Originally posted by Soujaboy
Im not sure if all Thor's power are magic either? Yes the hammer is mystical enchantments placed on it, but does that mean the his every attack is magic based? is the lightning he summons magic based?
Werent you arguing in the Superman versus Thor thread that his lighning is magic based?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Now why do you suppose That is? Maybe becuz he's the flag ship hero? IF he was stronger than her, as you proclaim, THen How come when he thought she was DOOMSDAY WHO KILLED LOIS, he didn't punch her into powder? He had just lost the love of his Life. WW wasn't even Combating him in bloodlust like he was her, and yet she lived? And they both came away very injured? Is that the kind of feats Ur talking about? Or How she and Him lifted the Spectre? The weight of the concious of the Cosmos? Seems like DC is going thru Great Lengths to show her in comparison to him in the strength Dept. What do you think? Superman has never had it as tuff battling any other hero like Diana. He always comes away very worn for the wear.
Chi Town representin... 😎 . And I agree with you and Avalon, this fight is a lot closer than some here would admit. I LOVE Thor,but he doesn't run all over Diana. Both fighting bloodlust Thor wins 6/10 because of Mjolnir.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Let's Look at the Match upStrength= Even or Nearly Even ( Unless you can somehow conclusively say she is weaker than any of the top tiers.Which no one can. ONly speculation and obvious hateration. )
Dmg Resistance= Thor has a High Dmg resistance to Bulletns and Stuff Like that. Diana Has the Higher resistance to Blocking with vambraces and force field
Combat Speed= Diana
Reflexes= Even
Skill= Debatable.
Defense= WW's favor. Thor can block Blast and magic well. Diana Blocks Every thing well, Punches, Lasers, Magic blast, you name it.
Flight= Diana
Offense= Thor has the Clear advantage. Now how much it effects Diana, who is made to resist magical beings and was made to kill Gods, one can only speculate. IT may not work out like some would seem to think.Diana's Defense is Well suited to Thor's Offense. Diana has Shown High resistance to pretty much any Magical Based attack thor could throw. There will be no shrinking WW or turning her into anything or Teleporting her anywhere. Her sandles are every bit as good as transdimensional travel as Thor's Hammer. Circe can't turn Diana into anything and her Magical abilities are far above Thor's. Thor can get some good licks in with The weather and such. Not as many as people like to think. She can block Lighting fast punches and lasers and Omega effects and stuff.
With every thing being balanced out in one way or the other, The only thing Thor has on WW is that he is bullet proof and she is not. THo I can't figure out how she survives a light speed punch from the sun and crashes into the earth making a mile wide crater and isn't bullet proof. OH well What ever. Thor will get 5.5/10 victories do to the Boy factor. It's intersting to note that, WW, with all of her weapons, beats Thor 10/10 handily. The guantlet of Atlas would Send Thor to the emergency room, and The sword of hephastious would end his life if it lands one of her precision swipes.
WW isn't as strong as Superman nor Thor. According to feats, crushing mountains with single blows, destroying small Planetoids, shaking planets, etc, Thor's stronger.
What happens when she's not crossing her wrist? ya like when someone rips her arms off? ya I don't think he damage resistance will be as high. Thor has survived a blast that was the equivalent to an exploding sun with no damage what so ever, and this was without crossing his wrist. Damage resistance is in Thor's favor. 😉
Combat Speed Diana? I don't know, could be. However Thor has described as being as quick as the lightning he commands, and in a vacuum thats the speed of light.
Reflexes could be even, don't care too much.
skill could be the same? hers could be a bit higher.
Defense she could have in the bag, but like I said earlier what if someone rips her arms off? By the way, don't forget that Thor can also create defensive shields. They mat No be as powerful as hers, but they may still hold up against her.
No, I'm pretty sure his power would work regardless of the fact that she has a resistance to magic. I mean unless you have evidence that she's completely resistant.
