Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Nope? Nope! What is this a Spider-man thread? 😄
Pfft... you wish... 😛
"Nope" because he seems to think that:
Originally posted by Wolverine2006
It doesnt matter how much prep he gets Wolverine wins
Which is, frankly, one of the dumbest things I've heard on KMC..... Give Hawkeye as much prep as he wants and he can take down almost anybody
In this thread, however, I'm actually kinda torn between the two, I know what both are capable of and I've been reading about both of them for years.... I think it could go either way
Originally posted by Scoobless
Pfft... you wish... 😛"Nope" because he seems to think that:
Which is, frankly, one of the dumbest things I've heard on KMC..... Give Hawkeye as much prep as he wants and he can take down almost anybody
In this thread, however, I'm actually kinda torn between the two, I know what both are capable of and I've been reading about both of them for years.... I think it could go either way
Hehe. I was just messing with but ya...
Originally posted by Wolverine2006
It doesnt matter how much prep he gets Wolverine wins
... equals pure stupidity.
Originally posted by Rols
Wolverine should take this fight specially if you gave him prep time.. Ohh and classic Logan heald from just a singled cells..Lol, also forgot to mention Wolverines tracking ability..
The so called "Classic Wolverine" that every likes to talk about took a head on blast from Firelord, shrugged of Colossus strongest hit like a love tap, with stood a full on assault from the entire X-Men and wreaked a demon who walked all over the X-Men on his own... and he hadn't even had a healing factor written into his character yet. 🙄
It's like someone Wolverine Hater posted "Wolverine's was never written like this in the old days" and every other Wolverine hater was like "well... that guy seems to know what he is talking about" and everyone just excepted it as true. Now everyone throws around "Classic Wolverine" and "I remember when..." I guess to those people I need to ask: does it bother you that you have no idea what you are talking about? Sure there are low end feats like when he was slabbed by Juggernaut but there are even more high end feats, like when he decked Rogue and sent here flying through a wall with his brute strength alone. No matter how you Wolverine nay sayers want to believe it classic Wolverine wasn't much different then his current incarnation. Unless you are referring to the period where his healing factor was written to be in a massive slump because Claremont was building up to something similar to enemy of the state (but never got to it)... but even then he beat Gambit in hand to hand and beat Deathbird in hand to hand even though it was down right stated he was a shadow of his former self being kept alive by nothing but his own will power. Is that the Wolverine you guys remember so fondly? When his powers where written at an all time low (up to that point anyway but they've been lower since). Classic Wolverine my ass.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The so called "Classic Wolverine" that every likes to talk about took a head on blast from Firelord, shrugged of Colossus strongest hit like a love tap, with stood a full on assault from the entire X-Men and wreaked a demon who walked all over the X-Men on his own... and he hadn't even had a healing factor written into his character yet. 🙄It's like someone Wolverine Hater posted "Wolverine's was never written like this in the old days" and every other Wolverine hater was like "well... that guy seems to know what he is talking about" and everyone just excepted it as true. Now everyone throws around "Classic Wolverine" and "I remember when..." I guess to those people I need to ask: does it bother you that you have no idea what you are talking about? Sure there are low end feats like when he was slabbed by Juggernaut but there are even more high end feats, like when he decked Rogue and sent here flying through a wall with his brute strength alone. No matter how you Wolverine nay sayers want to believe it classic Wolverine wasn't much different then his current incarnation. Unless you are referring to the period where his healing factor was written to be in a massive slump because Claremont was building up to something similar to enemy of the state (but never got to it)... but even then he beat Gambit in hand to hand and beat Deathbird in hand to hand even though it was down right stated he was a shadow of his former self being kept alive by nothing but his own will power. Is that the Wolverine you guys remember so fondly? When his powers where written at an all time low (up to that point anyway but they've been lower since). Classic Wolverine my ass.
