Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlWhen the character he beat of litterly a billion times stronger than the opposing team abc logic does work.And freezing Hulk isn't PIS it's actually how it SHOULD work all the time.Hulk for all his gamma ray goodness is still based on a human being and needs blood to survive.Decreasing the temperature would slow the flow of blood to his brain stopping him from even thinking straight let alone get angry.
PIS and abc logic do not work here.
Originally posted by superbatman86
When the character he beat of litterly a billion times stronger than the opposing team abc logic does work.And freezing Hulk isn't PIS it's actually how it SHOULD work all the time.Hulk for all his gamma ray goodness is still based on a human being and needs blood to survive.Decreasing the temperature would slow the flow of blood to his brain stopping him from even thinking straight let alone get angry.
Well tell that to the hulk when he was in outerspace with no protective clothing. it's already as cold as you can get out there. So um no. Just no. Iceman isn't doing anything to anyone who's been in the cold of space.
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Space= three degress above absolute zero
Iceman= absolute zero where motion has completely and utterly stoppedYour logic isnt making sense.
And U think Three Degrees is going to make a difference to beings of this calibur. Hell Killer Frost has shown way more freezing power than Iceman after neron gave her more power. I made a thread for iceman to go thru. everyone agreed he stopped at one. go find it.
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Hulk getting frozen:
http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theincrediblehulkv2336205xk.jpg
http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theincrediblehulkv233621e1xk.jpgIceman goes to absolute zero:
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uxm242pg34eu3.jpg
That's not hulk frozen from the inside out. That him frozen in a block of ice. I"m sure some panels later, he breakes out. If he was truly frozen down to the molecules, he would crumble or melt effectively being turned into ice.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And U think Three Degrees is going to make a difference to beings of this calibur. Hell Killer Frost has shown way more freezing power than Iceman after neron gave her more power. I made a thread for iceman to go thru. everyone agreed he stopped at one. go find it.
Ummm...yes. There is NO motion after those three degrees. Its like flash stealing all of your speed. Molecules dont move after absolute zero.
I saw the thread. I already gave my opinion on it (and WW should have been number one seeing as she is mostly a physical character instead of the much more versitile sersi). My suggestion? Learn science. Then come back and argue
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That's not hulk frozen from the inside out. That him frozen in a block of ice. I"m sure some panels later, he breakes out. If he was truly frozen down to the molecules, he would crumble or melt effectively being turned into ice.
This molecular enough for you?:
http://img347.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenforever5p192kj.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenforever5p208wl.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenforever5p217vf.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenforever5p227kd.jpg
maybe this?:
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenn41p143oa.jpg
or this:
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=icemanbloodfreeze4zt8la.jpg
or one of my favorites ripping water from someone:
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iceman13gv.jpg
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iceman20rs.jpg
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iceman32ns.jpg
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Ummm...yes. There is NO motion after those three degrees. Its like flash stealing all of your speed. Molecules dont move after absolute zero.
I saw the thread. I already gave my opinion on it (and WW should have been number one seeing as she is mostly a physical character instead of the much more versitile sersi). My suggestion? Learn science. Then come back and argue
Flash Freeze dude...hes used it to many times to not be considered instant.
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Flash Freeze dude...hes used it to many times to not be considered instant.
and why isn't legion cracking? it's pure pis. Legion is one of the greatest psy's ever and he didnt' read iceman's mind and focr him to stop? PIS. Any way, Legion is not WW. She is protected by the Gods with the Fire's of Hestia. Iceman ain't freezing nothing of Hestia's.
Iceman is an omega mutant. No one cares if you dont like the fact that he can freeze people instantly. Its been done. He did it to emma, legion, oblivion, and stranger and a Celestial ship, and hes done it to sentinals. If all your gonna cry is pis go learn to debate somewhere else. Iceman isnt the snowball throwing idiot he used to be.
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Iceman is an omega mutant. No one cares if you dont like the fact that he can freeze people instantly. Its been done. He did it to emma, legion, oblivion, and stranger and a Celestial ship, and hes done it to sentinals. If all your gonna cry is pis go learn to debate somewhere else. Iceman isnt the snowball throwing idiot he used to be.
That is all Good that he is an omega mutant. He still can't freeze out the Fire of Hestia. he still has a concious. The avatar of truth would force him to revert back to his true state.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I tried to tell him that Iceman couldn't beat Geo Force. Who controls the fundemental forces of the Earth. Including Magnetism, Terra control, and the heat of the earth.
notice the shifty....its a joke between us 😐
Geo Force now controls magestism.....isnt it gravity? besides the point. he still has water content in his body doesnt he? it gets ripped out 😬
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That is all Good that he is an omega mutant. He still can't freeze out the Fire of Hestia. he still has a concious. The avatar of truth would force him to revert back to his true state.
You do realize that the abstract, cosmic beings are scared of mutants most importantly omegas...they represent the end of the universe 😬
Originally posted by Blair Wind
notice the shifty....its a joke between us 😐Geo Force now controls magestism.....isnt it gravity? besides the point. he still has water content in his body doesnt he? it gets ripped out ;\
For Iceman to be so bad ass, I sure as hell came up with a guantlet he coudlnt' get thru one person on it.
