HOM Scarlet Witch & Amazo v.s. This JLA

Wanda made Hawkeye in HoM. She made the walking plot device that is Layla Miller. She made Layla Miller perchance to meet Hawkeye and the human resistance and give them their memories of the reality that existed before she remade it to suit her. She didn't lose in HoM she engineered her own defeat. And even then she wasn't really defeated.

One can easily extrapolate that she's as much one with reality lego as Iceman is one with water - she can make and animate "reality Wandas" in the same manner that he can make Icemen. Kick down her sandcastle and she can likely just build a new one.

They seemed to want to make her akin to a modern Jaspers except not evil. And Jaspers would beat this JLA.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Wanda made Hawkeye in HoM. She made the walking plot device that is Layla Miller. She made Layla Miller perchance to meet Hawkeye and the human resistance and give them their memories of the reality that existed before she remade it to suit her. She didn't lose in HoM she engineered her own defeat. And even then she wasn't really defeated.

One can easily extrapolate that she's as much one with reality lego as Iceman is one with water - she can make and animate "reality Wandas" in the same manner that he can make Icemen. Kick down her sandcastle and she can likely just build a new one.

They seemed to want to make her akin to a modern Jaspers except not evil. And Jaspers would beat this JLA.

Good points...as always..X... the sand castle analogy is quite appropriate...she and Hawkeye are returning so we'll just have to wait and see how they're going to fix the witch...she probably depowered herself....

Wish I had Lego powers... 🙁

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Wanda made Hawkeye in HoM. She made the walking plot device that is Layla Miller. She made Layla Miller perchance to meet Hawkeye and the human resistance and give them their memories of the reality that existed before she remade it to suit her. She didn't lose in HoM she engineered her own defeat. And even then she wasn't really defeated.

One can easily extrapolate that she's as much one with reality lego as Iceman is one with water - she can make and animate "reality Wandas" in the same manner that he can make Icemen. Kick down her sandcastle and she can likely just build a new one.

They seemed to want to make her akin to a modern Jaspers except not evil. And Jaspers would beat this JLA.

Flash beats the shit out of wanda in 0,00000000000000000001 sec

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Flash beats the shit out of wanda in 0,00000000000000000001 sec

Originally posted by galan7777777
yeah, wanda is powerful, but she has to think before she uses her powers, and though that dosent take long, the flash could have hit her hundreds of times before she could get a thought out, and then she's out of the battle via KO

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
no you are wrong not hundredrs of time but millions of times

Umm...assuming Wandas durability isn't all that and a packet of chips...Amazo can still grab Wanda at the beginning of the fight...and play keep away until she has enough time to manifest a thought...which means bye bye JLA...

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Umm...assuming Wandas durability isn't all that and a packet of chips...Amazo can still grab Wanda at the beginning of the fight...and play keep away until she has enough time to manifest a thought...which means bye bye JLA...

Originally posted by galan7777777
but say orion uses motherbox to beat amazo right from the get go, while flash speedblitzes wanda

Can the JLA KO an Amazo with all their abilities in less then 0.01seconds?

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Can the JLA KO an Amazo with all their abilities in less then 0.01seconds?

JLA takes this easily. Flash > an arrow to the back.

Originally posted by galan7777777
thats where the real debate is, because amazo has flashes speed, but dosent possess the speed formula.....all he needs to do is say the formula, and time stops around him, and though this may not affect wanda because of her reality powers, wally could still KO her very quickly

Well then...can an Amazo with the Flashes speed + The rest of his absorbed abilities(He has duplicated the powers of a GL ring)...KO Flash before he is able to recite the Speed Formula and grab Wanda similtaneously or after that...

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Well then...can an Amazo with the Flashes speed + The rest of his absorbed abilities(He has duplicated the powers of a GL ring)...KO Flash before he is able to recite the Speed Formula and grab Wanda after that...

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If you think about it, all Amazo has to do, is create a protective force field around the two of them, long enough for Wanda to work. He doesn't even need to distract them, just keep Flash and the rest away.

Also, from what I've seen, Wanda doesn't need conscious thought to use her power, it seems to respond more to her wants at the moment. So if she goes into the fight aware and wanting to win, then as soon as the bell rings her power will activate, whether she has time to think about it or not(but I could be wrong about that part).

Originally posted by galan7777777
no flash is much faster then a GL ring, because GL rings work on the principle of thought and will power, and the speed of thought probably couldnt catch the flash.... heres something you always hear people talking about in reference to the flash but no one ever shows any scans of it, this is flash saving the entire population from a nuclear explosion by carrying 1-2 people (532,000 people to be exact) at once sending them 35 miles in and out away from the city (70 miles together) in 0.0001 seconds:

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I know that..but Amazo has Flashes powers meaning their thought processing is the same...which means Amazo's powers work at the Flashes speed of thought....also doesn't he have MM's telepathy too...Flash Reflexes + Telepathy = deadly combo...

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I know that..but Amazo has Flashes powers meaning their thought processing is the same...which means Amazo's powers work at the Flashes speed of thought....also doesn't he have MM's telepathy too...Flash Reflexes + Telepathy = deadly combo...

Originally posted by galan7777777
agreed, but telepathy would be of no concern if time itself was stopped

But he has to recite the formula to make time stop...and since their thought processing is the same...it comes down to...

Which is quicker...

Person who mindrapes via telepathy...or Person who recites words.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
But he has to recite the formula to make time stop...and since their thought processing is the same...it comes down to...

Which is quicker...

Human who mindrapes via telepathy...or Person who recites words.

Originally posted by darthgoober
If you think about it, all Amazo has to do, is create a protective force field around the two of them, long enough for Wanda to work. He doesn't even need to distract them, just keep Flash and the rest away.

Also, from what I've seen, Wanda doesn't need conscious thought to use her power, it seems to respond more to her wants at the moment. So if she goes into the fight aware and wanting to win, then as soon as the bell rings her power will activate, whether she has time to think about it or not(but I could be wrong about that part).