World's Funnest Mr. Mxy vs. The Living Tribunal

Started by Mr Master8 pages

Originally posted by abhilegend

Mxy also destroyed Pre-crisis DCU which was an infinite omniverse.


So now you got Mxy playing with a separate "Omniverse" ... plus other Multiverses?

I'm gonna have to see that with my own eyes friend.

ps. Do not return with explanations. Only On Panel evidence of this other omniverse.

Originally posted by abhilegend

You can't just ignore on-panel evidences about 4th wall because
you don't like it. If you want to say that LT is too weak himself so
he brings outside help in form of She-hulk or bring out non-canon
instances like What The or something like that.


Sooo, you would actually bring in Mxy playing in the "real world" as a feat?

If so, you and I, would never debate where Mxy is involved.

btw. I never said what Mxy did didn't happen,
in fact I clearly pointed out he toyed with 2-3 multiverseS not just one,
which Galan proved due to DC's cosmology.
(something the writer was unaware of cause he didn't give a shit
about that but it ended up being what it is, and it's canon so that's that)

But the 4th wall nonsense can be overlooked
and still Mxy is a God in that story.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Also where was it stated that he held the power of two
megaverses in his hand? He held the two Brothers in his hand who
later became the guardians of two megaverses, right? Where was it
stated that they created those two megaverses?


The LT didn't just hold them like action figures, but LT fashioned them as well.

The Brothers are the guardians and "Architects" of those MegaverseS.

I'm sure that doesn't mean they're designing plans on a drawing board. lol
That obviously means the Brothers are the creators of said MegarverseS.

If they created the MegaverseS, and they guard them likewise,
then they are the Power behind those MegaverseS.

Anyway,
the whole idea is a near perfect copy of the Original Brothers,
and they Embodied the realities.

Imo, this goes the same for the retcon BrotherS.

Originally posted by Mr.SunKing

eh, i honestly don't thik the she -hulk 4th wall instance vs Myx's
can really compare, given the scope of his abilities, it is more
reasonable as of to why he would be capable of such a feat though.


I'm willing to bet, She-Hulk has more 4th wall feats than Mxy.

That aside,
regardless of how common place it can be for a character to break the 4th wall,
it shouldn't be used a means of feats when pinned against a
character with no relation to the 4th wall.

It's simply ... unfair.

Originally posted by Mr.SunKing


And as far as the verses comparison, can the two really be
compared. I know Marvel has a rather large amount of
universes/multiveres while DC has multiple but more countable, but
given the fact they're set in two totally different Omniverses, can
you the size honestly be equated? Can things be measured as all of
DC's continuity=Marvel's as in terms of quality despite the
numerical differences, or perhaps i'm complicating things more than they need to be.


I was just pointing out a technicality. Imo, All is All.

Basically that means to me:

The infinite Marvel Multiverse of 1985 = the infinite Marvel Omniverse of 1992.

Obviously not technically, but if we put someone from 85 let's say,
and they performed an all encompassing feat, you know, affect the whole Multiverse,
and then we have mr 92's (or any year above) all encompassing feat ... (now omniverse)

Is 92 god gretaer than 85 god simply because Marvel added more territory?

Not imo.

So anyway, if I didn't lose you, ... this means I agree with you. 🙂
... oh, and good post.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I'm willing to bet, She-Hulk has more 4th wall feats than Mxy.

That aside,
regardless of how common place it can be for a character to break the 4th wall,
it shouldn't be used a means of feats when pinned against a
character with no relation to the 4th wall.

It's simply ... unfair.

I was just pointing out a technicality. Imo, All is All.

Basically that means to me:

The infinite Marvel Multiverse of 1985 = the infinite Marvel Omniverse of 1992.

Obviously not technically, but if we put someone from 85 let's say,
and they performed an all encompassing feat, you know, affect the whole Multiverse,
and then we have mr 92's (or any year above) all encompassing feat ... (now omniverse)

Is 92 god gretaer than 85 god simply because Marvel added more territory?

'92's feat is absolutely greater. In fact, it would be infinitely greater. Why? Because the omniverse is infinitely larger than a multiverse.

