World's Funnest Mr. Mxy vs. The Living Tribunal

Originally posted by abhilegend

By on panel evidence even the post crisis DCU is an omniverse due to hypertime.

Unfortunately, that scan is Not Pre-World's Funnest.

Therefore, it's inadmissible.

Nice try though. I don't think it applies to what you're saying anyways
cause kmc DC cosmic experts like Galan and others would've noticed.

Let me bring out Marvel becoming an Omniverse (after the Fact)
and then credit every all encompassing feat prior to that ... as "omniversal."

Nah.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Did you by any chance forgot to think about pre-crisis DCU having Infinite
universes? DCAU which mxy destroyed is also an omniverse according to JL:Crisis
on two Earths. Fourth world is so big that entire DC omniverse is contained in a
bubble in fourth world, fourth world is contained in a similar fashion in fifth
dimension and so on. Mxy destroyed them all.

I wanna see where it's stated that DC has multiple OmniverseS.

According to Strange even the Prime Multiverse is an Infinity Beyond Infinity.

And he stated this Before the Marvel "omniverse" was produced.

Just sayin. See, just sayin.

Originally posted by abhilegend

No, but I wouldn't just ignore them too.

I would be so heartbroken!!11!!

Seriously I don't give a damn.

Good thing it seems you wouldn't use 4th wall feats as a means to debate.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Galan is too soft with you. You say marvel omniverse at every occasion where its
not even mentioned by pure conjecture. Well so can I. .

I've never ever stated that Marvel has multiple omniverseS.

That's what you're trying to sell into play here.

That aside, wait ... the off-topic comment you made ~~~> facepalm

Stick to the debate.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Funny that you talk about writer intentions.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Fine by me.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Guardians and Architects doesn't mean shit.
An architect isn't the maker of something, he just makes plans and execute them.

No, it doesn't. Bring proof of them being the creator of those megaverses.

Originally posted by abhilegend

So Roma, Merlyn, Kismet and other guardians of universe,
multiverse or omniverse are the power behind those?

Great logic.

I really don't care about Kismet or anything other DC related.

But let me know where's it stated or depicted that Merlyn and/or Roma ever "architected" the Omniverse.

Although, I can still use your own sarcasm against you with the "Great logic" snap.

Merlyn became the Omniversal Guardian once he merged
with the power that flows/controls the Entire Omniverse. (Energy Matrix)

Team Excalibur reversed an entire Prime Multiversal collapse effortlessly
by tapping into Merlyn's power source. "tapping" ...

Merlyn fused the Life-Force of the Entire Omniverse into tiny crystals ...
... crack a crystal, erase an entire universe. Simple.
Absolute omniversal power, manipulating everything around,
only the Jaspers family seemed to surpass him.

So yea, while Your logic is faulty since you used characters you know zip about,
but in fact, yes, you actually just proved my point.

As for Roma, when she's written right (not often) she's a monster. (stalemating omniversal power)
But, writers make her rely on her father's gift, the Celestial Nullifier.
(any reality in the omniverse is game)

Originally posted by abhilegend

Those were retconned.
You didn't see one brother embodying DC anywhere, did you?
I certainly didn't.

The Marvel Brothers Look exactly like the original Brothers (Marvel & DC)

The Marvel Brothers are locked in an eternal struggle just like the original Brothers (Marvel & DC)

They have the same Name: The Brothers

The Marvel Brothers battle with swords, just like the original Brothers (Marvel & DC)

The Marvel Brothers are blue and red, just like the original Brothers (Marvel & DC)

The Marvel Brothers are guardians of the realities they architected, just like the original Brothers. (Marvel & DC)

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Coincidence? hm Not imo, but perhaps.

What's left?

The original Brothers embodied their respective realities,
sooo, the Marvel Brothers don't?

Everything else a carbon copy to the T ... but they decided to change that huh?

I disagree.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Bring on panel proof. I don't trust your opinion, at all.

