Can The Thing compete with top tier brawlers anymore?

Started by long pig9 pages

He never has.

Close Thread.

(whispers the word "owned" to himself to make himself feel superior)

Re: Can The Thing compete with top tier brawlers anymore?

Originally posted by batdude123
It seems as if Ben gets owned a lot by top brawlers. Can Ben defeat one of these guys for the majority?

Colossus
She Hulk
Savage Hulk
Wonder Man
Namor
Abomination
Kurse
Mangog
Hercules
Iron Man (H2H)
Thor (H2H)
Juggernaut (Classic)
Professor Hulk
Atlas
Count Nefaria (H2H)
Sentry (H2H)

Who can Ben beat anymore?

Honestly? I don't see him getting the majority with any of them here.

At the very most, he wins an even amount (5/10) of matches with some of them.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Does the team NEED Ben's powers? Not nearly as much as the the others. However the team just isnt the team without Ben

Every team needs a mascot, the only win i can see ben pulling is against she hulk and that in itself is a big maybe. 😉

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Re: Can The Thing compete with top tier brawlers anymore?

Originally posted by batdude123
It seems as if Ben gets owned a lot by top brawlers. Can Ben defeat one of these guys for the majority?

Colossus
She Hulk
Savage Hulk
Wonder Man
Namor
Abomination
Kurse
Mangog
Hercules
Iron Man (H2H)
Thor (H2H)
Juggernaut (Classic)
Professor Hulk
Atlas
Count Nefaria (H2H)
Sentry (H2H)

Who can Ben beat anymore?

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I swear you guys don't know 1/2 of what you spew out on to your keyboards 99% of the time.

Where to start?

Ben will beat:

Colossus 7/10 (never really have fought love to see it Ben owned the skrull Colossus)

SHE-HULK 9/10 (Ben has owned SHE-HULK every time they have fought except the time Ben had a blood alcohol content of .40)

Savage HULK 3/10 (For the majority Savage is too much for Ben, As he is for 90% of the rest of the list)

Wonderman 7/10 (Ben has beaten Wonderman handily every time)

Namor 5/10 (Ben and Namor is always a great fight but there is never a clear winner with one not getting back up)

Abomination 6/10 (I don't think Ben has ever fought Abom it would be a great fight)

Kurse 1/10 (Too much for Ben as they are for 90% of the rest of the list)

Mangog 1/10 (Too much for Ben as they are for 90% of the rest of the list)

Hercules 5/10 (A fight that could either way and has)

Iron Man h2h 6/10 (IM is faster and maybe stronger but Bens fighting skill and "heart" win the majority until Tony downloads past fights of Bens into his armor then it's 2/10)

THOR h2h 3/10 ( THOR is THOR he is outside of a dc crossover always a beast for the majority is too much for Ben)

Juggernaut (classic) 2/10 (People like to use that horrible waste of paper and ink and everyones money called SW as a ruler to what would happen if they truly fought I say BS. Juggernaut (classic) is too much for Ben for the majority but not once would it really ever be a 3 hit combo for the win... It would be a long fight)

Prof. HULK 7/10 (Ben has an advantage in every category except in strength if it goes for a long time of straight fighting but even with that Ben dominates him)

Atlas 8/10 (Ben has owned Atlas and will continue to do so)

Count Nafaria h2h 2/10 (The count would be too much for Ben for the majority)

Sentry h2h 2/10 (Sentry is too fast and too strong for the majority)

Re: Re: Can The Thing compete with top tier brawlers anymore?

Originally posted by Grimm22
Colossus - Close, could go either way

She Hulk - Ben takes the majority

Savage Hulk - Hulk wins

Wonder Man - Simon wins

Namor - Namor wins the majority

Abomination - Abomination wins

Hercules - Herc wins

Iron Man (H2H) - Ben wins

Thor (H2H) - Thor wins

Juggernaut (Classic) - Juggs wins

Professor Hulk - Ben wins the majority

Atlas - Ben wins

Sentry (H2H) - Ben wins 😖hifty:

Any Hulk wins. So don't think any different.

Re: Re: Can The Thing compete with top tier brawlers anymore?

Originally posted by Tony Stark
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I swear you guys don't know 1/2 of what you spew out on to your keyboards 99% of the time.