Do you have proof that none of Thor's abilities would work on her? I mean whats stopping him from doing the things you described?
Thor wins 7/10
Originally posted by Soujaboy
WW isn't as strong as Superman nor Thor. According to feats, crushing mountains with single blows, destroying small Planetoids, shaking planets, etc, Thor's stronger.What happens when she's not crossing her wrist? ya like when someone rips her arms off? ya I don't think he damage resistance will be as high. Thor has survived a blast that was the equivalent to an exploding sun with no damage what so ever, and this was without crossing his wrist. Damage resistance is in Thor's favor. 😉
Combat Speed Diana? I don't know, could be. However Thor has described as being as quick as the lightning he commands, and in a vacuum thats the speed of light.
Reflexes could be even, don't care too much.
skill could be the same? hers could be a bit higher.
Defense she could have in the bag, but like I said earlier what if someone rips her arms off? By the way, don't forget that Thor can also create defensive shields. They mat No be as powerful as hers, but they may still hold up against her.
No, I'm pretty sure his power would work regardless of the fact that she has a resistance to magic. I mean unless you have evidence that she's completely resistant.
Do you have proof that none of Thor's abilities would work on her? I mean whats stopping him from doing the things you described?
Thor wins 8/10
Better yet, What is enabling him to do the things described. If Circe can't do it, Then Why shoudl thor be able to? Circe's control and power in magic far exceeds Thor's. And I would like for you to Disprove Diana's Strength. Also, RIp her arms off? What's to Stop her from cutting thor's arms off with the sword of hephesitious. And when did Thor Get strong enough to Rip WW's arms off? I dont' see that happening.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Firt lets get something str8. He wasn't mind Controlled like you suggest. His actions where not being controlled. Only what he percieved to be the truth. He acted of his own violition and acted as he would have had the situations been real. So don't even think he wasn't going all out on Diana. And She WAS punched 93 million miles and guess what? she got back up. and also That scan u put up means absolutely nothing without context. I can just as easily see her making superman's ears bleed or Breaking his ribs. Try again.I'm not convinced. And the only thing I do know is that, The EDITORIAL powers as DC have made it plain that WW is a dead heat for Superman in strength. Then they even gave her the niftly ability to draw on the earth for added power like strength and healing. Like he draws on the sun for the same. You will have to do better. Cuz I dont' see anything that he's done in that is out of her league. I do remember her saving Superman from being cremed by The Omega effect.
GOD DAMN. No wonder your nick name is "nvrhadaclue." crylaugh
Originally posted by batdude123
GOD DAMN. No wonder your nick name is "nvrhadaclue." crylaugh
Disprove me. Show me scans of Wonder Woman Not doing the things that I have mentioned. Also WW did save Superman from the agony of the Omega Effect. Or dont' you remember Superman's Arms burning from just being close to the OE. Darkseid can't kill Supers with the OE. that doesn't mean he can't bring him damn near Death and then pummel him.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Disprove me. Show me scans of Wonder Woman Not doing the things that I have mentioned. Also WW did save Superman from the agony of the Omega Effect. Or dont' you remember Superman's Arms burning from just being close to the OE. Darkseid can't kill Supers with the OE. that doesn't mean he can't bring him damn near Death and then pummel him.
Show me ONE strength feat of Diana's (not a combined effort of a team she was on, a SOLO feat of strength) that puts her near Superman's strength level.
Well so far All I get are opinions. No one is disproving anythign I've said. I have only mentioned what WW has done. So I'll chalk it up to people's own personal opinion, which is fine. I think she is as strong as any top tier. being that she is the only woman in comics that strong, she deserves that place.
Originally posted by batdude123
Show me ONE strength feat of Diana's (not a combined effort of a team she was on, a SOLO feat of strength) that puts her near Superman's strength level.