Originally, the story involved the DC and Marvel entirety,
and Mike Carlin, who was currently an Executive Editor at DC,
approved the project, added his ideas and allowed his name to be highlighted.

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I used to debate against this, but it is what it was,
the Spectre being alluded to being involved,
but in the most obvious way:

--------------------------------

Interestingly enough,
I always thought the LT held the ALPHA & OMEGA on the other hand,
but in fact, I just noticed, it is the BrotherS that ARE the Beginning & the End:

"Alpha & Omega revolve on the Wheel of Destiny ...
a Wheel spun by his mighty Hand .. A Hand soon opening
to allow two Brothers to assume their pre-destined roles
as architects of new realities."

Wow ... nice!

My friend, had it not been for me proving you wrong,
I'd stay ignorant about this myself,
can't be believe I overlooked that, but an old dog can learn dem tricks.

Thanks!

So the LT undoubtably,
held the power/embodiment/beginning-end ... of Two MegaverseS in one hand.

Originally posted by Mr Master
btw. The Multiverse of back then
was an infinity beyond infinity according to Strange.

Because a single universe is perpetually expanding outward, it is, for all intents and purposes, infinite. A multiverse is a collection of an infinite amount of universes-- thus it is, both literally and figuratively, "infinity beyond infinity."

🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
Strange's assertion of the multiverse's breadth is correct.

Because a single universe is perpetually expanding outward, it is, for all intents and purposes, infinite.
A multiverse is a collection of an infinite amount of universes--
thus it is, both literally and figuratively, "infinity beyond infinity."

It also makes sense. 👆

That's how I roll, yo.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Interestingly enough,
I always thought the LT held the ALPHA & OMEGA on the other hand,
but in fact, I just noticed, it is the BrotherS that ARE the Beginning & the End:

"Alpha & Omega revolve on the Wheel of Destiny ...
a Wheel spun by his mighty Hand .. [b]A Hand soon opening
to allow two Brothers to assume their pre-destined roles
as architects of new realities." [/B]

However, that has nothing to do with the Brothers, as they weren't directly linked to the wheel of destiny or Alpha/Omega. LT just happened to manifest them on the same hand he uses to spin the wheel of destiny...

Originally posted by Mr Master
Yea, we've all seen that scan before.

Unfortunately, that scan is Not [b]Pre-World's Funnest.

Therefore, it's inadmissible.

Nice try though. I don't think it applies to what you're saying anyways
cause kmc DC cosmic experts like Galan and others would've noticed.

Let me bring out Marvel becoming an Omniverse (after the Fact)
and then credit every all encompassing feat prior to that ... as "omniversal."

Explanations.

I wanna see where it's stated that DC has multiple OmniverseS.

According to Strange even the Prime Multiverse is an Infinity Beyond Infinity.

And he stated this Before the Marvel "omniverse" was produced.

That's enough.

Just sayin. See, just sayin.

Your feelings are inconsequential.

I'm just telling you how it would be.

Good thing it seems you wouldn't use 4th wall feats as a means to debate.

"too soft with me" ... 😆 ...

I've never ever stated that Marvel has multiple omniverseS.

That's what you're trying to sell into play here.

That aside, wait ... the off-topic comment you made ~~~> facepalm

Stick to the debate.

Let me know. The link is but a post away.

"Architect" also means "one who designs and makes"

No, it doesn't.

😂 I see you still think you're on a tear with this snappy sarcasm. lol

I really don't care about Kismet or anything other DC related.

But let me know where's it stated or depicted that Merlyn and/or Roma ever "architected" the Omniverse.

Although, I can still use your own sarcasm against you with the "Great logic" snap.

Merlyn became the Omniversal Guardian once he merged
with the power that flows/controls the Entire Omniverse. (Energy Matrix)

Team Excalibur reversed an entire Prime Multiversal collapse effortlessly
by tapping into Merlyn's power source. "tapping" ...

