Originally posted by AlfheimNo, but that's what makes comics so special.
Is it possible to freeze energy? 😕
Originally posted by InhumanBut now it's being argued that Iceman can take them both... 😐
I think this would have been a better matchup if it was...Thor & Magneto vs. Surfer & Iceman
or
Thor & Iceman vs. Surfer & Magneto
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlStranger was a whippng boy in that fight, so don't worry about it.
Was he fully frozen? Where is the panel after wards. Was he frozen and couldn't get out? How many times has someone been temporarily stopped and then willed themselves back.
Originally posted by Validus
It means nothing. You think Iceman will beat Thor or Surfer by knocking them down with snow?
Hey if he can do it to Oblivion I don't see why he cannot do it to SS and Thor, it seems that Icemans powers are more then just scientific absolute zero ( which is a theory by the way ), besides comics do not run on logic and or science much.
If SS has done it to a omniversal being with sheer will was able to resist and overcome Oblivion a omniversal power/level being, then I don't see why he cannot resist SS powers and thors powers, since many people speculate SS such as SS can turn off mutants powers ( when he has never shown this ) or SS can speed blitz and opponent in comnbat (which he has never shown in comics before) or SS can turn his opponents into chesse (Which again he has never shown in comics befoe).
Originally posted by Jesse7
Hey if he can do it to Oblivion I don't see why he cannot do it to SS and Thor, it seems that Icemans powers are more then just scientific absolute zero ( which is a theory by the way ), besides comics do not run on logic and or science much.If SS has done it to a omniversal being with sheer will was able to resist and overcome Oblivion a omniversal power/level being, then I don't see why he cannot resist SS powers and thors powers, since many people speculate SS such as SS can turn off mutants powers ( when he has never shown this ) or SS can speed blitz and opponent in comnbat (which he has never shown in comics before) or SS can turn his opponents into chesse (Which again he has never shown in comics befoe).
Originally posted by thedude1948
In Cable & Deadpool 10. against dying Cable, who had omega level Telepathy, and Telekinesis. Surfer kicked has ass and then decided he doesnt need his powers anymore so took them away.
From what I know of that battle and the whole story arc to that, Cable's powers were burning out and from using them as he did they "burned out".
Originally posted by Validus
Can you tell me what the power of love is going to do for Iceman here? Oblivion was not even defeated. He was knocked down for a little bit.
If the power of love can resist and overcome Oblivion a omniversal entity and power then I don't see why Iceman can't (speculation but hey thats what the kmc surfer is in large part, speculation) easily resist SS and Thors powers, when Iceman has before frozen the strangers energy blast mid air and then completely flash froze the stranger.
Icemans feats were cannon, the Stranger is well above SS and Thor, and Iceman schooled him, you may dislike it but its cannon.
PIS is subjective by the way.
Question:
How would anything Iceman can ever do, even begin to annoy Oblivion, who is on an Eternity level?
This is worse than Spiderman vs Firelord!
It's some serious pis!
But that's not where the problem arrises. It happens when someone actually uses this in a debate, to help them in there arguments.
That's like Cyclops vs Eternity!
All I have to say is... GET THAT SH*T OUT OF HERE!!!
Oblivion is a universal being, but to even get moved by a low level Mutant(and love) is bad writing.
Rant over, for now....
Originally posted by Jesse7
If the power of love can resist and overcome Oblivion a omniversal entity and power then I don't see why Iceman can't (speculation but hey thats what the kmc surfer is in large part, speculation) easily resist SS and Thors powers, when Iceman has before frozen the strangers energy blast mid air and then completely flash froze the stranger.Icemans feats were cannon, the Stranger is well above SS and Thor, and Iceman schooled him, you may dislike it but its cannon.
PIS is subjective by the way.
Jesse, you're full of crap, and you know it. Do you HONESTLY believe the garbage you post?
Originally posted by Jesse7
If the power of love can resist and overcome Oblivion a omniversal entity and power then I don't see why Iceman can't (speculation but hey thats what the kmc surfer is in large part, speculation) easily resist SS and Thors powers
Let's get the facts straight. Iceman never even hurt Oblivion. When Mirage asked Oblivion if he was hurt, he practically laughed at her. Two, Oblivion stated Bobby was helping him to see beyond his own ideas and into others such as love and kindness. I'd love to see you try and tell me how thats going to help in any way, shape, or form in this battle.
Originally posted by Jesse7
Icemans feats were cannon, the Stranger is well above SS and Thor
Originally posted by bigbran
Question:
How would anything Iceman can ever do, even begin to annoy Oblivion, who is on an Eternity level?This is worse than Spiderman vs Firelord!
It's some serious pis!
But that's not where the problem arrises. It happens when someone actually uses this in a debate, to help them in there arguments.
That's like Cyclops vs Eternity!All I have to say is... GET THAT SH*T OUT OF HERE!!!
Oblivion is a universal being, but to even get moved by a low level Mutant(and love) is bad writing.
Rant over, for now....
Oblivion is actually multiversal Bigbran, as in Oblivion devoures the dying universes.
Originally posted by Validus
I'm starting to wondering if you read comics or just look at scans online and dig for feats.Let's get the facts straight. Iceman never even hurt Oblivion. When Mirage asked Oblivion if he was hurt, he practically laughed at her. Two, Oblivion stated Bobby was helping him to see beyond his own ideas and into others such as love and kindness. I'd love to see you try and tell me how thats going to help in any way, shape, or form in this battle.
Bullshit. SS has beaten Stranger in the past. SS has beaten higher cosmics than Stranger. SS's best feats > Iceman's best feats
The point of the Oblivion exampe, was to show that if Iceman can even knock knock oblivion down, then imagine what he could do to SS and or Thor, secondly the stranger has schooled SS before, it works both ways.