Dr Strange & Clea vs Talisman & Shaman

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Dr Strange & Clea vs Talisman & Shaman

To powerful Magic team both teams get 10 days of prep

Doctor Strange- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr_Strange

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Clea- http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/Clea

Way to hard to determine, almost impossible really

Giving uber magical users prep is so hard to predict

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Way to hard to determine, almost impossible really

Giving uber magical users prep is so hard to predict


Not really, no.

Clea isn't needed here.

Strange alone cannot take on these two

That's debatable because he is the Sorcerer Supreme

Originally posted by golem370
That's debatable because he is the Sorcerer Supreme

Talisman is the Jesus of the Native Americans.

"The Talisman is a mortal channel through which the gods can fight and is the breaker of Dark Spells, the one who binds all evil."

Earth Gods? and can these gods compare to the Vishanti?

Originally posted by golem370
Earth Gods? and can these gods compare to the Vishanti?

Don't know which gods as it was never revealed, but donning the Talisman she said to have godhood powers herself. Unknown, I honestly couldn't say. She's so strong she can control the Gods of the Arctic and the Great Beasts to her will because they were from the Spirit Realm.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Strange alone cannot take on these two

Why not? They certainly aren't as powerful as him and with prep, they've never reached the same level he has reached with prep. He has a skill, experience(He's older than both combined) and a power advantage on his side. Not to mention the MASSIVE....M A S S I V E advantage of having more magical contacts who rate on the top 10 most powerful beings in existance that would help him out in a pinch.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Don't know which gods as it was never revealed, but donning the Talisman she said to have godhood powers herself. Unknown, I honestly couldn't say. She's so strong she can control the Gods of the Arctic and the Great Beasts to her will because they were from the Spirit Realm.

Nature Gods.

Strange calls them "Sprites" and keeps them in his basement as pets. Seriously.

No, I'm serious.

Originally posted by long pig
Why not? They certainly aren't as powerful as him and with prep, they've never reached the same level he has reached with prep. He has a skill, experience(He's older than both combined) and a power advantage on his side. Not to mention the MASSIVE....M A S S I V E advantage of having more magical contacts who rate on the top 10 most powerful beings in existance that would help him out in a pinch.

How would you know? as said about Shaman,

In an interview found in Marvel Age #2 [May, 1983], John Byrne: "If you want to sum it up . . . he's Dr. Strange--but he does it with potions and herbs and little dolls and stuff, instead of just doing it with the power of his mind, the way Strange does. This possibly gives Shaman a slight advantage, I don't know. If he had the tools at hand, he can make just about anything. I don't know if Strange has that kind of power over the physical world." Below are various objects and spells Shaman has pulled out of his pouch.

Actually no, the Talisman is over 20,000 years old. Power advantage? as said both Talisman and Dr.Strange are equals stated and portrayed during the Llan crisis and during the Ranaq battle.

Originally posted by long pig
Nature Gods.

Strange calls them "Sprites" and keeps them in his basement as pets. Seriously.

No, I'm serious.

Actually no, it's for sure not nature gods. She controls spirits, but even the Gods of the Arctic bow before her and they easily defeated a person Dr.Strange was unsure if he could beat.

This is a vast amount of Prep devices Dr Strange could use to aid him.

http://www.neilalien.com/doc/powers/

Originally posted by King_Mungi
How would you know? as said about Shaman,

In an interview found in Marvel Age #2 [May, 1983], John Byrne: "If you want to sum it up . . . he's Dr. Strange--but he does it with potions and herbs and little dolls and stuff, instead of just doing it with the power of his mind, the way Strange does. This possibly gives Shaman a slight advantage, I don't know. If he had the tools at hand, he can make just about anything. I don't know if Strange has that kind of power over the physical world." Below are various objects and spells Shaman has pulled out of his pouch.

Actually no, the Talisman is over 20,000 years old. Power advantage? as said both Talisman and Dr.Strange are equals stated and portrayed during the Llan crisis and during the Ranaq battle.

Quoting a writer really means little here, it's all about feats. I can quote a writer who says this: "Dr.Strange can do anything. Nothing can actually hurt him." And that's by Joe Quesada. Or hell, how about "Dr.Strange has enough power to shake or shape a universe."? That was in his comic. Does it matter? Not really.

What does matter is the fact ol' Strange can do anything these two can do except better and with less hassle. His feats do the talking.

Not taking sides but no Magic user has the feats that Doc Strange has. Thier crazy. Beating death the in-betweener and holding off the IG. *shakes head* crazy...

Likewise...
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Talisman:
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Talisman

Shaman:
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Shaman

Who knows what these teams are capable of with that kinda prep

euh agree opinions don't really count, and that opinion is over 23 year old, sorry not good enough for me.

Still I'm not sure who would win or iff doc strange could take them alone.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Actually no, it's for sure not nature gods. She controls spirits, but even the Gods of the Arctic bow before her and they easily defeated a person Dr.Strange was unsure if he could beat.

Eh? Are you saying he doesn't keep gods of nature in his basement? Like the wolf god, the owl god, the gods the native americans worship? They were spirit gods. They've came to him and he fricken kept them in a friggin' magical room until he realized that they meant no harm. Like a turtle I found the other day...which I'm still not sure he's not a killer turtle....I'ma keep him a while longer, just in case.

Turtles, pshh...

Originally posted by long pig
Quoting a writer really means little here, it's all about feats. I can quote a writer who says this: "Dr.Strange can do anything. Nothing can actually hurt him." And that's by Joe Quesada. Or hell, how about "Dr.Strange has enough power to shake or shape a universe."? That was in his comic. Does it matter? Not really.

What does matter is the fact ol' Strange can do anything these two can do except better and with less hassle. His feats do the talking.

Except he literally can pull out anything and everything from his hammerspace. He has multiple dimensions and universes inside his pouch. Actually Talisman was even said to shape a universe, and SHaman did shake the universe.

Talisman was shown to easily control skyfather beings with no trouble at all, your greatly underestimating her.

Originally posted by long pig
Eh? Are you saying he doesn't keep gods of nature in his basement? Like the wolf god, the owl god, the gods the native americans worship? They were spirit gods. They've came to him and he fricken kept them in a friggin' magical room until he realized that they meant no harm. Like a turtle I found the other day...which I'm still not sure he's not a killer turtle....I'ma keep him a while longer, just in case.

Turtles, pshh...

No I thought you said Talisman gods that fight through her are nature gods. Eh? no they don't worship them in the same sense as their Northern Gods, as shown and portrayed during Shaman's trials in the Spirit Test. She has absolute control over those spirits, Dr.Strange doesn't