Your Church

What makes YOUR church the ONE and only one, or is it not the only one, and why do you go there???

Oh, do you need one to feel you are close to what you may the spirit?

My personal beliefs are that belief and religion is more a way of life than what building you choose to frequent. Thus, I have beliefs but don't go to a church.

😕 I don't have a church....

Originally posted by debbiejo
What makes YOUR church the ONE and only one, or is it not the only one, and why do you go there???

Oh, do you need one to feel you are close to what you may the spirit?

If religion exists, there should only be one that can be the ONE. Thus, mine is, otherwise I should not belong to it. Whether or not it is, if a person belongs to a religion they should believe this. If a person does not believe in a religion, then they should believe they do not need one and believe that there is not one that is the ONE, by the same logic.

If a person doesn't believe this way, then they are stupid for following their religion, or lack thereof, imo.

Hell, the most religion I get anymore is either through my own personal reading when I'm curious about stuff, or here on KMC. So, would that make this forum my church??

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Originally posted by Regret
If religion exists, there should only be one that can be the ONE. Thus, mine is, otherwise I should not belong to it. Whether or not it is, if a person belongs to a religion they should believe this. If a person does not believe in a religion, then they should believe they do not need one and believe that there is not one that is the ONE, by the same logic.

If a person doesn't believe this way, then they are stupid for following their religion, or lack thereof, imo.

Not necessarily. Plenty of people who are religious don't buy into the concept that thier religion is the only one worth being into....some people just think thier religion is what's best for them, and still respect and recognize other people's religions.

I think the "All or Nothing" logic is more dangerous. I think it's more sensible to be Agnostic than Athiest...or religious.

Originally posted by debbiejo
What makes YOUR church the ONE and only one, or is it not the only one, and why do you go there???

Oh, do you need one to feel you are close to what you may the spirit?

I don't have a church. I have an alter in my house, and I chant and do Gongyo there every morning and evening. My religion is not the only good religion out there. There are many religions that are good. The problem is people. Not all people, in all religions, are good, some are evil, and even fewer are very evil. There is no religion that is without these evil people. Therefore, there is no religion that can claim to be superior.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Not necessarily. Plenty of people who are religious don't buy into the concept that their religion is the only one worth being into....some people just think their religion is what's best for them, and still respect and recognize other people's religions.

I think the "All or Nothing" logic is more dangerous. I think it's more sensible to be Agnostic than Athiest...or religious.

Yes, I agree with what you are stating. But I think those people "who are religious but don't buy into the concept that their religion is the only one worth being into....some people just think their religion is what's best for them" are undeclared agnostic, but attend a religion.

I don't believe people should not "respect and recognize other people's religions", I just believe that one needs to be opinionated. I believe you should believe what you believe, just be rational if your belief proves to be wrong. I do not believe in sitting on the fence, the grass is green somewhere, but it doesn't do you any good if you just sit there trying to decide where it is greener, you just waste your time.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't have a church. I have an alter in my house, and I chant and do Gongyo there every morning and evening. My religion is not the only good religion out there. There are many religions that are good. The problem is people. Not all people, in all religions, are good, some are evil, and even fewer are very evil. There is no religion that is without these evil people. Therefore, there is no religion that can claim to be superior.

But the question is, why is your choice of path to enlightenment the more correct one? 😉

Originally posted by Regret
But the question is, why is your choice of path to enlightenment the more correct one? 😉

It is not the more correct one. It is the more correct one for me.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It is not the more correct one. It is the more correct one for me.

I thought that the Nicheran author claimed that a person could not achieve enlightenment via another path? I admit I am not knowledgable on the subject.

Originally posted by Regret
I thought that the Nicheran author claimed that a person could not achieve enlightenment via another path? I admit I am not knowledgable on the subject.

Yes, Nicheran was a fundamentalist Buddhist. However, I am not Nicheran, and I do not know what he knew. I do not know enough to say that other religions cannot lead to enlightenment. BTW Nicheran did not know of religions other then Buddhism.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes, Nicheran was a fundamentalist Buddhist. However, I am not Nicheran, and I do not know what he knew. I do not know enough to say that other religions cannot lead to enlightenment. BTW Nicheran did not know of religions other then Buddhism.

Ok, thanks 🙂 I apologize if my post was offensive at all, was just clarifying what I knew of your beliefs.

It would be interesting to know what he would have stated had he known, are there current lines of thought among the Nicheran Buddhists as to this?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Not necessarily. Plenty of people who are religious don't buy into the concept that thier religion is the only one worth being into....some people just think thier religion is what's best for them, and still respect and recognize other people's religions.

I think the "All or Nothing" logic is more dangerous. I think it's more sensible to be Agnostic than Athiest...or religious.

Thats because you don't understand that many athiests and agnostics also question their faith.

Originally posted by Regret
Ok, thanks 🙂 I apologize if my post was offensive at all, was just clarifying what I knew of your beliefs.

It would be interesting to know what he would have stated had he known, are there current lines of thought among the Nicheran Buddhists as to this?

No offence taken. I think he would have rejected it at first, but would have been intrigued with what Jesus had to say. But I don't know, cultural and language barriers may have been too strong of an obstacle to over come for him. After all, he was just a human.

Originally posted by Regret
If a person does not believe in a religion, then they should believe they do not need one and believe that there is not one that is the ONE, by the same logic.

If there is no god, how does religion make any sense?

Originally posted by Alliance
If there is no god, how does religion make any sense?

That is still a stance on religion. You believe that there isn't one true religion, in fact, that there is no truth to religion. You fit my statement.

Originally posted by Regret
That is still a stance on religion. You believe that there isn't one true religion, in fact, that there is no truth to religion. You fit my statement.

Originally posted by Alliance
But that is incorrect...I believe that religious philosophy is beneficial. I just remove all the supernatural crap.

I am sorry if I was wrong in my statement concerning your belief. I don't see how this statement doesn't fit you all the same:

Alliance does not believe in a religion, he believes he does not need one and believes that there is not one that is the ONE.

But there is no reason to believe in gods. No evidence. Its just idea that are told so often from birth, you believe its true.