Originally posted by darthgoober
Isn't this actually true for ALL comic book characters?
MOst characters are bound by the Editorial powers that be. Precrisis Superman writers had no such limits. They could have Superman move the universe and explain it away without anyone giving it a thought. that is why the krytonians were depowered.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlYou say all this, but PC Superboy has shown not to be on a PC Superman level.
First off, lets get some things str8. THERE were many alternate Superman kryptionian beings. They all still had the same lvl of power. They were all precrisis krytonian. Him being from an alternate world only goes into the whole infinite worlds thing of DC back then. I don't see your point about him being from an alternate world when every other krytonian was alternate. They were all still krytonians with PC lvl power. And SBP was flown thru a sun under anyone's power. They tricked him thru the red sun. he was fighting them and not paying attention to where he was going. And it's krytonite that doesn't affect him. The red sun is what affected him.
Thus, your argument is invalid.
Originally posted by manjaroYou're rather obsessed with these Thai whores. He punched them back in a nondirected blind flurry. Comparing SBP to Thanos with the IG makes baby Jesus cry.
i hate to break it to you dude but when it comes to immense speeds it doesnt really get any better than the flash dynasty..yet SBP was manhandling them like unruly thai whores... and to make matters worse SBP has is Solar collector armor... R U f ****ing kidding me? thats over kill..you may as well give thanos the IG to go take on a bunch of pre schoolers
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
MOst characters are bound by the Editorial powers that be. Precrisis Superman writers had no such limits. They could have Superman move the universe and explain it away without anyone giving it a thought. that is why the krytonians were depowered.
Originally posted by bigbran
You say all this, but PC Superboy has shown not to be on a PC Superman level.Thus, your argument is invalid.
HMM, let's see
SBP moved Planets around So fast that the people didn't even know that they moved. Superman on panel has been shown to have trouble moving Earth with help.
SBP cracked time with his punch. I seem to remember precrisis Superman doing that as well.
SBP BLitzed thru a 3 hundred mile thick wall of green lantern will power.
I don't need to argue. SBP speaks for himself.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlAll this would make him is over PC Superboy, thus not PC powers. And also not the same powers.
HMM, let's seeSBP moved Planets around So fast that the people didn't even know that they moved. Superman on panel has been shown to have trouble moving Earth with help.
SBP cracked time with his punch. I seem to remember precrisis Superman doing that as well.
SBP BLitzed thru a 3 hundred mile thick wall of green lantern will power.
I don't need to argue. SBP speaks for himself.
Plus PC Superman of today, and PC Superman of a couple years ago, is quite different.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Wait now if that's the case, then HOW is he as powerful as pre crisis, when his writers ARE bound by editorial powers that be?
Look at it this way, Has any post crisis krytonian ever done what SBP did? Have they shown his kind of Strength, speed, and stamina? He laughed off a punch from Black Adam. Superman couldnt' dare laugh off a punch from BA. Superboy prime was written to be the character that he was before crisis.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlWell all that proves is that he's more powerful than the post crisis kryptonians. It doesn't prove that he has pre crisis powers. There's a BIG difference.
Look at it this way, Has any post crisis krytonian ever done what SBP did? Have they shown his kind of Strength, speed, and stamina? He laughed off a punch from Black Adam. Superman couldnt' dare laugh off a punch from BA. Superboy prime was written to be the character that he was before crisis.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Well all that proves is that he's more powerful than the other post crisis kryptonians. It doesn't prove that he has pre crisis powers. There's a BIG difference.
And if he was able to beat a precrisis Krytonian AND a post Crisis one, until they depowered him, the difference might be in his favor actually.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And if he was able to beat a precrisis Krytonian AND a post Crisis one, until they depowered him, the difference might be in his favor actually.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Wait, if the pre crisis kryptonian was actually at pre crisis level(meaning he could do ANYTHING), shouldn't his losing be considered PIS?
No one ever said he could do anything. Only what ever the writer could dream up. And precrisis Supers was beaten by darkseid. So Him loosing is all with in the wrealm of possibility.
Originally posted by bigbran
Why don't you prove he was.
You always ask for evidence, but yet, you never show any...at all.
And a mad " PC" Superman wasn't even able to put down post crisis Superman.
When Has Superman ever been known to go all out on another good guy in his right mind? Especially the one who was saying that the world needs goodness? That would have been totally out of Character for him to just completely hurt post crisis Superman. and he looked to have the clear advantage.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No one ever said he could do anything. Only what ever the writer could dream up. And precrisis Supers was beaten by darkseid. So Him loosing is all with in the wrealm of possibility.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
TO them, There is no PIS. it's all thier power. They can do pretty much anything they put thier minds to.
Originally posted by bigbran
Superboy-Prime's story starts in a parallel world called Earth Prime, a near-copy of the real world in which the DC heroes are simply fictional characters. In this world, he is the adopted son of Jerry and Naomi Kent, who found it amusing to name their new infant son "Clark," after Superman, a fictional comic book character on Earth-Prime. What the Kents do not know is that the baby, found abandoned in a forest, is actually a young Kal-El, who was teleported to Earth moments before the planet Krypton was destroyed when its sun went super nova.Really, because I know exactly what your doing. Your trying to make him at a PC level, so you can Justify, the GL feat, as "non" pis
No he comes from an alternate Universe!!
They can, back then, he cannot!
I know, but they still flew him threw the sun, under there own power. Beat his ass, after I thought he wasn't supposed to be affected the Red Sun.
i have a naggin suspicion that you are confusing Crises...any and all charcters and events that appeared or occured b4 COIE in 1986 is considered Pre-crsis...back then charcters had no limit to thier powers and abilites and it was since the Bryne Era that writers made a conscious decision to depower alot of ppl, but it was superman that got the ball rolling. in fact, cap. marvel used to do the same ridicolous shit superman used to do.
SBP is PC becuase on the very same night he dicovered his powers he met superman(E-1 superman) and then COIE started right after that..thats why he keeps whining about wanting to see his family and his girlfriend and his earth again bcuz he didnt get to enjoy his childhood..I mean cmon dude if you took the time to qoute his bio from wiki then you should have scrolled all the way down to the bottom of the page where it said....
Superboy-Prime has all the basic Kryptonian powers, including super-strength, the power of flight, super-speed, super-breath, arctic breath, super-hearing, super-vision (including X-ray, heat, microscopic and telescopic visions), and invulnerability to any force other than psionics and non-yellow suns, except his power-levels are at the godlike stature of the Silver Age Superman of Earth-One before he was depowered in John Byrne's reboot. Silver age as in PC superman..accept it sir!!! i command you to!!!
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlWhen he thinks the other killed Lois.
When Has Superman ever been known to go all out on another good guy in his right mind? Especially the one who was saying that the world needs goodness? That would have been totally out of Character for him to just completely hurt post crisis Superman. and he looked to have the clear advantage.
Originally posted by darthgoober
YOU said it...
Me saying that they could do anything they put thier minds to is not me saying they could do anything. Try again. That is two totally different statements. Mxy can do anything. Superman is not going to put his mind to changing a bananna into a person. See the difference. Doing anything you put ur mind to would mean knowing what you can do within the scope of ur powers and doing it. Not trying to change a fig tree into a dog.