Originally posted by batdude123
If he's bloodlusted, that means that whatever he can do to take down Spider-man, he would do.I don't know if his Iron suit could absorb Cyclops' blasts.
He will, but not at the expense of his team. Think about it anyway, closed spaces + bloodlusted Cyclops = most of team buried under debris.
Doesnt matter if Spidey's suit can absorb kinetic energy, he would eventually get overloaded just like Bishop did in Civil War: X-men.
He also wasnt absorbing the kinetic energy that Cap was giving him either.
Also you said he would have to worry about killing his team, Nightcrawler is on the X-Men side so he can teleport the rest of the team out of the mansion.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
It's interesting that Cyclops won't use an omniblast, when he has shown the propensity to kill when necessary in the past. While Spider-Man who rarely uses his stealth mode is spending all his time running around invisible.
Well, you see, he's heard about Cyc's occasional kill frenzy with the ol' evil eye.... so he ain't taking any chances
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CIS off. Spider-Man is invisible. Scott just fires an omniblast. Kurt probably survives by teleporting. If the X-Men are behind Cyclops it wouldn't really matter anyway.
CIS on. It works both ways. Cyclops won't fire a killing blast. But at the same time Spider-Man doesn't use stealth, he holds his punches. And he gets hit on occasion. Teamwork would still see the X-Men imo.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
CIS off. Spider-Man is invisible. Scott just fires an omniblast. Kurt probably survives by teleporting. If the X-Men are behind Cyclops it wouldn't really matter anyway.
It's still a stealth sneak attack in this thread.... Cyc would be first on the list to take out.... he would never see it coming
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
CIS off. Spider-Man is invisible. Scott just fires an omniblast. Kurt probably survives by teleporting. If the X-Men are behind Cyclops it wouldn't really matter anyway.CIS on. It works both ways. Cyclops won't fire a killing blast. But at the same time Spider-Man doesn't use stealth, he holds his punches. And he gets hit on occasion. Teamwork would still see the X-Men imo.
Your assuming too many things. Spider-Man has the stealth edge remember. I don't think he'll start out by making himself visible to Cyclops. Seccond, your assuming Cyclops will take the first shot. Nightcrawler is really fast and everyone knows what a loose canon Wolverine is. Chances are either one of those guys will already have tried to engage Spider-Man. And whats Scott gonna do with his face webbed up? Besides Cyclops is not gonna let lose with an omniblast in the mansion. It will literally bring down the mansion around all of them. He's not gonna risk hurting his teammates.
Even with CIS on and Spider-Man not using his stealth he's still more than fast enough to melee all of the X-Men
First off it doesn't even say in the OP that he gets the element of surprise - i.e. one-sided prep - that's just a weird assumption that's crept into the thread. They start off facing off as per normal. All it says is that they fight in the mansion at night, and unless they've regressed to the early 1800s the mansion is illuminated by artificial light if people are awake.
What's Scott going to if his face is webbed up. Blast it off.
I am pretty sure Cyclops blasts can go through webbing, also Wolverine is more durable than Spider-Man, even if Wolverine and Spider-Man were already fighting Cyclops would still blast them, for a coupla reasons, first he doesnt really like Wolverine and second Wolverine would survive a blast that Spidey wouldnt.
You also assume that Cyclops cares about the mansion more than someone trying to possibly kill him. And there is no way Spider-Man is going to melee the whole team unless there is massive PIS involved.
Originally posted by marvelprince
I meant feats that put him in the 20-30 ton range. Those feats put him no more than 10. I remember you providing the same feats in another thread. They prove he's definitely above 2 ton, but they don't shoot him into 30 category
Euh he created a earth quake, I guess you didn't look at the comics, those feats put him well in 30 ton range.