Originally posted by Horrificus
Since an abstract is more of a "concept", it makes sense that, for instance, if Enternity, Death or Galactus are destroyed, it would mean the end of the universe. Because that would mean that a basic component of the universe is gone. It should all fall.
If Eternity dies, it's definitely the end of that specific Universe that was Eternity.
If Galactus dies, a Universe will slowly fold/collapse, but much more threatening than that,
If Big G dies, then Abraxas will manifest, and that's the end of a Multi-verse.
Death died once, the Universe didn't die, but the balance was out of order, (this would have caused great problems down the road though)
Originally posted by Horrificus
As far as the kronos thing goes, he had power, yeah. And, may even have been a God of Titan, but, he was not a Universal Abstract of Time.
I mean, the guys was stuck in our solar system, fading.
He had no time powers until recently.
Nah dude,
He wasn't even part of this Universe,
Where did you get that "in a Galaxy stuck info"
Originally posted by bigbran
Any skyfather vs someone on Eternity's level, would get there bumhole cleaned out, and then ripped apart.
Eternity is not the only abstact. and the thread says low tier abstract. Now ARes was very high tier abstract in power when he had the God wave. It is one of the most powerful forces in the DCU. Darkseid effective hardened time and space around ares. Does this put Darkseid beyond sky father power? becuz no other sky father could do that. Takion, who many consider high tier sky father, would actually be beyond that, since he effectively halted ares rampage for a time, while ares fought against him. Of course Takion had a direct connection to the source. What is there linking sky father and abstract. cuz on these boards, it seems that every one is either abstract or sky father, but there are clearly beings, like darkseid, takion, tyrant, who are beyond skyfather lvl.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Maelstrom was only able to kill the M-body of Anomaly because he had a portion of Oblivion's power, added to his own.
I'm only clearing up the fact that Maelstrom did not kill the real Anomaly.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Anomaly was able to later recreate himself in the M Universe.
Actually Anomaly didn't have to do anything, since the real Anomaly suffered no damage at the hands of Maelstrom, and the Anomaly has never died.
Originally posted by Horrificus
But, his M body was killed in the universe.
Which is a portion of what the Anomaly trully is.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So you mean to tell me, the God wave, the very abstract thing that powers every single God and super powered being ever in the dcu, is not abstract in power even tho, it itself is abstract?
That does not matter. It doesn't mean that he represented a specific universal element. Even if you utilize something, and have mastery over it, you don't just become an abstract.
The guys have to actually BE the thing for which they will be labeled an abstract.
The Godwave is not a pillar of universal reality. It isn't like "Light", or "Heat" or "Size", etc.
Originally posted by Horrificus
That does not matter. It doesn't mean that he represented a specific universal element. Even if you utilize something, and have mastery over it, you don't just become an abstract.The guys have to actually BE the thing for which they will be labeled an abstract.
The Godwave is not a pillar of universal reality. It isn't like "Light", or "Heat" or "Size", etc.
What are you talking about? Heat is not abstract. Neither is light. these are tangible things. abstacts means something that is an idea of something. Love is abstract. hate is abstract. dream is abstract. For the sake of the thread, I said Ares had high tier abstract power. the God wave is one of the mighties abstract things in the DCU.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
can you touch space or time? can you see them? then they are definitely abstract.
This is right out of my philosophy dictionary:
"For examples, properties, relations, propositions and mathematical objects are commonly considered as abstract entities. "
Right?
But, YOU are wrong.
Godwave is a "thing" that actually touches and interacts with reality. It exists. A type of power. Now, if he embodied "Power", period, that would be different.
I am right.
Heat and Cold are measurements. Light is an effect. A perspective. Light is not the same for everything everywhere.
More to come if needed.
Originally posted by Horrificus
This is right out of my philosophy dictionary:"For examples, properties, relations, propositions and mathematical objects are commonly considered as abstract entities. "
Right?
But, YOU are wrong.
Godwave is a "thing" that actually touches and interacts with reality. It exists. A type of power. Now, if he embodied "Power", period, that would be different.
I am right.
Heat and Cold are measurements. Light is an effect. A perspective. Light is not the same for everything everywhere.
More to come if needed.
Light is not a damn effect. Light is part wave, part particle. Thanks. Color is the effect of light. The God wave was not a thing. Not in the way that you are making it. It was an abstract that touched the universe. kinda how like Death touches the universe. Did you read the story with the God wave in it?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Light is not a damn effect. Light is part wave, part particle. Thanks. The God wave was not a thing. Not in the way that you are making it. It was an abstract that touched the universe. kinda how like Death touches the universe. Did you read the story with the God wave in it?
the dc godwave is directly from the source, also Ares as Draco has stated before can effortlessly create universes and black holes and such.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Light is not a damn effect. Light is part wave, part particle. Thanks. Color is the effect of light. The God wave was not a thing. Not in the way that you are making it. It was an abstract that touched the universe. kinda how like Death touches the universe. Did you read the story with the God wave in it?
Yes, by definition, it is a wave. But, as viewed by a person, they are not looking at a wave. They are seeing the effect of light. THAT is what I am talking about. The revealing.
Changes to the wave creates a shift in spectrum, which effects what is seen, and how. The type of light, color, etc.
It has many different incarnations. I am talking about light in non-specifics.
And, the Godwave IS a specific. It is a type of power. Like, Gamma Rays for instance.
