http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,79698,00.html
US Marines get their own special forces. You can't be a special forces unit and have a special forces. It's kind of pointless to have special forces for special forces.
http://www.marines.cc/content/view/5/6
"The Marine Corps is the second smallest of the five branches..."
You can't be special forces if you're one of the branches of the US military.
http://www.specialoperations.com/Units/military.htm
Lists each branch and their special operation forces. Note that the US Marines are a branch. Not special forces.
You may kindly leave this discussion now.
Originally posted by Kinneary
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,79698,00.htmlUS Marines get their own special forces. You can't be a special forces unit and have a special forces. It's kind of pointless to have special forces for special forces.
http://www.marines.cc/content/view/5/6
"The Marine Corps is the second smallest of the five branches..."
You can't be special forces if you're one of the [b]branches
of the US military.http://www.specialoperations.com/Units/military.htm
Lists each branch and their special operation forces. Note that the US Marines are a branch. Not special forces.
You may kindly leave this discussion now. [/B]
Seriously don't think just because it is something intuitive it would be right, Marines as a whole in the USA are a special force. Yes you can be a special force if you're a branch they are the only force 100% combat ready from cooks to infantry no other branch has that.
Originally posted by Kinneary
Do you have any evidence?
That they are all combat ready, are you shitting me. I thought you were in the military. I am not going to paste up the Marines guide vs Army vs Air Force etc, look it up. You are going to have to take my word for it I am not crackalacking on the evidence I have no reason to lie about this.
I don't think you're lying. I think you're misinformed. I've already showed you evidence as to why they're not special forces. They're a branch of the military. Just because they're combat ready doesn't mean anything. The Navy can have a presence anywhere in the world it needs to within 16 hours. That doesn't mean anything. Combat readiness does not equal special forces. Being 'cool' does not equal special forces. You don't go from civilian to special forces. There is no special operations force in the entire military that you can join straight out of high school. In order to join a special op force you have to already be a member of the military. You don't retire from the Navy SEALs or the Army RANGERs. You retire from the Navy. You retire from the Army. You retire from the Marines.
I think you're grossly misinformed. Worse than that, I think you probably know you're wrong at this point, but refuse to admit it.
Originally posted by Kinneary
I don't think you're lying. I think you're misinformed. I've already showed you evidence as to why they're not special forces. They're a branch of the military. Just because they're combat ready doesn't mean anything. The Navy can have a presence anywhere in the world it needs to within 16 hours. That doesn't mean anything. Combat readiness does not equal special forces. Being 'cool' does not equal special forces. You don't go from civilian to special forces. There is no special operations force in the entire military that you can join straight out of high school. In order to join a special op force you have to already be a member of the military. You don't retire from the Navy SEALs or the Army RANGERs. You retire from the Navy. You retire from the Army. You retire from the Marines.I think you're grossly misinformed. Worse than that, I think you probably know you're wrong at this point, but refuse to admit it.
Are you or have you ever been in the military in any branch or force in the USA?
Originally posted by Kinneary
I am in the US Navy. As a Corpsman. Corpsman are not only the medical support for the Navy, but also for the Marines.
Great now go review and reread your definition of special forces. No where is there an absolute definition ANYWHERE other then what you specifically looked for.
Facts
Marines spear head operations (First in)
All are combat Ready (army or air force etc take jobs but don't take combat training)
your definition of special forces and mine are clearly seperate.
By the way Marines have two battalions of recon and two companies of forced recon does that mean recon isn't a special forces under your definition soldier?
By the way also when a Marine always a Marine, Semper Fi they can call on you far after your service time.
Marines spear head operations (First in)All are combat Ready (army or air force etc take jobs but don't take combat training)
your definition of special forces and mine are clearly seperate.
By the way Marines have two battalions of recon and two companies of forced recon does that mean recon isn't a special forces under your definition soldier?
And no, Recon is not a member of the special ops forces. Some have begun an attempt to integrate under MSSOCOM Det One, however.
By the way also when a Marine always a Marine, Semper Fi they can call on you far after your service time.
this just isn't worth the semantics or splitting hairs as you were.
Clearly you have some right to you.
Haha, ANY branch can do that. After I get out of the Navy, they can still recall me for another 2 years. When someone enlists, they enlist for 8 years. 4 active duty years (or five/six depending on the contract) and whatever time is remaining is spent in the inactive or active reserves. My dad retired from the Navy in 1994, but was only taken off of the recall list in 2004, for example.
depending on your role trust me they have a different windoww.