Where to start?

Ben will beat:

Colossus 7/10 (never really have fought love to see it Ben owned the skrull Colossus)

SHE-HULK 9/10 (Ben has owned SHE-HULK every time they have fought except the time Ben had a blood alcohol content of .40)

Savage HULK 3/10 (For the majority Savage is too much for Ben, As he is for 90% of the rest of the list)

Wonderman 7/10 (Ben has beaten Wonderman handily every time)

Namor 5/10 (Ben and Namor is always a great fight but there is never a clear winner with one not getting back up)

Abomination 6/10 (I don't think Ben has ever fought Abom it would be a great fight)

Kurse 1/10 (Too much for Ben as they are for 90% of the rest of the list)

Mangog 1/10 (Too much for Ben as they are for 90% of the rest of the list)

Hercules 5/10 (A fight that could either way and has)

Iron Man h2h 6/10 (IM is faster and maybe stronger but Bens fighting skill and "heart" win the majority until Tony downloads past fights of Bens into his armor then it's 2/10)

THOR h2h 3/10 ( THOR is THOR he is outside of a dc crossover always a beast for the majority is too much for Ben)

Juggernaut (classic) 2/10 (People like to use that horrible waste of paper and ink and everyones money called SW as a ruler to what would happen if they truly fought I say BS. Juggernaut (classic) is too much for Ben for the majority but not once would it really ever be a 3 hit combo for the win... It would be a long fight)

Prof. HULK 7/10 (Ben has an advantage in every category except in strength if it goes for a long time of straight fighting but even with that Ben dominates him)

Atlas 8/10 (Ben has owned Atlas and will continue to do so)

Count Nafaria h2h 2/10 (The count would be too much for Ben for the majority)

Sentry h2h 2/10 (Sentry is too fast and too strong for the majority)

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Ben really isn't a top dog in Marvel anymore. Oh and thats a big NO to Abomination.

Re: Re: Can The Thing compete with top tier brawlers anymore?

Originally posted by Tony Stark

Namor 5/10 (Ben and Namor is always a great fight but there is never a clear winner with one not getting back up)

Yeah, there is. Namor.

He's already knocked out Ben at least three times.

One of the times happened on land, and all the times he knocked him out water, he still used only his strength.

Full power Namor will defeat Ben 9/10. He's far faster, stronger, better fighter, way more experienced, etc. Pretty much all advatanges are his.

Originally posted by sexyking

Every team needs a mascot, the only win i can see ben pulling is against she hulk and that in itself is a big maybe. 😉

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Thing stalemates Immortal Hercules..? 😕 😱 😆

Originally posted by Tony Stark
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I swear you guys don't know 1/2 of what you spew out on to your keyboards 99% of the time.

Where to start?

Ben will beat:

Colossus 7/10 (never really have fought love to see it Ben owned the skrull Colossus)

SHE-HULK 9/10 (Ben has owned SHE-HULK every time they have fought except the time Ben had a blood alcohol content of .40)

Savage HULK 3/10 (For the majority Savage is too much for Ben, As he is for 90% of the rest of the list)

Wonderman 7/10 (Ben has beaten Wonderman handily every time)

Namor 5/10 (Ben and Namor is always a great fight but there is never a clear winner with one not getting back up)

Abomination 6/10 (I don't think Ben has ever fought Abom it would be a great fight)

Kurse 1/10 (Too much for Ben as they are for 90% of the rest of the list)

Mangog 1/10 (Too much for Ben as they are for 90% of the rest of the list)

Hercules 5/10 (A fight that could either way and has)

Iron Man h2h 6/10 (IM is faster and maybe stronger but Bens fighting skill and "heart" win the majority until Tony downloads past fights of Bens into his armor then it's 2/10)

THOR h2h 3/10 ( THOR is THOR he is outside of a dc crossover always a beast for the majority is too much for Ben)

Juggernaut (classic) 2/10 (People like to use that horrible waste of paper and ink and everyones money called SW as a ruler to what would happen if they truly fought I say BS. Juggernaut (classic) is too much for Ben for the majority but not once would it really ever be a 3 hit combo for the win... It would be a long fight)

Prof. HULK 7/10 (Ben has an advantage in every category except in strength if it goes for a long time of straight fighting but even with that Ben dominates him)

Atlas 8/10 (Ben has owned Atlas and will continue to do so)

Count Nafaria h2h 2/10 (The count would be too much for Ben for the majority)

Sentry h2h 2/10 (Sentry is too fast and too strong for the majority)


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Originally posted by Jyppe
Thing stalemates Immortal Hercules..? 😕 😱 😆

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Where does it state that it's Immortal Hercules moron?

