Morg with power cosmic vs Darkseid

Originally posted by Rols
Yeah thats what i always think when debating But OB being able to erase anything would not be fair since both Universe is combined it does not have desame effect as if it were just the DC universe.. OB has diff. application not just erase it like realty/matter manipulation, planetary blast so thats what should be used. I say it will work on DC char. but not Marvel Char. the OB erasing from existence application i mean..

Yes it would. Read the Forum Rules. What ever powers are available to a character are worthy to be used in forum battles. In this case. Odin would simply be erased or aged to death. He after all is not immortal. This battle is simply Darkseid's.

Well if thats the case, Darkseids owns anybody below Antimonitors..
Includes the Whole Watcher and Celestial race since theyre not essential to the Universe. Still there is no proof that OB's ability to erase being of diff. omniverse will work. Take SS for example in that non cannon crossover, it didnt erase him, and Darkseid or the Narator never said anything about Darkseid not wanting SS erase...
Anyhow we can keep debating about this we still wouldnt have come to an agreement.. ill leave it at that..

Originally posted by Rols
Well if thats the case, Darkseids owns anybody below Antimonitors..
Includes the Whole Watcher and Celestial race since theyre not essential to the Universe. Still there is no proof that OB's ability to erase being of diff. omniverse will work. Take SS for example in that non cannon crossover, it didnt erase him, and Darkseid or the Narator never said anything about Darkseid not wanting SS erase...
Anyhow we can keep debating about this we still wouldnt have come to an agreement.. ill leave it at that..

You argue just to argue. IF the characters didnt' behave like they did in thier perspective universes, then it wouldn't be any fights at all. There is no power cosmic in DC, so who's to say surfer could drain superman's energy. There is no oan energy in Marvel. Who's to say green lanterns ring wouldn't be more than a nice piece of jewelry to Thor. I just go by the thinking that all characters for these battles inhibit one universe. If I didnt' , then there would be nothing to debate. There is no power infinite in DC, so the INfinity Gauntlet wouldnt' work. But to say that Darksied is from DC, so whoever where's the IG would be powerless against him is stupid to me. It's the same thing with DS OE. IF he can use it for the win, and it has been shown to have complete power over any being it touches, then it's within the forum rules for him to get the win.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You argue just to argue. IF the characters didnt' behave like they did in thier perspective universes, then it wouldn't be any fights at all. There is no power cosmic in DC, so who's to say surfer could drain superman's energy. There is no oan energy in Marvel. Who's to say green lanterns ring wouldn't be more than a nice piece of jewelry to Thor. I just go by the thinking that all characters for these battles inhibit one universe. If I didnt' , then there would be nothing to debate. There is no power infinite in DC, so the INfinity Gauntlet wouldnt' work. But to say that Darksied is from DC, so whoever where's the IG would be powerless against him is stupid to me. It's the same thing with DS OE. IF he can use it for the win, and it has been shown to have complete power over any being it touches, then it's within the forum rules for him to get the win.

Originally posted by Rols
Im not saying, None of his powers will work but theres gotto be a ballance of it all. Think about it OB erases anything and everything heck it could be more powerfull than the freagen IG in DC, Im just trying to figure out the limits of it.. I dont think its more powerfull that the Whole Celestial race or Watcher race, I mean since they are not essential to the universe Darkseids OB could just practicall zap all of em out of existence.. I mean his not that powerfull.. I dont know if your getting what im saying..

I have never seen darksied zip out entire races at one time. I know he can move stars and destroy Galaxies, but he doesn't have power like that. Not even Galactus can destroy like that. THat is a very specific kind of power that only big time reality manipulaters have. Darksied can prolly take one celestial. In a stalemate. NOt the entire race. I'm sure he can beat a watcher. They are like the Guardians. So powerful yet would get cremed for being a passifist. There is no limit to the OE. it's only limit is scope. But to the individual target, it's infinitely powerful. Darksied can do what ever he wants to that one person, if it touches. Who's to say someone can't throw up a shield. But it's got to be something completely powerful like Thor's Hammer, or WW's shield of Ageis. THe OE also has the niftly ability to go around the shields if darksied see it coming. Morg at his best showings would prolly be physically as strong as DS. but he doesn't have the powers or skill to beat out DS's Telepathy, Avatar copying, TK, and what ever other God powers he has. With out the OE, Morg puts up a good fight and gets 3/10. With the OE against him, he looses 10/10.

But i have seen him zap people out of existence say 3 actually after another with one beam so whos to say he can keep it going. What im trying to figure out is what it takes to stop the effect of the OB from erasing a being since there are only 3 beings in Marvel that are issential.. I give you an Example Katylis whose sole purpose was to arrange burnt out Solar systems to galaxies that should show you the extent of his powers but he is not essential to the Universes so a single blast from the OB would erase him instantly.. This is what im trying to figure out..