Originally posted by cdtm
Gog didn't defeat him, he just blew a hole through him. Superman did the same to Emperor Joker.

Countdown to Final Crisis was garbage. And Mxy still wasn't nearly as depowered as he pretended to be, as SBP tried and failed to kill him, and Mxy kept pointing out how he's a chronic liar and was obviously playing around with SBP as much as "beaten"..

That' a forum win. He disappeared aka left the battlefield. Do you need a link to the forum rules ?

I could care less what your opinion is of it. It still counts. Mxy was at their mercy. That's a fact. His willpower and powers were weakened.

Originally posted by zopzop
Mxy destroyed more than just the Presence. Mxy wrecked ALL of DC and it's all on panel. He then recreated it all.

Mxy stomps the LT. The only characters in Marvel that have any hope against him, not including retcons, would be Scathan or the Protege. And even then, my money is on Mxy.

Thanos witth he heart/pretcon Beyonder, Scathan, Lt, Protege, etc. would easily defeat Mxy here.

Mxy didn't defeat anyone near Lt's level at all. We have seen him at a loss against the Ultimator and defeated by far less. Your radical opinion is wrong here.

Originally posted by Galan007
'92's feat is absolutely greater. In fact, it would be infinitely greater. Why hi? Because the omniverse is infinitely larger than a multiverse.

What other reality warping feats come close to that?

Originally posted by "Id"
It does not matter what his role, or class is. Titles are meaning less. In a match, it comes down to power, and what you can do with it. For all his insurmountable being. There are being that have come in, and humbled him (Protege anyone?)

I can play the [b]low balling game too, and point out how Reed tooled LT. But it doesn't even come to that. This isn't Mxy in general. But "World Funnest", per OP outline. So your point is moot.

Now do you have anything that overshadows Mxy feat, or are you still blowing hot air? [/B]

Protege didn't beat him. Lt did hourglass him into defeat at the end of the day. I will take reed's plot device power any day over Annataz and Prime. The guy with prep is on another level. Wf's played around too much and he gets hour glassed. He will be joking around until his doom.

Feats aren't the total picture here. You can pretend they are and ignore portrayals all you want but I will take part in n such thing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Protege didn't beat him. Lt did hourglass him into defeat at the end of the day. I will take reed's plot device power any day over Annataz and Prime. The guy with prep is on another level. Wf's played around too much and he gets hour glassed. He will be joking around until his doom.

Feats aren't the total picture here. You can pretend they are and ignore portrayals all you want but I will take part in n such thing.


Denial followed by some circular logic. I'll get back to you, when you have a point wroth responding to.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That' a forum win. He disappeared aka left the battlefield. Do you need a link to the forum rules ?

I could care less what your opinion is of it. It still counts. Mxy was at their mercy. That's a fact. His willpower and powers were weakened.

That wasn't a forum fight, and wasn't even a comic book fight (Mxy got blindsiided, but didn't attempt to fight at any point.) so forum rules are irrelvent.

My opinion is actually backed up by forum rules. It's called Spiderman vs Firelord, which encompasses outlier far outside of standards.

Originally posted by Mr Master
So now you got Mxy playing with a separate "Omniverse" ... plus other Multiverses?

I'm gonna have to see that with my own eyes friend.

ps. Do not return with explanations. Only On Panel evidence of this other omniverse.

By on panel evidence even the post crisis DCU is an omniverse due to hypertime.

Did you by any chance forgot to think about pre-crisis DCU having Infinite universes? DCAU which mxy destroyed is also an omniverse according to JL:Crisis on two Earths. Fourth world is so big that entire DC omniverse is contained in a bubble in fourth world, fourth world is contained in a similar fashion in fifth dimension and so on. Mxy destroyed them all.

Sooo, you would actually bring in Mxy playing in the "real world" as a feat?
No, but I wouldn't just ignore them too.

If so, you and I, would never debate where Mxy is involved.
I would be so heartbroken!!11!!

