Episode III too focused on Anakin's story

Started by Tangible God16 pages

Originally posted by Alliance
I see great films. There is more than just moments that are worth watching.

There is a lot of depth and artistic vlaue in the PT...it has a scope that the OT couldn't attempt (mostly becuase of technology). I also find that while the PT lacks well developed main characters, the background characters are much more intriguing.

The PT is visually amazing, I won't argue that. But no freakin' way does that make a movie.

It's not the charcters or their backgrounds that I don't like about the movie, it's the dialogue and the actors speaking them. Specifically Hayden and Natalie. Remove or drastically alter them and I'd be all for AOTC.

In short: the entire characterisation of these potential characters sucks!

Yes =-)

By the way, I must also say that I really, really did not like the way the Force was portrayed in the PT.

From growing up watching Star Wars the whole world tends to think of the Force as some kind of mystical, ehtereal energy, it seemed otherworldly in almost all respects. But with the PT, that whole philosphy was crushed into some weird anime-esque video game culture. Now, in EU novels, Force Push is a pro-noun aswell as other uses of the force, I mean it's like reading a screenplay from Tekken or some fighting game, not a novel. This way of describing the Force really destroys alot of that mystique.

I really wish the PT hadn't over elaborated with these uses of the Force.

The distancing from the Force having a 'mystic value' in the PT because it kinda show how bureaucratic the jedi order had become.. they even judge the potential of a jedi from their midi-chlorian count. Or worst, they choose jedis that way.

Nonetheless the existance of the midi-chlorians do haf a certain mystic feel to it, because they mysteriously "talks to you".

I think the force is cronically underused in the OT, becasue no one understands it.

Which was its strength.... it was so vague, you could go anywhere with it. But everyone understood what is was about, and hardly anything was said about it.
The PT just turned that whole Force speech ("Hate agression, fear, they lead to the Dark Side) into some mantra: just repeat it and it makes it more tangible. Lucas tried to give it more words, but he just gave it the same words and some lame midichlorians.

But its use is still superior...i never liked the midichlorions...i much prefer the abstract descriptions...like shatterpoints etc. Seeing though the force should be like beer goggles...it should change your perception entirely.

I agree... not expanding too much on the Force was outstanding. But then there are many thing took a different approach with in the PT.

yea, but like i've said before, as far as midicholians, that was just Lucas trying to give a scientific explanation for something that is beyond science. The way OB1 and Yoda descibed the force to Luke will always be the best ways. Too many holes in the midichlorian route. With a single pprick of blood, they were to gather that Anakin had a count over 20,000 which would be based on a ratio, but when he got cut up, he lost power??? No way, you cant reduce a ratio by eliminating limbs. By that logic, if Yoda was a foot taller, he would a signifigant gain in power...or anyone bigger than Yoda should have more than him...i hate it...OT force all the way.

That is reading too much into it. It shows a RATIO, not an absolute amount. So if Anakin's ratio of midichlorians is even highre than Yoda's, taht would say he could communicate with the Force better. Losing an arm doesn't change that.

But writing this down, makes me feel all icky about those midi's... hehehehehe.

no its not reading too much into it, i'm just explaining how it cantradicts itself....

gp queeq. If its density, then amount doesnt matter.

In that way it doesn't contradict itself. Because otherwise bigger force sensitive creatures would be stronger in the force than smaller, because they have less blood. Yoda's high midi count proves that for our little green friend.

but still, how exactly does these midichlorians 'talk' to the jedi? anyways if they do then it does explains the jedi quick reflexes doesn't it.

I am not that interested in the details of midichlorians...

Originally posted by Cybervader
but still, how exactly does these midichlorians 'talk' to the jedi? anyways if they do then it does explains the jedi quick reflexes doesn't it.

make up your own answer.

I disagree a lot with Lucas' perception of the force. You can too.

Just forget about those midi's... who needs them.

Apparently force users.

But how can we ignore it, after all it came from lucas doesn't it. So unfortunately MIDI-CHLORIANS are very canonical indeed.

i still wanna know how it talks to jedis.