Originally posted by Advent
I seem to remember Maul being caught off guard by an enraged Obi-Wan, and that's the only reason Kenobi was able to match him temporarily and slice his saber in half. Afterwards, when Maul's frenzy increased - he gained the upper hand, it was only for the moment that Obi-Wan was pissed, he didn't get any better - he just surprised Maul. It doesn't mean he's the better swordsman. Obi-Wan in ROTS kicked Anakin, and tripped him. Is Obi-Wan a better duelist than Anakin?Short answer: Hell no.
I doubt the Obi-"Jet Lee" Kenobi (unleashed, lol) is a better swordsman than Qui-Gon attacking with a "ferocity not seen before" and a "fresh reserve of strength" or even TPM Mace Windu is [b]absurd
. Anyways, as noted by both the novelization and script:"But Darth Maul was the stronger of the two and was driven by a frenzy that surpassed even the frantic determination that fueled Obi-Wan. Eventually, the Sith Lord began to wear the young Jedi down. Bit by bit, he pressed him back, carrying the attack to him, looking to catch him off guard. Obi-Wan could sense his body weakening, and his fear of what it would mean if he, too, were to fall, began to grow. "
"DARTH MAUL seems to have the upper hand as OBI-WAN grows weary."
I also seem to remember Kenobi getting overpowered in the saberlock, only to get Force pushed into a shaft, and through pure luck alone - not skill - managed to get the jump on Maul because he was acting like an arrogant jackass when he had Kenobi beat, and wasted roughly half a minute doing such.
Maul > Kenobi. This is apparent throughout the entire duel, save for one moment. To assume Obi-Wan, even pissed off, is better than Maul is ridiculous when you consider Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan's "best efforts" weren't enough to stop Maul, and that he was described as "keeping them both at bay, constantly attacking while at the same time effectively blunting their counterattacks". And it's also nice that you say Maul was "sliced in half minutes later", but don't include why Maul was cleaved in two. Thankfully, we have Advent to provide that reason, so people don't misunderstand.
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Thanks Advent, you're always so good at making things simpler ^_^ Although you never repleid to my pm...
Originally posted by Blax X
Actually, in terms of pure swordsmanship I would say that Obi-Wan (unleashed, that is, using the darkside to help fuel him) has a slight edge over Maul. I seem to rememebr Maul getting dropped flat on his ass by a very pissed off kenobi, and then sliced in half a few minutes later.
Obi-Wan diden't use the Darkside to fuel his attacks.
He was actually still under control, and used some raw emotion(That was perfectly tapped) to fuel his attacks.
He diden't use the Darkside though.
When the Jedi became separated, Maul killed Qui-Gon with a well-placed saber strike. Kenobi, enraged, attacked Maul. This barrage was deflected by Maul who used Obi-Wan's touching of the dark side as a conduit for a Force attack; using the Force, Maul pushed Obi-Wan into a deep mining pit. Kenobi held onto an outcropping for dear life. Calming himself by calling upon the light side of the Force, Kenobi was able to surprise Maul, and cleave him in half with his saber. - Star Wars Databank
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