So you're saying......... Hawkeye wins.... hawkeye>>>wolverine
😄
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Whats he going to do? Spin around in a circle. Fact is no matter what he does does his flank will always be exposed. And then you need consider that Clint isn't going to stand out in the open until he knows who he is dealing with. For all he knows he is up against Iron Man or even Thor and standing out in the open wont be in his favor. Even then (assuming he meets Wolverine in a open field with... 50 feet between them) how many arrows do you think he can fire before Wolverine covers the gap? One maybe two? What are the chances he will have his most powerful arrow notched from the get go? Wolverine, who has out races wild Mustangs on foot (and this for prolonged periods of time), is certain to have one hell of a sprint... suffice to say he will cover an gap in a moments notice. Or being an experienced hunter and trapper he could always go more subtle and take a hit near the tree line or some brush and then when Hawkeye comes into finish him of he his attacked from behind... or he Wolverine does the same thing he did to Zartan and lures him with a trail of his own blood into a trap and then woops him in h2h.And who can say what to limits of Wolverine's stealth is? This a comic book after all. He did disappear while Nightcrawlers eyes were locked right onto him any way I'm sure someone with Wolverine's skill could stay out of Clints proifarul vision.
...One...or two arrows... 🤨
This is Hawkeye. Not a boyscout with a NERF bow-and-arrow.
And why is it just assumed that Wolverine will find him first? Sure, ninja training is great and all. But you're giving Wolvie all the advantages. You don't find it possible that Clint could spot Wolverine before he does the same?
Wolverine doesn't know who he's fighting either. He could be going up against Walrus Man for all he knows. Maybe he'd be trying to get it over with quickly.
You can't just make assumptions like that. Nor can I.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The so called "Classic Wolverine" that every likes to talk about took a head on blast from Firelord, shrugged of Colossus strongest hit like a love tap, with stood a full on assault from the entire X-Men and wreaked a demon who walked all over the X-Men on his own... and he hadn't even had a healing factor written into his character yet. 🙄It's like someone Wolverine Hater posted "Wolverine's was never written like this in the old days" and every other Wolverine hater was like "well... that guy seems to know what he is talking about" and everyone just excepted it as true. Now everyone throws around "Classic Wolverine" and "I remember when..." I guess to those people I need to ask: does it bother you that you have no idea what you are talking about? Sure there are low end feats like when he was slabbed by Juggernaut but there are even more high end feats, like when he decked Rogue and sent here flying through a wall with his brute strength alone. No matter how you Wolverine nay sayers want to believe it classic Wolverine wasn't much different then his current incarnation. Unless you are referring to the period where his healing factor was written to be in a massive slump because Claremont was building up to something similar to enemy of the state (but never got to it)... but even then he beat Gambit in hand to hand and beat Deathbird in hand to hand even though it was down right stated he was a shadow of his former self being kept alive by nothing but his own will power. Is that the Wolverine you guys remember so fondly? When his powers where written at an all time low (up to that point anyway but they've been lower since). Classic Wolverine my ass.
Oh don't try that. Wolverine, whether publicly known or not, has always had the healing factor. So don't make it sound like he was just that durable.
Colossus's strongest hit? I seem to recall him doing everything in his power to pull that punch as much as possible when he realized he was about to hit Wolverine.
Anyway, I digress.
Hawkeye wins the majority.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
...One...or two arrows... 🤨This is Hawkeye. Not a boyscout with a NERF bow-and-arrow.
And why is it just assumed that Wolverine will find him first? Sure, ninja training is great and all. But you're giving Wolvie all the advantages. You don't find it possible that Clint could spot Wolverine before he does the same?
Wolverine doesn't know who he's fighting either. He could be going up against Walrus Man for all he knows. Maybe he'd be trying to get it over with quickly.
You can't just make assumptions like that. Nor can I.
One or two arrows isn't an insult but it is only thanks to emense skill that even gets that. Wolverine has speed blitzed countless armed men and has even danced through gattling gun fire. Clint has to reach his quiver, notch a arrow, sight it and then fire unless we assume Wolverine is standing their then two is a reasonable number assuming he has one notched when he spots Wolverine.
Anyway they are alone in the city. There are going to be two human scents: Wolverine's and Clints. He will know who is fighting as soon as the bell rings and it would be a simple task from Wolverine to track Clint by even if the city was full of people. How does Wolverine not find Clint first? Some people may like to take a leap of faith and assume that the best hunter/tracker/ninja/special ops agent in Marvel is having an off day and Clint gets the drop on him but I think that is a bit of stretch to say the least.