[quote]Merlyn fused the Life-Force of the Entire Omniverse into tiny crystals ...
crack a crystal, erase an entire universe. Simple.
Absolute omniversal power, manipulating everything around,
only the Jaspers family (Gods) seemed to surpass him.

So yea, while You're logic is faulty since you used characters you know zip about,
but in fact, yes, you actually just proved my point.

As for Roma, when she's written right (not often) she's a monster. (stalemating omniversal power)
But, writers make her rely on her father's gift, the Celestial Nullifier.

You're funny. Seriously.

The Marvel Brothers Look exactly like the original Brothers (Marvel & DC)

😂

The Marvel Brothers are locked in an eternal struggle
just like the original Brothers (Marvel & DC)

They have the same Name: The Brothers

The Marvel Brothers battle with swords, just like the original Brothers (Marvel & DC)

The Marvel Brothers are blue and red, just like the original Brothers (Marvel & DC)

The Marvel Brothers are guardians of the realities they architected,
just like the original Brothers.

-------------------

Coincidence? hm Not imo, but perhaps.

What's left?

The original Brothers embodied their respective realities,
sooo, the Marvel Brothers don't?

Everything else a carbon copy to the T ... but they decided to change that huh?

I disagree.

How about this.

Originally, the story involved the DC and Marvel entirety,
and Mike Carlin, who was currently an Executive Editor at DC,
approved the project, added his ideas and allowed his name to be highlighted.

*snip*

I used to debate against this, but it is what it was,
the Spectre being alluded to being involved,
but in the most obvious way:

*snip*

Interestingly enough,
I always thought the LT held the ALPHA & OMEGA on the other hand,
but in fact, I just noticed, it is the BrotherS that ARE the Beginning & the End:

*snip*

"Alpha & Omega revolve on the Wheel of Destiny ...
a Wheel spun by his mighty Hand .. A Hand soon opening
to allow two Brothers to assume their pre-destined roles
as architects of new realities."

Wow ... nice!

My friend, had it not been for you, I'd stay ignorant about this myself,
can't be believe I overlooked that, but in old dogs can learn dem tricks.

Thanks!

So the LT undoubtably,
held not power/embodiment/beginning/end of Two MegaverseS in one hand. [/B]

👆

Originally posted by Galan007

I gotta disagree here. The scan states that Alpha/Omega revolve
on the wheel of destiny, and LT's hand spins the wheel of destiny. ie.
LT's hand spins the wheel, which spins Alpha/Omega by proxy.

However, that has nothing to do with the Brothers, as they weren't
directly linked to the wheel of destiny or Alpha/Omega. LT just
happened to manifest them on the same hand he uses to spin the wheel of destiny...

The fact that the Brothers were initially made to be the exact replicas
of the original Brothers, tells me that they were in fact, the embodiments
of those Megaverses just like the originals were the embodiments of their realities.

Also, I don't believe it's an opinion that the Alpha & Omega = the Brothers,
I see that as a fact.
Now that is, after realizing the significance of those Brothers in that story.
Obviously at some point, somewhere it was ignored that they embodied
DC & Marvel, but that was the idea originally in the X-Men Adventures tale.

So instead, they embody those Megaverses,
like in most stories Eternity/Infinity embody the prime Multiverse I suppose.

It's really not a big deal.

*** Remember Galan,
this story was supposed to be a follow up to the DC vs Marvel comedy,
this is why "Spectre" was involved.
It only relates to the part of the Brothers from the original story.

