by batdude123
You're hilarious and you make me giggle.... 😐

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Huh? eer

lol, i haven't watched jla in a while, but i was watching the marathon for superman on boomerang the other day...

i think superman would have some serious trouble if they all ganged up on him, but individually, he would own them, except for maybe MM who is pretty badass.

Originally posted by badabing
Huh? eer

I'm losin' it. 🙁

Originally posted by HisMajestyAC43
lol, i haven't watched jla in a while, but i was watching the marathon for superman on boomerang the other day...

i think superman would have some serious trouble if they all ganged up on him, but individually, he would own them, except for maybe MM who is pretty badass.

Ah, so refreshing to hear OTHER people's opinions. 😄

lol. they just said it first... lol thats all.

Originally posted by batdude123
I'm losin' it. 🙁

I don't think John would be a serious problem. He's not very creative on the shows. All he does is make shields and shoot blasts. He got beat by the leader of the Thanagarian army. Hawkgirl will get speedblitzed and killed in the process. Wonder Woman is in the league of Superman in strength but durability is where she falls in the show. Her punches affected Mongul and was pushing him back but it seemed she was really weak against him. Her lasso can be used also. Flash can avoid Superman all day. He doesn't have to harm Clark physically. He just has to distract him. Batman is not useless here as some of you think. He will be the leader of the team since superman will not be on thier side. Batman may have kryptonie with him; he may not but Batman is never useless in a fight. Martian Manhunter is definately the wildcard here and the most dangerous opponet. If the team is going all out and not trying to reason or hold back things could get real ugly. I believe Superman is always holdinhg back, however MM also is holding back in the show IMO. He rarely uses his strength or physical abilities. He could gro to larger size than Superman. He could also shapeshift into Lois Lane and try to trick Superman then mopve in quickly for an intangibility attack.

MM transforms into Lois seduces Clark and then GL holds him, WW ties him up w/ lasso. Then Hawkgirl batters Clark while Batman continues to insult Clark on how stupid he is and is holding Kryptonite to his face at the same time. While doing that Flash is out getting drinks for a celebration. 😆 😆

If things get rough this is what order they will die in.......

6. Hawkgirl
5. John Stewart
4. Batman
3. Flash(although it is likely Superman won't tag him).
2. WW
1. MM(I believe MM is the one that will kill Superman once in for all Hahahahahaha!)

This is assuming this a slug em out tipe brawl where Clark doesn't use his full arsenal like arctic-breath, super-breath, heat vision.

Erm JLA(Big 6) 8-9/10.

JLA win, and with ease.
Hawkgirl on that show, was insanely powerful in comparison to the comics. Insanely.
With that mace, she'll disrupt the hv and break his jaw on a good swing. And while he was fast there, he's not shown to dwarf her in speed.

Originally posted by UniOmni
JLA win, and with ease.
Hawkgirl on that show, was insanely powerful in comparison to the comics. Insanely.
With that mace, she'll disrupt the hv and break his jaw on a good swing. And while he was fast there, he's not shown to dwarf her in speed.

Hawkgirl was only useful in few situations. He'd smoke her. 😬

John Stewart was gay on the show. He was seriously depowered.