From 9/11 to 'The War on Terror': The tragedy multiplies...

People who do not know a lot about the history of the middle east, or the background regarding relations and policy, are the ones who will blindly accept that Iraq has weapons of mass distruction.

Another thing which bothers me a lot is that Saddam Hussein is demonised over the top. Americans claim he is the monster of the monsters, yet they are the ones who put him into government.

So...what that should indicate is that even if America 'liberate' Iraq and put someone else in power, they are bound to turn nasty, since it seems to follow that trend - Taliban, Saddam Hussein..

we allowed the taliban to take control of afghanistan, just as we will allow fundamentalist nutcases to take control of iraq when our resources are depleted and we inevitably pull out with no goals met (as if there are any goals to meet besides "stay the coarse".) then i fear we will lament the loss of hussein, considering the eventual replacement. get ready for taliban: part 2 electric boogaloo

Originally posted by PVS
get ready for taliban: part 2 electric boogaloo

At least sequels are never usually as good as their predecessors.

godfather 2

i win

ESB. 😛

I win.

I said "usually". You both lose.

Originally posted by PVS
we allowed the taliban to take control of afghanistan, just as we will allow fundamentalist nutcases to take control of iraq when our resources are depleted and we inevitably pull out with no goals met (as if there are any goals to meet besides "stay the coarse".) then i fear we will lament the loss of hussein, considering the eventual replacement. get ready for taliban: part 2 electric boogaloo

Having that in mind it makes you wonder if the middle east will ever sort out.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Having that in mind it makes you wonder if the middle east will ever sort out.

Only way the Middle East will be at peace is(if) when the oil runs out and nobody cares anymore about that region.

Originally posted by Robtard
Only way the Middle East will be at peace is(if) when the oil runs out and nobody cares anymore about that region.

There was strife and conflict in that region long before oil was a commodity and I fear that it may always be that way. As for "that religion"...that religion and every other one has been a tinderbox of conflict, and nothing will change that.

dude...he said "region" 😂

Originally posted by PVS
dude...he said "region" 😂

And that makes me "illiterate tool of the day". 😱

Cut me some slack here, I'm sick as a dog...and my point was a good one. 😕

Originally posted by KharmaDog
And that makes me "illiterate tool of the day". 😱

hands off the trophy...the day is young

Originally posted by KharmaDog
And that makes me "illiterate tool of the day". 😱

Cut me some slack here, I'm sick as a dog...and my point was a good one. 😕

His joke must have gone over my head... A 'region' can be an area of land... So???

Originally posted by Robtard
His joke must have gone over my head... A 'region' can be an area of land... So???

I mistook the word "region" for the word "religion".

Hence the joking.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
I mistook the word "region" for the word "religion".

Hence the joking.

I got it now,my bad, I did not notice the quotes, I thought you were just going on your own thing with the religion aspect of your post.

I will NOT watch any of, nor did watch any of that tragedy.........I will not relive it again.........we must move on.

Originally posted by debbiejo
I will NOT watch any of, nor did watch any of that tragedy.........I will not relive it again.........we must move on.

How does that saying go? 'If you do not remember your past mistakes, you are doomed to repeat them'. Or something like that.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Everyone takes note of a the secondary cause rather than first cause of what is happening in the world post 9-11. What really trigger this whole change in the world? A few extremeist that took it upon themselves to commit an act of terrorism agaisn't a powerful nation. Even if the War in Iraq is wrong. There was bound to be a reaction. This entire reaction would have been avoid it all completely if those extremeists would have chosen other means than terrorism to make their beliefs public. When people say it's the Americans fault it's just another example of trying to pass GO and collect without rolling the dice.

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Obviously, 9/11 changed the United States, but what has really changed the world has been the erroneous US response to September 11, especially the war in Iraq.

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Of course, I am fully aware that 'The War on Terror' is the response to 9/11, but my argument is that it is the wrong one.

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Another fallacy of the US response is that it somehow believes (publicly, at least) that by bombing all the reproachable countries it will somehow decrease the breeding of terrorists! Hahaha...explain that one to me again! It is precisely this sort of behavior by the US that has been a factor in the creation of the problem in the first place!

Now to this:

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
No matter how far back in history you want to go. They still chose to commit acts of terrorism. They chose to fight. That's the key point. Had they chosen other means I'm sure we would not be in this mess right now.

It would help if you had a greater understanding of the discussion you are taking part in.

Originally posted by Soleran
Whats an acceptable amount of loss when putting terrorist acts into the equation?

Are you talking about both sides? The US is fighting 'The War on Terror', and the Islamic fundamentalists are fighting the US. I don't see much difference between what the US is doing, and what the other group is doing. They are both creating an atmosphere of terror in the world.

did anyone catch the presedential address on TV last night? pretty boring.

Bush basically just said the war is not over and will not be over until either side is victorious, and if we were to pull out now that the terrorists would follow us. basically just a bunch of bush rabble.

The War on Terror: the stupidest thing.....ever. first of all, at least call it something different. Terror and terrorism isn't a group of ppl you can defeat it's an idea, a philosophy, you can't fight a war on idea or a philosophy........there's terrorism going on here in the US.

the government is using 9/11 as a ploy to get more ppl in the military. i mean, first of all, the raised the max age, lowered the physical and academic requirements, and decided to take advantage of the whole immigration problem by providing an easier path to citizenship for any foreign people who join our military. also their were military recruiteres at my school today......the day after 9/11....coincidence? my friend made signs and hand outs opposing the war and all of that jazz and set up a table right next to the recruiters, but was shut down because he "didn't have a permit..."

yeah, whatever

Originally posted by fruits
did anyone catch the presedential address on TV last night? pretty boring.

Bush basically just said the war is not over and will not be over until either side is victorious, and if we were to pull out now that the terrorists would follow us. basically just a bunch of bush rabble.

The War on Terror: the stupidest thing.....ever. first of all,

First, you forget the war on drugs.

Second, there is no such thing as a war that doesn't end until one side admits defeat. That's kind of the point of war.

Third, how could you miss his address, it was on every basic cable channel in the country? Even people with a coat hanger and tin foil saw it. Which should tell you something.