Originally posted by srankmissingnin
She phases through adamantium, it's stuns her causing her to lose concentration and return to her corporal form where Wolverine finishers her off? Not to mention it was stated that Kitty needs to keep her legs in phase when she attacks so she gets leverage another fact that Wolverine would exploit. And then all forum fights are in character with CIS still on which puts her at and even bigger disadvantage.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
How about Kitty loses concentration and becomes tangible but she passes out and remains in tangible? Both have happened before. Just because you choose the one best suited to your argument doesn't make the other any less likely or relevant.CIS turned on and characters fight in character by default with standard forum rules. Even with blood lust on she won't do anything to potentially killed Wolverine as it is out of character. If you want to argue that some sort of assassin with Shadowcats powers could beat Wolverine then go a head but Kitty her self will lose.
Originally posted by Psyquis52
If Bloodlust is on then Shadowcat allows him to merge with the ground and there's no more Wolverine to worry about.
Originally posted by darthgooberHuh.
That is possibly true. But sad to say, it's not really going to be that easy for her to do that. Adamantium DOES affect Kitty when she's intangible(don't blame me, blame Marvel). Adamantium is so dense, it causes her immense pain when it passes through her phased form. And even though her natural state is one of intangibility, for some reason she stays solid when stunned from this(once again, don't blame me, it's Marvels fault). Now Wolverine pisses me off as much as he does the next guy, but he does have plenty of speed and agility feats, that aren't BS(though many ARE), and since to my knowledge she can't see through things that she's passing through(correct me if I'm wrong though), she's going to have a hard time getting ahold of Wolverine by phasing through the ground and then coming up from underneath to grab him. So truth be told this fight could go either way. Damn it, I HATE defending Wolverine!
Wasn't aware of that.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Originally posted by xmarksthespotWhat is it called when something goes against a character's established abilities and lowers their abilities? I forget.
Shadowcat can and will kill if necessary even under CIS.Intangibility is her natural state, she is tangible by force of will and being intangible when unconscious is congruous with this. While having sex with Colossus she lost herself momentarily and fell through the floor - again congruous with intangibility being her natural state.
What isn't congruous with this is that phasing through adamantium will force her to become tangible. When she phased through X23 she felt pain (which in itself is stupid considering she can phase a city levelling blast, and a nuclear explosion at the epicentre) but had she become tangible the two would have fused killing them instantly.
Generally when bloodlust is additionally specified characters do whatever is in their ability to win. Cyclops will use his wide high-powered blast on Daredevil, Psylocke will tear Spider-Man limb from limb with telekinesis, and Shadowcat will phase Wolverine into the ground killing him instantly.
Originally posted by darthgoober
That is possibly true. But sad to say, it's not really going to be that easy for her to do that. Adamantium DOES affect Kitty when she's intangible(don't blame me, blame Marvel). Adamantium is so dense, it causes her immense pain when it passes through her phased form. And even though her natural state is one of intangibility, for some reason she stays solid when stunned from this(once again, don't blame me, it's Marvels fault). Now Wolverine pisses me off as much as he does the next guy, but he does have plenty of speed and agility feats, that aren't BS(though many ARE), and since to my knowledge she can't see through things that she's passing through(correct me if I'm wrong though), she's going to have a hard time getting ahold of Wolverine by phasing through the ground and then coming up from underneath to grab him. So truth be told this fight could go either way. Damn it, I HATE defending Wolverine!
Although I don't deny that the adamantium causes pain (yea, that makes sense 🙄 ), pain does NOT equal defeat.
Comic characters fight through pain all the time. Immense or not, Kitty can continue fighting even while in immense pain. She can phase her hand into his chest or his head and pull out either his heart or his brain.
Or both.
She wins everytime. And then all the times everyone else has lost. Times 100. Plus 2.
Originally posted by Psyquis52
Huh.Wasn't aware of that.
Originally posted by darthgooberWell I never said that!
Hey, I never said that it could never happen(after all, it only hurts when she phases THROUGH the stuff), I just said that it could actually go either way. 10/10 seems rather unrealistic.
Goodness no.
Actually I haven't given any win ratio because I'm still uncertain as to exactly how many wins she pulls off.