Noah's Ark Discovered ... Again and Again

Originally posted by ESB -1138
To begin with animals did not kill and eat other animals. In the beginning nothing ate meat. God did not allow it. Not until after the flood when all the vegatation was whipped out did God allow man and others to eat animals.

[b]"the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered. Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered." (Genesis 7:19-20)

Fifteen cubits above the mountains the waters went not just fifteen cubits. [/B]

I think you're wrong; Noah and the Ark story can long after Adam & Eve were exiled from the Garden of Eden. Death and sin had already entered the world by the time of the Flood, so you are reaching here, nay grasping.

Originally posted by Robtard
I think you're wrong; Noah and the Ark story can long after Adam & Eve were exiled from the Garden of Eden. Death and sin had already entered the world by the time of the Flood, so you are reaching here, nay grasping.

Animals did not kill and eat one another which is what I said. God did not allow anything to eat another living creature until after the flood.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Animals did not kill and eat one another which is what I said. God did not allow anything to eat another living creature until after the flood.

Lol, show your reference for this.

Originally posted by Regret
Lol, show your reference for this.

Genesis 1:28-30

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moves upon the earth. (God made man responsible for every creature on earth)

And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. (God gave man fruits to eat meaning man was at first to be vegetarians)

And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creeps upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herd for meat: and it was so. (God gave animal fruits to eat)

Now in Genesis 9:3
Every moving thing that lives shall be meat for you; even as the green herd have I given you all things. (God allowed the eating of animals after the flood.)

Originally posted by ESB -1138
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moves upon the earth. (God made man responsible for every creature on earth)

Originally posted by ESB -1138
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. (God gave man fruits to eat meaning man was at first to be vegetarians)

Originally posted by ESB -1138
And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creeps upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herd for meat: and it was so. (God gave animal fruits to eat)

Originally posted by Alliance
Not true. God said man was superior, had dominon....ruling power. There was nothing ever mentioned about responsibility.

Not true...if man were vegitarians...how yould they have concept of "meat." And it never said anything about not eating meat.

How could you possibly draw that conclusion. Do you knwo what a "green herd" is?

1.) And as the ruling power it is one's responsibility for all living things. The presidents, kings, emperors, and so on were all ruling powers that ruled their people and were responsible for them. (Genesis 2:16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden you may eat freely) So God told the man (Adam) that he may eat of every tree but not animals.

2.) It seems you do not know that meat has more then one meaning:
2. edible fruit or nut part: the edible part of a fruit or nut, inside a shell or rind

3.) a seed-producing flowering plant. Animals do eat leaves and grass.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
1.) And as the ruling power it is one's responsibility for all living things. The presidents, kings, emperors, and so on were all ruling powers that ruled their people and were responsible for them.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
2.) It seems you do not know that meat has more then one meaning:
[b]2. edible fruit or nut part: the edible part of a fruit or nut, inside a shell or rind[/B]

Originally posted by ESB -1138
3.) a seed-producing flowering plant. Animals do eat leaves and grass.

Originally posted by Alliance
Animals also eat meat.

After the Flood.

Before the "flood".

I find these Christians who believe every word of the bible so alien. I cant understand why and how they got to thinking that these things happened, I cant understand how some one could take the bible at face value and believe every word of it. I'm willing to bet most if not all of them were raised as kids in a christian house hold, i find it sad. I have nothing against Christianity or any religion but i just find some of the things like esb1138 believes in so strange.

/end rant 😑

you cant [/rant] if you didn't [rant] 😑

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Genesis 1:28-30

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moves upon the earth. (God made man responsible for every creature on earth)

And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. (God gave man fruits to eat meaning man was at first to be vegetarians)

And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creeps upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herd for meat: and it was so. (God gave animal fruits to eat)

Now in Genesis 9:3
Every moving thing that lives shall be meat for you; even as the green herd have I given you all things. (God allowed the eating of animals after the flood.)

I do not have Biblical support stating otherwise, although I do not understand the reasoning for shepherding by Cain if there were no use for the animals meat. I think it may be an over generalization, but you seem to be correct.

If Noah's ark was lost in the first place how did the things on it (the animals) get off?

They leaped from the four pillars that hold up the earth.

Originally posted by Alliance
They leaped from the four pillars that hold up the earth.

Originally posted by Alliance
They leaped from the four pillars that hold up the earth.

Originally posted by Alliance

Didn't you know that the Earth is held up by four pillars?

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Animals did not kill and eat one another which is what I said. God did not allow anything to eat another living creature until after the flood.

What in the hell did lions, hyenas, wolves, jackals, badgers, smilodons, tyrannosauruses, velociraptors and ever other predator that ever lived on this planet need those large nasty meat eating teeth for then? Especially predatory dinosaurs, most Christian rationalize that dinosaurs went extinct* during the flood, are you telling me that tyranosaures lived and went extinct eating shrubbery?

*Then again, God did tell Noah to take two of every living thing(6:19 And of every living thing of all flesh), why were dinosaurs not in the boat?

Originally posted by Alliance
Didn't you know that the Earth is held up by four pillars?

Then again, I'm an "evolutionist" so I'm probably wrong and evil. 😐