Seriously I don't give a damn.

btw. I never said what Mxy did didn't happen,
in fact I clearly pointed out he toyed with 2-3 multiverseS not just one,
which Galan proved due to DC's cosmology.
Galan is too soft with you. You say marvel omniverse at every occasion where its not even mentioned by pure conjecture. Well so can I.
(something the writer was unaware of cause he didn't give a shit
about that but it ended up being what it is, and it's canon so that's that)
Funny that you talk about writer intentions.

But the 4th wall nonsense can be overlooked
and still Mxy is a God in that story.
Fine by me.

The LT didn't just hold them like action figures, but [b]LT fashioned them as well.

The Brothers are the guardians and "Architects" of those MegaverseS.

Guardians and Architects doesn't mean shit. An architect isn't the maker of something, he just makes plans and execute them.

I'm sure that doesn't mean they're designing plans on a drawing board. lol
That obviously means the Brothers are the creators of said MegarverseS.
No, it doesn't. Bring proof of them being the creator of those megaverses.

If they created the MegaverseS, and they guard them likewise,
then they are the Power behind those MegaverseS.
So Roma, Merlyn, Kismet and other guardians of universe, multiverse or omniverse are the power behind those? Great logic.

Anyway,
the whole idea is a near perfect copy of the Original Brothers,
and they Embodied the realities.
Those were retconned. You didn't see one brother embodying DC anywhere, did you? I certainly didn't.

Imo, this goes the same for the retcon BrotherS. [/B]
Bring on panel proof. I don't trust your opinion, at all.

lol how many omniverses are there in DC?

cross company madness is lovely

Originally posted by "Id"
Denial followed by some circular logic. I'll get back to you, when you have a point wroth responding to.
This from the guy who went and hid under his bedsheets until our battlezone ended. Mxy is a jokester and Lt can hour glass him into defeat.

Originally posted by cdtm
That wasn't a forum fight, and wasn't even a comic book fight (Mxy got blindsiided, but didn't attempt to fight at any point.) so forum rules are irrelvent.

My opinion is actually backed up by forum rules. It's called Spiderman vs Firelord, which encompasses outlier far outside of standards.

That level of power which is far beneath him beat him. I could care less about the context of another fight. It's canon. it happened. Deal with it.

Bugs Bunny>Mxy

Originally posted by guy222
Bugs Bunny>Mxy
👆

Ats right. Redneck talk 😛

Originally posted by Galan007

'92's feat is absolutely greater. In fact, it would be infinitely
greater. Why? Because the omniverse is infinitely larger than a multiverse.


Technically speaking? Absolutely. 👆

But I still feel that all is all.

btw. The Multiverse of back then
was an infinity beyond infinity according to Strange.

Originally posted by guy222
Bugs Bunny>Mxy

😂

Originally posted by Jynocidus

lol how many omniverses are there in DC?

cross company madness is lovely


👆 ... I think I accounted 3 on this page.

Not in the actual comics, but hey ... durlaugh

*** Leo, imo, gave the best critical perspective concerning the imp.

Originally posted by leonidas

i think the question is a loaded one tbh. it's one that can't be
resolved the way you'd like it to be resolved because i think the
intent was to be a spoof, a romp, a roasting of the previous dc
cosmological cluster-phuck. to that end, the writer used a
character that he thought was perfect for the task, one that is both
cartoonish and illogical. i don't believe any real thought was given
to the consequences, because i suspect the author was just trying
to writer something funny and entertaining. how do you try and
rationalize away a feat that was NEVER intended to be rationally
analyzed??

looking at strictly what happened on panel, yes, it is a massive
feat--the best ever in comics. but when we look at what it implies,
it becomes......almost impossible to credit. you either have to then
take the stance that what was shown clearly depicts mxy as more
powerful than ANYONE, or you come up with excuses to try and
explain away what was clearly shown. personally, i tend to never
get involved with discussions about this feat because i don't really
fall into either camp. some things in comics need to be taken for
what they were intended to be imho--outlets for entertainment. if
THAT is the view you take, you also accept the idea that
sometimes, things happen in comics that simply do NOT make
sense, and never will because they never can. and trying to force
logic onto an illogical system is one of the definitions of insanity methinks.....


Again ... 👆