Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That is all Good that he is an omega mutant. He still can't freeze out the Fire of Hestia. he still has a concious. The avatar of truth would force him to revert back to his true state.
Originally posted by Accel
Dude, the Fire of Hestia don't protect WW from being frozen (don't they exist in her mind or something?). As we saw in her fight against Superman, she CAN be frozen.
no she wasn't frozen solid. She was covered in ice. Try again. to which she came out of. She is protected from being messed with on a molecular lvl. Circe is far more powerful than Iceman. And she can't do it.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
no she wasn't frozen solid. She was covered in ice. Try again. to which she came out of. She is protected from being messed with on a molecular lvl. Circe is far more powerful than Iceman. And she can't do it.
Originally posted by Blair Wind
he could sure as hell beat IW, WW, and Superman (look up the thread with him vs icema)....the others are debatable....I dont see how any of the none cosmics could know where he was in water vapor form. Plus he could inhibit there body. He has that as a tactical advantage
Ur wroong, he can't beat any of them. By the very nature of thier powers, he can't win. He doesn't have the will power to freeze superman.
as far as wonder woman goes, if he tried to touch her water with his mind, he looses, her lasso powers are also housed with in her. touching her with his mind would cause him to be subject to her will. and he's not a telepath trained to combat mental commands and such.
Originally posted by Accel
She's reisistant to magic, which Iceman ain't. Did Circe ever try to freeze her inside and out? Did Circe ever show the ability to freeze on Iceman's level?
Killer Frost Out freezes iceman at ever lvl. And she ain't been able to freeze superman or wonder woman. And no she is not resistant to magic, she is resisant to molecular tampering. Iceman is over rated. One good magical spell can send his soul to hades. what's he gonna do from down there?
Originally posted by Blair Wind
😐 hes not a green latern. Will power has nothing to do with freezing someones molecules 😐
OH yes it does. Superman is a vastly powerful being. First off, his physiology houses and stores vast amounts of solar energy. Iceman isnt flash freezing that kind of energy. 2ndly, by the time he even began to make a dent in supers energy, iceman would be tvoed into oblivion.
when does superman ever actually Tvo? its been used TWICE by the same writer....
He doesnt need to freeze the energy (and anything that he can do Stranger beats him in. Cosmic > Superman) He just freezes his brian, miousture inversions his head off or rippes the water in his body out....or stops all molecular motion
Originally posted by Blair Wind
when does superman ever actually Tvo? its been used TWICE by the same writer....He doesnt need to freeze the energy (and anything that he can do Stranger beats him in. Cosmic > Superman) He just freezes his brian, miousture inversions his head off or rippes the water in his body out....or stops all molecular motion
Iceman isn't that powerful bud. Who says water even works the same way in superman? Superman Travels into the sun all the time. If water was natural in him like us, it would all evaporate. which means that the water in upper lvl beings like, superman, thor, ww, must be tied to thier invulnerabilities. All of them have been in hotter than Earth core temps, all of them have been in the cold of outer space and fought frost giants and ice demons and people like killer frost who has been using absolute zero freezing powers for years before iceman. Hell, you can't even touch her without what ever you ht her with shattering. That is how actuall absolute freezing works. Anything else is poor writing. For that matter, matter maninpulaters all cando what iceman can do and more. TAnd we haven't seen anyone under mxy mess with superman.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Iceman isn't that powerful bud. Who says water even works the same way in superman? Superman Travels into the sun all the time. If water was natural in him like us, it would all evaporate. which means that the water in upper lvl beings like, superman, thor, ww, must be tied to thier invulnerabilities. All of them have been in hotter than Earth core temps, all of them have been in the cold of outer space and fought frost giants and ice demons and people like killer frost who has been using absolute zero freezing powers for years before iceman. Hell, you can't even touch her without what ever you ht her with shattering. That is how actuall absolute freezing works. Anything else is poor writing. For that matter, matter maninpulaters all cando what iceman can do and more. TAnd we haven't seen anyone under mxy mess with superman.
Iceman has frozen cosmic beings before 😐. Theres a reason he is omega. Plus superman still eats and drinks. If there is water there Iceman can manipulate it 😬 Besides being in the sun is pis (using your favorite word) for most people.....comic book writers dont take alot of things into account😬
Originally posted by Blair Wind
when does superman ever actually Tvo? its been used TWICE by the same writer....He doesnt need to freeze the energy (and anything that he can do Stranger beats him in. Cosmic > Superman) He just freezes his brian, miousture inversions his head off or rippes the water in his body out....or stops all molecular motion
Actually, it's been used more than twice. He even mentioned it in a Spectre comic. Skeets has the scan.
I don't think you want to play the "who is higher than who" game with the people Superman has beaten. 😐
Iceman goes to absolute zero:
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?...m242pg34eu3.jpg
I think you are confusing "VIRTUALLY absolute zero" with "absolute zero."
He doesn't have the will power to freeze superman.
?? lol.
Originally posted by What If...
I think you are confusing "VIRTUALLY absolute zero" with "absolute zero."?? lol.
Are we confusing beings who fly thru the cold of space, face beings far beyond iceman, fought killer frost who trumps icemans freezing abilities, who can with stand the pressures of black holes, the heat of the sun and re entry into the earth's atmosphere, with some crappy characters that couldn't find a way to beat iceman. BOO. Firestorm Elemental turns him into s snow ball and leaves him in the sun.
Are we confusing beings who fly thru the cold of space, face beings far beyond iceman, fought killer frost who trumps icemans freezing abilities, who can with stand the pressures of black holes, the heat of the sun and re entry into the earth's atmosphere, with some crappy characters that couldn't find a way to beat iceman. BOO. Firestorm Elemental turns him into s snow ball and leaves him in the sun.
Umm i don't know why you even brought up Superman, because I was saying he cannot get to abolsute zero, like blair wind stated.
Go make another 3v3 thread that usually gets 8-9 responses.
Originally posted by What If...As if what you say matters. Some of my threads get good response. I'm sure If I use marvel characters only, they'll get more response. The DC ones loose automatically here. And i'm so glad you pay my net bill and you can tell me what to go make. And this thread has over 50 responses and it's not the biggest thread i've made. U need new glasses? 🙂
Umm i don't know why you even brought up Superman, because I was saying he cannot get to abolsute zero, like blair wind stated.Go make another 3v3 thread that usually gets 8-9 responses.