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Re: Re: Can The Thing compete with top tier brawlers anymore?

Originally posted by Tony Stark
Prof. HULK 7/10 (Ben has an advantage in every category except in strength if it goes for a long time of straight fighting but even with that Ben dominates him)

Thing has the advantage in speed and skill. That's it.

And here's a couple of their encounters:

FF #374:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Jonathanos/Merged1a.jpg

FF Unlimited #4:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Jonathanos/Merged2a.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Jonathanos/Merged2b.jpg

Thing does better in their fight at the end, but it was a staged fight. Mole Man had captured their allies in order to make them fight to the death. An invisible barrier around Hulk and Thing drained the energy they expended in the fight, which Mole Man wanted to use to save his beloved Kala.

At the end of the fight, the Hulk started walking off, saying he was done with the fight. When he got so far, he turned and both he and Thing shouted "NOW!"

They rammed into one another and the energy overloaded the field. Mole Man was like, "No! My field! Gone!" Hulk: "Fancy that!" Thing: "How DO these things happen?"

Originally posted by Tony Stark
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Where does it state that it's Immortal Hercules moron?

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The thread startter didn't specify what Hercules it is.. People here were talking about Spikey Thing, so I assumed it's the strongest incarnation of Hercules.

I have no idea wether current Hercules is immortal or not. He still posesses twice the base strength of Hulk, no..? (Abomination's strength)

I'm not sure what's ancient Herc's strength level, but it's not very high apparently.

Also, Hercules' skills are on a very high level.

Sentry h2h 2/10 (Sentry is too fast and too strong for the majority)

How does Thing get a win or 2 over Sentry? 😆

Prof. HULK 7/10 (Ben has an advantage in every category except in strength if it goes for a long time of straight fighting but even with that Ben dominates him)

😆 Hulk's stronger, lot smarter, and has a healing factor. Can't really say anything about speed. Durability and skills might go for Thing..

Savage HULK 3/10 (For the majority Savage is too much for Ben, As he is for 90% of the rest of the list)

How many times has Thing beat Savage Hulk? How's he taking 3 fights from 10?

Colossus 7/10 (never really have fought love to see it Ben owned the skrull Colossus)

7/10 on a fanboy scale..? If you think Thing owning a Colossus - Skrull is impressive, Colossus owned a Hulk - Skrull in a blow or two. Maybe it's a time for a Col. vs Thing thread again..?

Wow i saw Yony around but never realised he was such a big fanboy.

Originally posted by Draco69
I personally think Thing needs a strength upgrade. He's rapidly losing what used to be his territory as a Marvel powerhouse.

I agree. Ben gets no love from Marvel or KMC. 🙁

Edit: Tony Stark with some love for Ben! 😄

I'd like to see Ben's endurance and durability increase. A healing factor would be nice since Marvel seems to hand them out so freely.

Re: Re: Can The Thing compete with top tier brawlers anymore?

Originally posted by Tony Stark
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Funny you should post that scan, as here is Thing admiting Sasquatch is stronger

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/72652_vgrim3.jpg

Battling exo-suit Thing:
1. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AF94.jpg
2. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AF942.jpg
3. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AF943.jpg

Damn all this thread has shown is how underrated Ben is on these forums 🙁

Seriously do people even go to the Thing respect thread?!? 🤨

Re: Re: Re: Can The Thing compete with top tier brawlers anymore?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Funny you should post that scan, as here is Thing admiting Sasquatch is stronger

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/72652_vgrim3.jpg

Battling exo-suit Thing:
1. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AF94.jpg
2. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AF942.jpg
3. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AF943.jpg

Exo-Suit Thing was crap, he was in Luke Cage strength levels.

Honestly they should be about even in strength, but overall Sasquatch would be a BIT stronger. Still that was easily one of my favirote comics ever 😄