Don't get me wrong, this shit is very confusing.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Doesn't matter in the least. Its always been an omniverse. It was just a secret due to linear men keeping it a secret.
Your opinion is inadmissible.
I don't give a shit about what anyone else thinks or notices. You can try to reference them to anyone else.
You already don't? This is not the situation here.
Fourth world is big enough to hold entire DC omniverse in a bubble.
That's enough.
Just sayin.
LOL. You can save it.
Good for you.
Yup.
I've never said so too. DCU,
DCAU and pre-crisis DCU are always different omniverse.
You got that right.
Your feelings are inconsequential.
LOL.
The whole thread would be filled up.
No, it doesn't.
What can I say.
I can say the same about marvel cosmology.
They are certainly the guardians of omniverse which the brothers were.
Give it your best shot.
This is your best shot? I'm disappointed.
not being able to understand my simple statement is just lulzworthy.
Written right, means whatever suits you to sort out from good showing to bad showing.
Excellent point.
Again excellent point.
Hahaha, carry on.
You are killing me here.
They were guardians. The original brothers were the embodiment of the DC and marvel universes.
Your opinion is irrelevant.
Everything is same? How about curbstomping LT and embodying DC and marvel?
You can disagree all you want, doesn't matter at all.
This is entirely irrelevant to the discussion. If you are trying to say
that the brothers were architect of DC and Marvel universes
because their pre-destined roles were those

Let me know when you can prove Mxy toyed with multiple OmniverseS.

Until then, I can see you're not a true debater, and a common troll instead.

So, welcome to my ignore list.

Now you can bark at your screen all you want,
and believe yourself to be someone,
but you ain't wasting my time again.

Peace and love ... stoned

Originally posted by abhilegend

You are still MS-WORD/Human hybrid.

Originally posted by abhilegend

based upon

Adventures of X-men which is a non-canon comic itself,

I can only
laugh at you. You are funny as hell.

Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe - LT Bio

The story is also referenced in Galactus' bio and Jean Grey's, oh, and Dweller in Darkness.

Have a good evening.

Still disagree, but don't care enough to argue it any further.

I hate everyone in this thread, except Galan. sneer

durfist

Originally posted by Mr Master
Good ol' gibberish.

Let me know when you can prove Mxy toyed with multiple OmniverseS.

Until then, I can see you're not a true debater, and a common troll instead.

So, welcome to my ignore list.

Now you can bark at your screen all you want,
and believe yourself to be someone,
but you ain't wasting my time again.

Peace and love ... stoned

This was the only thing that at-least made me laugh. I like that. lol

Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe - LT Bio

The story is also referenced in Galactus' bio and Jean Grey's, oh, and Dweller in Darkness.

Have a good evening.

Originally posted by Badabing
I hate everyone in this thread, except Galan. sneer

durfist

Originally posted by Galan007

Still disagree

This page over at Marvuanapp hasn't been updated since mid 2004,
but at-least until then, this is the Bio of the Retcon BrotherS:

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/brothers.htm

... ouch ...

On a side note to whom it may concern:

I could be hated ... so long as I'm right. 😛
... and that's exactly the case here.

btw. The guy who created Marvunapp is the person who came up with the term "Megaverse"
which Marvel comics and even DC applies to their worlds.

After 2006, Marvel has been referencing a sole Omniverse
with endless representations of 616, so that detail's changed,
but the rest, is right on point with me.

Originally posted by Mr Master
You know that's cool.

This page over at Marvuanapp hasn't been updated since mid 2004,
but at-least until then, this is the Bio of the Retcon BrotherS:

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/brothers.htm

😂

Originally posted by Galan007

"The Spectre in the DC universe isn't really the equivalent to the
Living Tribunal. He is much less powerful and not the guardian of the
multiverse. He is actually the embodiment of God's wrath or
something."

Concerning consistency.

Doesn't DC have a Metaverse?

Originally posted by Mr Master
That's pretty much true though. 😂

Concerning consistency.

Though I do think Spectre was clearly intended to be LT's equal(in both power and role) during that particular crossover.

^^ 👆 ... In the follow up too, if the LT needed to consult with him to act.

Oh,
and please set the record straight already as to Mxy's influence in WF
4th wall comedy aside of course.

You're enjoying yourself by holding back, but I'm done with him,
so burst the bubble as only you can concerning the imp.

(this has nothing to do with who wins)

I posted my complete opinion regarding the totality of Mxy's feat in another thread(the Beyonder one, I think..?) So I leave it at that. 😉