Breaking Superman's Ribs. Do you know just how strong you have to be to accomplish that?!!!! I've only seen Zod and Doomsday break Superman's bones.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Well so far All I get are opinions. No one is disproving anythign I've said. I have only mentioned what WW has done. So I'll chalk it up to people's own personal opinion, which is fine. I think she is as strong as any top tier. being that she is the only woman in comics that strong, she deserves that place.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Breaking Superman's Ribs. Do you know just how strong you have to be to accomplish that? I've only seen Zod and Doomsday break Superman's bones.
*sigh*
So the hell what? What FEAT OF STRENGTH PUTS HER NEAR SUPERMAN? What is her top feat? It's nowhere near Superman who TURNED THE ENDLESS WHEELS OF MAGGEDDON FOR CHRIST SAKE. If you say Wonder Woman can do the same, you're either high or just a damn Wonder Woman worshipper.
If that's WW's highest feat of strength, then I'm really not that impressed.
Originally posted by Validus
Well that's simply where opinions differ. I think she's a bit below Superman, Thor, Captain Marvel and Black Adam in pure strength but certainly above the likes of Namor and Wonder Man. If Superman is an A+ in strength, Diana is an A- while Wonder Man is a B-.
See in my thinking, Superman is so rediculously strong, like just super duper rediculous, that any being that can slug it with him, has to be that strong or so close it doesn't matter. The only people we really see duke it out with supers like diana are Doomsday, Captain marvel, Daxamites, Other krytonians, and Martians.
Originally posted by batdude123
*sigh*So the hell what? What FEAT OF STRENGTH PUTS HER NEAR SUPERMAN? What is her top feat? It's nowhere near Superman who TURNED THE ENDLESS WHEELS OF MAGGEDDON FOR CHRIST SAKE. If you say Wonder Woman can do the same, you're either high or just a damn Wonder Woman worshipper.
If that's WW's highest feat of strength, then I'm really not that impressed.
Doomsday doesn't have any strength feats per say. But we all know how strong he is becuz of How he was breaking superman's bones right? He dind't do anything near what WW has done in strength feats when he first came, but we all knew he was as strong as superman just becuz of his combat showings. and his ability to hurt the man of steel. So yeah, maybe your not impressed, but I am.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Doomsday doesn't have any strength feats per say. But we all know how strong he is becuz of How he was breaking superman's bones right? He dind't do anything near what WW has done in strength feats when he first came, but we all knew he was as strong as superman just becuz of his combat showings. and his ability to hurt the man of steel. So yeah, maybe your not impressed, but I am.
That's because he KILLED Superman after a day-long battle. He's also beaten the snot out of Wonder Woman. *yawn* NEXT!
And please, I'm still waiting for a strength feat of hers that compares to moving an entire solar system.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
See in my thinking, Superman is so rediculously strong, like just super duper rediculous, that any being that can slug it with him, has to be that strong or so close it doesn't matter. The only people we really see duke it out with supers like diana are Doomsday, Captain marvel, Daxamites, Other krytonians, and Martians.
Originally posted by batdude123
That's because he KILLED Superman after a day-long battle. He's also beaten the snot out of Wonder Woman. *yawn* NEXT!
First off, If she can break his ribs, She can break any bone in his body. Which means she has the power to kill superman. Or don't you remember Max lord saying, either your going to kill superman or he's going to kill you. Max new what he was doing. He wanted to get either one or Both of them out of the way.
And Doomsday beat the snot out of Wonder Woman after he had evolved. Maybe you should try that one again.
Doomsday had no strength feats beyond the comic ordinary in his first appearances, but the minute he Hurt Superman badly, We all knew that he was just as strong.
And one thing you forget, WW lifting the Meteor that was the size of an island was easy for her. No strain at all. She seems to be getting stronger as the comics go on.
So Just how strong does someone have to be to break one of the man of steels bones. Becuz if you have her being so far below Him in strength, your actually discrediting his Uber invulnerability. You can't have it both ways.