parallax-antimonitor-imperiex vs chaoswave/wanda-reed/un-thanos/ig

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Originally posted by Mr Master
Bottom Line:

What can AM, Imperiex and Parallax do, that Reed/Un, Wanda/CW and Thanos/IG can't do?

FEAT for FEAT baby, bring it.

Baby, bring it?

Ugh!

This isn't a frat lacrosse game....

No.

It's feats and logic.

As you said, feats wise they can do arguably the same things.

However you completely going by feats and that's your ultimate folly.

I'm going with both. Logic dicates that Reed and Wanda will fry (even if Thanos protects them with a shield, I seriously doubt it could protect them from all three) before the bell finishes ringing.

Earth is what holds the multiverse together. Imperiex was going around destroying major galaxies that was vital to holding everything together, but not as vital as Earth. If he made the big bang in another solar system then it wouldn't work correctly.

Also GL never really contained Imperiex. Kyle said he would try to contain him and the next we read that everyone thinks he was contained, nope. Turn the next page and we see Brainiac 13 joining with Imperiex Prime's energy.

Wanda is getting overated, she is way out of her leagues with these guys. Did everyone forget how easily Strange punked her in Avengers Dissassembled?

And on the other side the Anti-Monitor is out of everyones else's league.
DC takes it

Originally posted by Mr Master
it wasn't canon though.

Seeing as LT is a multiversal being, wouldn't ALL his appearances be canon to a point?

Whether it's Reed from 616 or 238, it's still the same LT is it not?

Originally posted by Draco69
Baby, bring it?
Ugh!
This isn't a frat lacrosse game....

You do the jokes and the "uncalled for" disrespect, I'll simply make my point.

Your other speech, was...no coment.

Originally posted by Draco69
No.
It's feats and logic.

As you said, feats wise they can do arguably the same things.

However you completely going by feats and that's your ultimate folly.

I'm going with both. Logic dicates that Reed and Wanda will fry (even if Thanos protects them with a shield, I seriously doubt it could protect them from all three) before the bell finishes ringing.

No one is frying Wanda, and Reed gets sheltered by Thanos.

After Wanda says, "No more Mutants"...she Obliterates everything


Wanda didn't turn to atoms or molecules or pudding or anything, her FRAIL HUMAN BODY SURVIVED, like nothing ever happened

Oh, and she Remade Everything Again, So, not only did she survive, but she managed to make EVERYONE else survive too, or bring them ALL back with a NEW Universe.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Seeing as LT is a multiversal being, wouldn't ALL his appearances be canon to a point?

Whether it's Reed from 616 or 238, it's still the same LT is it not?

Absolutely.

But in researching the issue I found out it wasn't even in continuity.

Atleast What if's actually take place in some other Universe.

Originally posted by Draco69
And most of them involve the following:

1) A convinent plot-device
2) A convinent locale where Galacutus can't fight at his full potential
3) Galactus was injured in a battle previously or he's hungry
4) Galactus just stands there talking or firing laser beams that barely damage a 1956 Lexus...
5) Something to do with Franklin Richards.
6) Galactus surrenders because of some vow, some cosmic interfering or because they're not "worth his time."

If Galactus were to face Richards and his nearly incestous family in a straight up fight were Galacutus in not hampered by PIS/CIS or the Marvel editorial team, the FF would die..rather quickly.

Imperiux should have just exploded in another damn solar system. It doesn't matter WHERE he does it. Instead he comes all the way to a planet chock full of metahumans....

No. That's pure common sense and logic. Something you're ignoring. If I were a nearly omniscent cosmic being facing a guy with a creation ending TV remote, I would think I would use my powers to prevent that said guy from simply pressing a button.

Like turning him into a bunch of frogs.

Which falls under forum rules. Abraxas in a forum battle against Richards would cream the bastard.....

No. I'm right. You're just thinking an extremely illogical scenario where two human beings with an extreme power source yet normal human reflexes will somehow react and think faster than beings where a picosecond is as long as year and their consciousness can exist in past, present and future.....

Yeah....

You obviously skipped the last page where she was humping her twin brother's leg on the ground and wearing a oversized parka sold at Big & Tall, where she was obviously in deep concentration and taking a moment to rewrite reality.

Notice the heroes managed to react though they failed to react in time. Emma Frost and Dr. Strange actually managed to halt the complete extermination of the mutant race. Thus if THEY can do it....

Yep. Anti-Monitor and Parallax are much slower than Wolverine and Cyclops in your mind...

Time has no meaning against a guy who can rewrite time and the laws of the universe like taffy. Hell he wanted everything to be reverted back to the late 50s. When everything was "simple". And he almost did if the Spectre hadn't stopped him...

You seriously believe that time-travel is gonna work on Parallax???

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Sure there is. You're just ignoring the forum rules because it doesn't suit your interests and because you're not smart enough to argue properly while adhering to the "No SvFL" rules.

In this battle ALL players will be at their best and fighting as if everything the hold dear is on the line. Meaning Wanda and Reed die in amount of time that simply can't be measured. Thanos will be the only one left standing because he can most certainly endure it.

