Originally posted by Draco69
CBR debates logically using science, high-end feats and common sense.The hate for Captain America is not apparent from what I've seen. Biggest threads usually include him. One popular one I remember is Cap vs. Cassandra Cain.
Spider-Man? No, not really. They know who he can win against.
I like logical forums using high-end feats rather than the "A beat B so he can beat C" logic with SHC....
Comparing high-end feats is not logical. Very rarely do they indicate the true relative power level of the characters.
Thing doesn't have lifting feats that approach the high-end feats of many of the top tier yet he IS able to hold his own in battle with them so clearly they're not as far beyond him as a comparison of feats suggests.
Spider-Man has put a hurting on or even beaten many characters who are near top tier yet CBR will not accept that Spider-Man is able to do it. There's a rule named after him for the express purpose of ignoring that he has done it many times.
Captain America has dodged bullets but they will not accept it.
ABC isn't concrete logic on SHC because ABC can mislead a person by not taking into account character. Using ABC logic, one (who hasn't seen Hulk vs. Surfer fights) might think:
A. Thor has beaten Surfer.
B. Hulk fights Thor to a standstill.
C. Hulk beats Surfer.
Nope. Thor fights Hulk on his terms due to Thor's pride. Thor tosses in some lightning and ranged hammer shots but little else. Thor is able to beat Surfer because he has the versatility to do so. OTOH, Surfer doesn't fight Hulk the way Thor fights.