Originally posted by No End N Site
Okay, I see what'ya mean about the Bob thing. My PC was kinda slow and choppy so it didn't show Bobs head move but then I just turned on the game and watched it and seen it for myself. That still doesn't compare at all to what Ryu was doin'. He dodged several bullets from only feet away while moving towards his foe quite easily. And the creators have already stated that how Ryu fought in the Alpha movie is how he fights outside the game. Not to mention that Ryu doesn't even need to dodge bullets, they bounce off his face.It is A>B>C logic to assume that Jin is faster than Bob. There is no evidence of this. And you guys need to stop usin' ASSUMED "tiers" to judge characters and go by the facts. Bob is one of the fastest characters in the game. Only a few have the feats to match what Bob did and Jin is not one of them.
This also shows that you don't have adequate knowledge of SF to form an argument against it, Ryu got shot in the face several times and the bullets just bounced off. He would not have gotten a "hole in his head". Bullets have no affect.
Bryan Fury never lifted anything close to the boulders that Ryu lifted. Pieces of a tank are not as large as boulders. And Jin IS NOT as strong as Fury. Feng Wei's ending only shows what MIGHT happen IF he knows the meaning of what's in "God Fist" scroll. Just like T5 showed what MIGHT happen IF he got his hands on the scroll, and in T6 we find out that he did, but it really didn't tell him anything, making his T5 endin' just some ridiculous nonexistent event. Not to mention that if he does find the info he needs for the "God Fist" scroll, he would be the strongest Tekken character.
Jin has never caused more destruction than Ryu, and you sayin' this stuff wit out providin' any evidence truly takes away from my will to continue this. A single Hadouken from a serious Ryu will obliterate Jin completely. Ryu's Hadoukens have actual feats. And you keep makin' it sound like this 'force field' can withstand anything. When it comes up against somthin' that can incinerate people, blow up secret basses and ruin buildings. Then I'll think it has any use in this fight.
And yet and still you make very ridiculous claims wit out providin' any evidence. You assume that Jin's weak lil TK powers will work on everyone. When you can show me when Jin used TK against anyone powerful or capable of fightin' back, I may take your claims seriously. Until then Ryu stomps D.Jin and crushes regular Jin. You say I'm underestimating Tekken when you are clearly underestimatin' those from SF.
Like oh man, Ryu has never fought cats wit TK before.
Ive seen the movie, it was impresive but honsetly nothing Jin couldnt do. Have you seen Lars dodging bullets, imo that was even more impressive. And bullets only bounce off his face when he's chi charged. Like releasing energy. When D Jin releasing his energy he wiped out a forest, what's deflecting a bullet compared to that. Imo in normal state they'd stil hurt him Ryu, hence he was dodging them instead of just standing. Also Jin's been shot in weakened state, the bulets didnt even leave a mark on him.
Ok, fair point. That's an A?B?C logic, but how else are we supposed to judge about character's speed if he never HAD to dodge the bullets in the games? We know Kazuya dodged bullets, we know Lars did it, we know Heihachi cought a bullet with his teeth, and we also know Jin beat all of them 1 on 1 and is definitely no slower than them. May be it's an ABC logic but not the bad kind, you have to admit it makes sense to assume he has comparable speed to Lars, who dodges bullets as easy as Ryu.
I do and ive seen the movie. All of them actually. It was a charged up Ryu, in his normal state bullets would hurt him, that's the reason why he had to dodge them in the first place. And a point blank shot in Jin's head didn't even leave a mark on him.
Bryan tossed that chunk over a 100 feet, that makes it even more impressive than just lifting a boulder. And no, Feng Wei's tekken 6 ending is canon. It has nothing to do with the scrolls. His tekken 5 ending showed what WOULD'VE happened if he found the scrolls while his tekken 6 ending was a random showing of his training, nowhere it's said that he used anything other than his power. It's canon. And it's not just that, have you seen Asuka display her punching strength? Paul colliding fists with Bryan and causing the whole place to explode? Heihachi tossing huge armored robot-tanks like ragdolls? Or Jin and Kazuya almost demolishing a building simply by throwing punches that DIDN'T even connect. Comparing to all that Ryu lifting a boulder seems like nothing special.
You didn't read my post correctly, I said more destruction thatn any Ryu's punch/kick hadouken isn't a punch nor a kick, I was talking about h2h ONLY and Jin's showing in that is more impressive than Ryu's. That's why I said Jin can definitely stalemate Ryu h2h
His forcefield withstood continued blasts from Azazel, the same kind of blasts that Jin himself used to level down a building. And Jin's forcefield withstood all of them with ease. Saying that Ryu's attacks for some reason will do better is a speculation that isn't backed up with any evidence. And im not understimating SF, you're overstimating SF. You want evidence that TK will work on Ryu? Why? Is there a reason to think that Ryu is tk proof? No. So nothing suggests it wont work. We know Ryu can't do anything to get passed Jin's shield and we know Jin can attack Ryu at distance using tk. All we really need to know. You'll have to come up with a reasonable explanation for why this basic tactic for Devil wont work, until then im convinced that Devil stomps Ryu, while Jin can stalemate him h2h no problem and even win some going by the fact that his non distant attacks are more impressive than Ryu's. It just seems to me you have issues. You hate the idea of tekken chars being more than a match for SF chars (but it's a fact. nothing wrong with it) so you're trying to downplay their feats and demanding proofs of things that are basic knowledge in tekken.