Tell me this? Who would win? Flash or Reed Richards with the UN?

If you say, Richards, than that just proves my case of you arguing illogically.

In case you get the above question wrong: Flash grabs the UN before Richards can blink.

Anti-Monitor can move fast than translightspeed and even PC Flash.
Parallax reached the Source Wall "instantenously" which is at the very end of the universe.
Imperiux was traveling several lightyears per minute.

Ya catch my drift?

But you so not following them...
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Except some common sense.

Yep. Because Abraxas was paralazed at the spot and he did his customary "NOOOOOOOO" as he reaches out to Reed at the pace of turtle...

Wanda wasn't zapped by a lightspeed laser. She WAS shot by an arrow...

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Too bad it doesn't work this way in the forums, honey.

If we followed your mindset, we would all agree that Wolverine can beat Hulk, 6/10....

Bravo Draco69 absolutely beautifully put, you know i was actually debating the battle in my mind thinking this would be close but your points are just beautiful DC team take it 🤘

Originally posted by Mr Master
Absolutely.

But in researching the issue I found out it wasn't even in continuity.

Atleast What if's actually take place in some other Universe.

Yah, I was in fact the one that told you in another thread, when you tried to use it as evidence of how 616 Reed would beat the Anti-Monitor. lol.

The whole Reed shooting the Living Tribunal with a giant cannon thing happened in the 982 universe, which is where the MC2 comics were based.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Absolutely.

But in researching the issue I found out it wasn't even in continuity.

Atleast What if's actually take place in some other Universe.

You mean kinda like in infinite crisis, every single else worlds and kingdome come and all where shown when superboy prime destroyed the time/reality wall? You mean how they were all shown as being in some other universe as well? that is what ur talking about right?

Originally posted by sexyking
Bravo Draco69 absolutely beautifully put, you know i was actually debating the battle in my mind thinking this would be close but your points are just beautiful DC team take it 🤘

Draco brought up the same points I was trying to say about Reed richards destroying the DCU. it's just not possible with beings who can reed his thoughts and simply freeze time before he presses the button. I'm so glad someone with some sense of logic actually backed me up.

This is getting way over hand.
Parallax: Destroyed "a" universe and recreated it from a scar of it.
Anti-Monitor: Have absorbed the power of a "serval" universes.
Imperies: I don't know him so I will not speculate.

Ultimate Nullifier: Can destroy and reacreate the Multi-verse like nothing.
Ininify Gauntlet: Makes you supreme master over the Multi-verse. (Living Tribunal is beyond the Multi-verse)
Chaos Wave: Could destroy all there was, just the existance of it made universes crumble.

You see the differance?
DC: one or serval universes.
Marvel: The multi-verse or all the universes.

It doesnt matter who wields the IG, even a mindless hobo can turn himself into a abstract, or speedblitz (just for fun) Multi-Eternity.

Some say that Mxyzptlk is about pre-retcon Beyonder level...
Mxyzptlk's greatest feat is destroying a Multi-verse.
The UN did the exact same thing, only that it also recreated it in a millisecond, it was nothing for this device.

Than people bring up info like: Beyonder can read and control minds, but we all know Superman have outsmarted the twit, he even made Mxy say his name backwards a couple of times in the same magazine.
But all the dimentions are a part of the same universe (in comics), so if you can destroy the universe, you desroy all the dimentions within it.

Thanos (IG) laughs them all off.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
This is getting way over hand.
Parallax: Destroyed "a" universe and recreated it from a scar of it.
Anti-Monitor: Have absorbed the power of a "serval" universes.
Imperies: I don't know him so I will not speculate.

Ultimate Nullifier: Can destroy and reacreate the Multi-verse like nothing.
Ininify Gauntlet: Makes you supreme master over the Multi-verse. (Living Tribunal is beyond the Multi-verse)
Chaos Wave: Could destroy all there was, just the existance of it made universes crumble.

You see the differance?
DC: one or serval universes.
Marvel: The multi-verse or all the universes.

It doesnt matter who wields the IG, even a mindless hobo can turn himself into a abstract, or speedblitz (just for fun) Multi-Eternity.

Some say that Mxyzptlk is about pre-retcon Beyonder level...
Mxyzptlk's greatest feat is destroying a Multi-verse.
The UN did the exact same thing, only that it also recreated it in a millisecond, it was nothing for this device.

Than people bring up info like: Beyonder can read and control minds, but we all know Superman have outsmarted the twit, he even made Mxy say his name backwards a couple of times in the same magazine.
But all the dimentions are a part of the same universe (in comics), so if you can destroy the universe, you desroy all the dimentions within it.


How ever you want to try and explain away thier power. You haven't done such a good job of it.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
How ever you want to try and explain away thier power. You haven't done such a good job of it.

Wanda can hold her own against either of these foes.

Thanos can take AM and Imperiex.

Reed is the one that might get toasted, unless Thanos and Wanda, who have total control of Reality, subconciously shield Reed, Reed proceeds to click the hell out of the UN, dropping like 20 Multiversal explosions on Parallax's head. 😂