Originally posted by thedude1948
When has it been stated that he has superhuman agility? It says in the handbooks that he only has [B]Near-superhuman agility. I know the handbooks can be wrong but has it ever been stated in the comics that his agility is superhuman? [/B]
Have you ever seen Gambit perform acrobatic feats? That should be enough proof for you.
He's always been able to perform feats that non-superhumans couldn't do.
If you wanna go by handbooks, Cap is only peak human in all aspects. Which means he can only lift up to 800 lbs. 😉
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Have you ever seen Gambit perform acrobatic feats? That should be enough proof for you.He's always been able to perform feats that non-superhumans couldn't do.
If you wanna go by handbooks, Cap is only peak human in all aspects. Which means he can only lift up to 800 lbs. 😉
Im not arguing with Cap's strength, thats what it says. Cap has crazy acrobatic feats also, but he is still peak-human just like Gambit is.
Originally posted by thedude1948
Im not arguing with Cap's strength, thats what it says. Cap has crazy acrobatic feats also, but he is still peak-human just like Gambit is.
Here's one example:
X-treme X-Men #19. Check it out.
Beast, who is superhumanly fast and superhumanly agile, surprisingly lunged at Gambit. Gambit, with his superhuman agility, was able to evade the attack (which I personally see as quite the insult to Beast, but hey, it happened). You need superhuman agility to avoid a superhumanly agile opponent at such close range (They were just a few feet apart).
Im not arguing with Cap's strength, thats what it says. Cap has crazy acrobatic feats also, but he is still peak-human just like Gambit is.
I think Gambit is peak in the sense of a man in his prime, although I have heard that his agility is super, not sure for quotes in books though.
Cap took a super-soilder enhancement to create a human at the maximum level. As the good Doctor stated a man unlike the world has never seen before. So even if Gambit being a mutant has it in one aspect of agility. Cap has it in all aspects reflex, speed, strength, intellect etc etc.
^What the writer and artist were clearly doing with Captain America in mind when they made that scene.
Actually Cap has other senes like that, thanks to his enhanced strength and enhanced skill.
He has also cut off high flying helicopters to put his shield through a thick steel engine of a supply truck. To even used it too intercept Thor's thrown hammer.
...Wow. no expressionWhoever wrote that...has just basically shat on everything I know and love about comics.
That makes absolutely no sense.
You must not read enough on Cap. Cap has also defeated besides Beast. Scorpion, Tarantula, Man-ape, Ram-Rod, Hyde, USAgent, Mad-Dog and has had the upperhand on Spiderman twice.
Cap has the skill to back up his stats.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
On further reflection I'm not sure whether less than subtle would make something more subtle or less so. 😖 In any event the sarcasm was pretty obvious.
Originally posted by thedude1948
Physically he is not superhuman in anything, he can be close to Peak human but he is not superhuman.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
I think Gambit is peak in the sense of a man in his prime, although I have heard that his agility is super, not sure for quotes in books though.Cap took a super-soilder enhancement to create a human at the maximum level. As the good Doctor stated a man unlike the world has never seen before. So even if Gambit being a mutant has it in one aspect of agility. Cap has it in all aspects reflex, speed, strength, intellect etc etc.
Better reflexes my ass. I'd love to see Captain deflecting bullets/lasers with a thin staff. Gambit is able to react to the same things Captain does WITHOUT that lame slowmo vision or whatever Captain is using.
Gambit can do that because he has skill with his staff which is impressive, I agree. Cap has dodged bullets without the aid of his shield and has played in beams/lasers as well though.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Actually Cap has other senes like that, thanks to his enhanced strength and enhanced skill.He has also cut off high flying helicopters to put his shield through a thick steel engine of a supply truck. To even used it too intercept Thor's thrown hammer.
Actually, a lot of things he does tend to make some sense. But that? That scene where he throws his shield at a missile that's flying away from him?
BULL. He'd have absolutely no way of reaching that missile. For one, it HAS to be flying at more than several hundred mph. Cap can throw the shield fast, but not that fast. Secondly, he's throwing it up and to a pretty far distance. The shield negates gravity now?
Sigh.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
You must not read enough on Cap. Cap has also defeated besides Beast. Scorpion, Tarantula, Man-ape, Ram-Rod, Hyde, USAgent, Mad-Dog and has had the upperhand on Spiderman twice.Cap has the skill to back up his stats.
No, I've seen plenty of Cap's feats. And for the most part, I agree with them.
Ones I don't agree with?
1. Spider-Man
2. Beast
3. Scorpion
And I'm sure there are plenty more.
Apparently fighting Cap makes one become retarded. 😬
-Beast forgets all of his superhuman abilities and training
-Spider-Man becomes a fragile two-year-old
-And Scorpion, well, loses
I'm just sick and tired of his jobber aura.
Originally posted by StyleTime
Yeah. I was wondering about that. I got your point though.Even though he does superhuman things, he isn't superhuman right?
Better reflexes my ass. I'd love to see Captain deflecting bullets/lasers with a thin staff. Gambit is able to react to the same things Captain does WITHOUT that lame slowmo vision or whatever Captain is using.
Thank God for people like you. Cap would die trying to deflect bullets with a thin staff the way Gambit does ALL THE TIME.
Gambit's reflexes >>> Cap's.
