Iceman and Magneto vs. Thor and Silver Surfer

Originally posted by batdude123
Jesse, you're full of crap, and you know it. Do you HONESTLY believe the garbage you post?

About this thread in particular or all threads?

Originally posted by Validus
I'm starting to wondering if you read comics or just look at scans online and dig for feats.

I'm thinkin' the latter. After looking through the Majestic respect thread, he was posting like he was an EXPERT on Majestros. 😐

Originally posted by bigbran
Question:
How would anything Iceman can ever do, even begin to annoy Oblivion, who is on an Eternity level?

This is worse than Spiderman vs Firelord!
It's some serious pis!
But that's not where the problem arrises. It happens when someone actually uses this in a debate, to help them in there arguments.
That's like Cyclops vs Eternity!

All I have to say is... GET THAT SH*T OUT OF HERE!!!

Oblivion is a universal being, but to even get moved by a low level Mutant(and love) is bad writing.

Rant over, for now....

I dont belive that Iceman can beat SS, but the person has a point for the wrong reason. Sometimes fighting entities can be different from other people because they are abstract so they can appear at any level to anyone. So beating oblivion does not prove anything.

P.S. Its get the F*** out of here get the S*** sounds weak.

Originally posted by Jesse7
The point of the Oblivion exampe, was to show that if Iceman can even knock knock oblivion down, then imagine what he could do to SS and or Thor

Originally posted by Jesse7
secondly the stranger has schooled SS before, it works both ways.

Originally posted by Jesse7
About this thread in particular or all threads?

This thread.

Originally posted by batdude123
I'm thinkin' the latter. After looking through the Majestic respect thread, he was posting like he was an EXPERT on Majestros. 😐

O i've never read a Majestic comic, what I learned from Majestros is from what I saw on the respect thread, but thats what respect threads are for are they not? To educate.

Originally posted by batdude123
This thread.

O yes this thread, I agree, Im arguing mostly because its lopsided and team mutant is the underdog, that and Bigbran is here.

Originally posted by bigbran
Question:
How would anything Iceman can ever do, even begin to annoy Oblivion, who is on an Eternity level?

This is worse than Spiderman vs Firelord!
It's some serious pis!
But that's not where the problem arrises. It happens when someone actually uses this in a debate, to help them in there arguments.
That's like Cyclops vs Eternity!

All I have to say is... GET THAT SH*T OUT OF HERE!!!

Oblivion is a universal being, but to even get moved by a low level Mutant(and love) is bad writing.

Rant over, for now....

Actually its quite plausible considering this is comics and abstracts have consciousness then its within reason that the power of love should affect oblivion. Oh and surfer and Thor win i just don't see this as been a battle but a beat down for the mutants.

Originally posted by Jesse7
If the power of love can resist and overcome Oblivion a omniversal entity and power then I don't see why Iceman can't

Originally posted by Jesse7
(speculation but hey thats what the kmc surfer is in large part, speculation)

Originally posted by Jesse7
easily resist SS and Thors powers,

Originally posted by Jesse7
when Iceman has before frozen the strangers energy blast mid air and then completely flash froze the stranger.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Icemans feats were cannon,

Originally posted by Jesse7
the Stranger is well above SS and Thor,

Originally posted by Jesse7
and Iceman schooled him,

Originally posted by Jesse7
you may dislike it but its cannon.

Originally posted by Jesse7
PIS is subjective by the way.

Plus Iceman wasn't an Omega when he did this. So one of the weaker X-men was able to fight a universal power, on the samelevel as Eternity?
😆

Originally posted by Jesse7
Oblivion is actually multiversal Bigbran, as in Oblivion devoures the dying universes.

Originally posted by batdude123
Jesse, you're full of crap, and you know it. Do you HONESTLY believe the garbage you post?

Originally posted by Jesse7
The point of the Oblivion exampe, was to show that if Iceman can even knock knock oblivion down, then imagine what he could do to SS and or Thor, secondly the stranger has schooled SS before, it works both ways.

Originally posted by bigbran
Funny? You mean when people actually post scans, instead of waiting for someone else to help out there case? Sure. This is when he was an omega, and he learned a lot about his power.

So was Spiderman beating Firelord! Hasn't SS beaten Stranger? Ya...right! Your also ignoring that Jean, Juggs, and a couple other were there too! So basically your saying Iceman by himself beat Stranger, good use of ignoring evidence!
I don't dislike the Stranger feat, but your using the Oblivion feat!

I guess forum rules are too now.

Plus Iceman wasn't an Omega when he did this. So one of the weaker X-men was able to fight a universal power, on the samelevel as Eternity?
😆

Your one of the main reasons I'm even debating for team mutant 😄

O by the way, reread the comic in which Iceman schools the Stranger, Juggs and Jean were flying AWAY from him and then bobby came and schooled him, Bobby then proceeded to spread his conciousness and take over the ship. Yeah the other mutants were a real big help against the stranger 🙂

PIS is subective, I agree Spiderman Vs. FL was PIS, but then again you claim half the things Supes does is PIS, for example knocking Thor out with 3 punches and Supes defeating Dom with T-vo? See what I mean you honestly see that as PIS, when really it can be equally debated that it isn't, PIS is subjective from person to person depending on their perception.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I dont belive that Iceman can beat SS, but the person has a point for the wrong reason. Sometimes fighting entities can be different from other people because they are abstract so they can appear at any level to anyone. So beating oblivion does not prove anything.

P.S. Its get the F*** out of here get the S*** sounds weak.

And I said, get that shit out of here.
Not get the shit out of here.

Originally posted by Jesse7
O yes this thread, I agree, Im arguing mostly because its lopsided and team mutant is the underdog, that and Bigbran is here.

In that case.... Iceman freezes Surfer and Magneto jams Mjolnir up Thor's ass. 🤪

Originally posted by Jesse7
O yes this thread, I agree, Im arguing mostly because its lopsided and team mutant is the underdog, that and Bigbran is here.

Originally posted by bigbran
Still an abstract.

And I said, get that shit out of here.
Not get the shit out of here.

Oh ok, but if you look at that quote you wrote "the" not that. Not that it matters but I just thought it kinda sounded wierd.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Your one of the main reasons I'm even debating for team mutant 😄

O by the way, reread the comic in which Iceman schools the Stranger, Juggs and Jean were flying AWAY from him and then bobby came and schooled him, Bobby then proceeded to spread his conciousness and take over the ship. Yeah the other mutants were a real big help against the stranger 🙂

Originally posted by bigbran
Still an abstract.

Yes but abstracts can fight at any level. They can appear to a normal human and that human could beat them, basically its a bad example.

Originally posted by bigbran
Because you can't out debate me, and you need to use, pis examples for your debate?
I already said I have nothing against you.
But I guess after all those ownings, you obviously have something against me.

lol ownings, ego much? That alone showns your immaturity, but hey if thats what you believe, sure why not! Own on Mr. Ownage!

Originally posted by Jesse7
lol ownings, ego much? That alone showns your immaturity.

I think he had some good points.

Originally posted by Validus
Actually they were considering Stranger was focusing on blasting the other mutants when Iceman came in and froze him. Nice try though.

Point being they weren't the ones who did dammage to Stranger.