Originally posted by Rols
But i have seen him zap people out of existence say 3 actually after another with one beam so whos to say he can keep it going. What im trying to figure out is what it takes to stop the effect of the OB from erasing a being since there are only 3 beings in Marvel that are issential.. I give you an Example Katylis whose sole purpose was to arrange burnt out Solar systems to galaxies that should show you the extent of his powers but he is not essential to the Universes so a single blast from the OB would erase him instantly.. This is what im trying to figure out..

There are ways to beat the true Darksied. Trying to withstand the OE is not one of them.

Im not talkin in stopin Darkseid im trying to figure out the limits of the OB.. Daz all..

Originally posted by Rols
Im not talkin in stopin Darkseid im trying to figure out the limits of the OB.. Daz all..

To my knowlege there is none save a multiversal power house like the AM or Mr. Mxy or people who are powered by thier importance. Like The spectre, or For some strange reason superman. I dont know about marvel vs the OE since no marvel character has ever been shown facing the oe in a cannon cross over. But if they work like DC' characters work, then Thor's hammer could deflect it, galactus could with stand it. Not that it won't hurt, he just wont' die.

See these another thing confusing about OB, you shouldnt be able to deflect it since it can erase anything that Darkseid puts its mind to. SS was also narrated as important in the Universe, Uato the watcher/Galactus/tribunal all mentioned it, Thanos is protected by death who is essential to the Universe would this guys survived the attacked from an OB full force? The Stranger who is supposedly a face of living tribunal who is Omniversal in power (Marvel only) would he survived from that kind of attack as well. this is what im trying to figure out..

Originally posted by Rols
See these another thing confusing about OB, you shouldnt be able to deflect it since it can erase anything that Darkseid puts its mind to. SS was also narrated as important in the Universe, Uato the watcher/Galactus/tribunal all mentioned it, Thanos is protected by death who is essential to the Universe would this guys survived the attacked from an OB full force? The Stranger who is supposedly a face of living tribunal who is Omniversal in power (Marvel only) would he survived from that kind of attack as well. this is what im trying to figure out..

Originally posted by Rols
See these another thing confusing about OB, you shouldnt be able to deflect it since it can erase anything that Darkseid puts its mind to. SS was also narrated as important in the Universe, Uato the watcher/Galactus/tribunal all mentioned it, Thanos is protected by death who is essential to the Universe would this guys survived the attacked from an OB full force? The Stranger who is supposedly a face of living tribunal who is Omniversal in power (Marvel only) would he survived from that kind of attack as well. this is what im trying to figure out..

Like I said, characters from another company are hard to figure out. The OE probably can't erase them from existance like he want. Just like with Superman. But they still hurt like hell when they hit. ANd whos' to say he would try to erase them. Maybe Teleport them away, or deage them. These are things that DS probably could do to someone protected by God or outside of the wrealm of influence. In a fight, you still want to save ur self from pain and injury, just cuz ur protected from being erased doesn't mean you can't wish you were dead.

Ok heres how it goes.
Without Oe, Morg takes it 7/10, Maybe 8/10(Avatar)
The rest, there is no way he is winning, so lets leave it at that.

Originally posted by bigbran
Ok heres how it goes.
Without Oe, Morg takes it 7/10, Maybe 8/10(Avatar)
The rest, there is no way he is winning, so lets leave it at that.

of course this assuming darksied would just lay there and let morg pummel him. Darksied is one of the strongest beings in existance. He doesn't need the OE. He has Universal lvl TK. He has shifted around stars and stuff. He also has telepathy so strong that he has controlled millions. He also is uber fast, he's a god of war, so he knows how to mix it up and fight. He can also copy himself and make a bunch of avatars during the fight and kill morg outright. Imagine morg trying to dodge the omega effecty times ten.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
of course this assuming darksied would just lay there and let morg pummel him. Darksied is one of the strongest beings in existance. He doesn't need the OE. He has Universal lvl TK. He has shifted around stars and stuff. He also has telepathy so strong that he has controlled millions. He also is uber fast, he's a god of war, so he knows how to mix it up and fight. He can also copy himself and make a bunch of avatars during the fight and kill morg outright. Imagine morg trying to dodge the omega effecty times ten.

I said, he will take 7/10 to an avatar.

Originally posted by bigbran
So... do you just ignore posts, now?

I said, he will take 7/10 to an avatar.

NO. We all know the avatars are like Thanos light. But since Thanos ain't no punk, i'm just saying what would it be like for morg to fight many of them.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO. We all know the avatars are like Thanos light. But since Thanos ain't no punk, i'm just saying what would it be like for morg to fight many of them.

Thanos is comparable to PC Darkseid. Although he would lose, he is still comparable.

Thanos is over an avatar. Plain and simple.
And without the OE, an avatar would most likely go down to Morg.

Here's how Darkseid ***** slaps Supes around (and the way it would be everytime).

Morg was powerful, but not in Darkseids league.

Darkseid's Omega Beams have even harmed The Spectre for a moment until The Spectre collected himself.

Morg will definetely take out an Avatar but the real one Morg wouldnt stand a chance..