Kal-el the Running Juggernaut vs hal silverhunter

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Soleran Fast As Time

Must fight and restain urges, oops my bad!

Validus Senior Member

Originally posted by batdude123
This kind of crap is way too uber to be in here.

The power of Green Lantern too much for you to handle? 🙁

UniOmni Outrageously Dickish
Originally posted by Validus
The power of Green Lantern too much for you to handle? 🙁

Go post in my MM and Viz vs Etri and Blues thread!! Quickly man!!

🙁 I need the support!

Don't miss my Blue Devil and Vision fight either 😮

Green Lantern owns Superman

gotta go!!!

batdude123 Fellow Tu Quoqumber
Originally posted by Validus
The power of Green Lantern too much for you to handle? 🙁

Creating the entire GL corps to help him? eer

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by newjak86
I'm not going to lie this should be lopsided to the nth degree but I won't say which person it is.

Non Offical.

Because someone has your favorite character right?

Validus Senior Member

Originally posted by batdude123
Creating the entire GL corps to help him? eer

It's as valid as an energy blast.

newjak86 I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by bigbran
Non Offical.

Because someone has your favorite character right?

That and some other stuff I know about figure is going to happen

batdude123 Fellow Tu Quoqumber
Originally posted by Validus
It's as valid as an energy blast.

Not really. 😂

newjak86 I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by batdude123
Not really. 😂
I have to agree with Val if he can do it let it fly

batdude123 Fellow Tu Quoqumber
Originally posted by newjak86
I have to agree with Val if he can do it let it fly

Course you do. You were trying to use Daxamites that were constructed by the ring. 😂

Inhuman |||||||||||||||||

just an interesting tid bit:
out of Superman, Runner, juggernaut,hal gl, silver surfer, martian manhunter
Runner gets the majority over any of those individually.
😮‍💨

batdude123 Fellow Tu Quoqumber
Originally posted by Inhuman
just an interesting tid bit:
out of Superman, Runner, juggernaut,hal gl, silver surfer, martian manhunter
Runner gets the majority over any of those individually.
😮‍💨

That wasn't necessary for you to post that. 😬

Inhuman |||||||||||||||||
Originally posted by batdude123
That wasn't necessary for you to post that. 😬

I know but i wanted to even things out because some were comenting on how this was lopsided😬
when it really wasnt. Both teams(hybid hero), I think are equally powerfull in their own rights.

Broly92 Bow to Amc or else?

Originally posted by batdude123
No spectators can post. This is the mini tourney for the AMC to decide who goes to the actual tourney.

Could you guys actually listen? please *sorry but had to be said

Roldz MAJIN_OVERLORD

I think this fight is pretty even...

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by darthgoober
OK then, let's get this party started.

I'll spend the first second of my prep time raising the Juggernaut's forcefield. This will render me invulnerable to non psychic attacks(which I'm protected from by my helmet), as demonstrated here...


How well would it protect against intangabity?
I seem to remember a certain Vision phasing through Juggs helmet and into his head.
Plus I have two characters that can do it.
I'm pretty sure if I was just a purley physical character, then I might be seriously screwed, but I'm not.
So maybe your not as safe as you think.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I'll then spend another second, raising a second shield, using the abilities of Superman Blue. As demonstrated here...

My first response is, that with all your shields, what can you do to hurt me, since your also confined into your shields.
But with my phasing, and matter manipulation, I don't think it's going to be too hard to get through your defenses.
If not, I can always blow up the planet your on, and make you go into a black hole, as shown here.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Also, if it's not already active, Ill activate the Runners 'Likeable' power. Now remember,

the Runners power makes his opponents like him, even in while in combat, that means that there's NO WAY you'll be using Hal's ring completely effectively, because the rings power

depends on WILL. And your will is going to be negatively effected, by the intense feeling of like that you have towards me. Maybe not negated, but defiantly subject.
Another funny thing about the Runner, is the he is about the only being to ever out speed Surfer. Both the likability and speed advantage are demonstrated here...


With a willpower such as Hal's, I shouldn't have one problem with this.
Why do you think hal's one of the most powerful gl's?
It's because his willpower is so high!
He can absically resist most of the things that you throw at me. Especially when your trying to tamper with my emotions.

Originally posted by darthgoober

That would be good....if Surfer didn't go and kick his ass in the next issue.
Everyone basically beats SS in there first appearance, Morg, Runner, etc.
But both of those people got there asses handed to them in the next issue.
Plus his speed can be countered especially since I have a GL ring on my side, that can work even when I don't will it t work.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Hell, Runner's so fast, he can even blitz Thanos(which NO ONE else has ever done). Check it out...


Are you forgetting that Runner had the space gem for that fight?
Then he got turned into a baby later, by Thanos.
If I gave my characters the Space gem, I bet they could eaily Sb Thanos too.

Originally posted by darthgoober
So there's NO WAY, your coming anywhere near me, unless I want you to.

I doubt that.
Remeber that I still have illusions on my side, and I still have some constructs.
So, while your off being distracted, I will phase through your shield, and totally screw up your mind.
Plus, how do you think your going to touch me threw some of my things?
Originally posted by darthgoober
That's about it for prep. Now for my battle plan...

I could always...

Smack you around if it gets physical, just ask Thor...


You think my people are strangers to pure physical might?
You'd better think again.
Hal. Hmm...this also shows one of the shields I could create in the first second of the battle. I mean, I still have some constructs and illusions right?
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/b662ec0c.jpg

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/7bd5fcaa.jpg

http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/efcbd6ea.jpg

Silver Surfer. Against Champion with the wristbands.
Let me ask you something, when has Juggernaut shown enough power to destroy a planet....I won't get an answer so I'll continue.
http://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?image=champ0th2.jpg
http://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?image=champim5.jpg
http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=champ1vn7.jpg
http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=champ2gq5.jpg
http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=champ3vf3.jpg
^^^^^
That kind of beats your Jugg feat, doesn't it?

MM has also fought with Supes.
http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=swisscheese7gw.jpg

Originally posted by darthgoober
Or the Stranger(a cosmic level entity)
Hasn't SS beaten Stranger....alone?
Juggs hit him once, when he had a team, and Stranger got up in the next panel.
Good try though.

Originally posted by darthgoober
But don't rely on physical power alone, not when I can do things like this...

Notice the comment on INFINITE POTENTIAL?

Ok, then Surfer can absorb anything, because it has been stated.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5397085

Cept, I have some proof of this absorbing powers.
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/1747/solar2kn9.jpg
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2949/solar4dt6.jpg

Originally posted by darthgoober
And if by some miracle you do manage to hurt me, well that don't mean a thing, cause I got a healing factor that puts Wolverine's to shame.

This is SECONDS after having his eyes stabbed out by a MYSTIC SWORD.
I think the best thing to sum up just how invincible I am would be...

If, that puts Wolverine's to shame then, mine would put yours to bed without supper.
MM regenates from just one arm.
http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=regrow11ch.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=regrow28mx.jpg

MM regenrates from a little drop of goop.
http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=volcano2om5qt.jpg

Surfer is completely healed in the next panel.
http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=unilord2eb3.jpg
http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=unilord3vk4.jpg

This is of course, saying that IF you are able to seriously hurt my guy.
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/CaptainUniverseSS1-14.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Star_Masters_2_009.jpg

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5671022

Originally posted by darthgoober
So between being stronger,faster, invulnerable, equal in energy manipulation, and near instant healing, you ain't gotta chance.

More durible yes. Stronger, maybe. Those 2 don't matter though, when I have the abilty to make you go down in just a couple attacks.
I could phase through your shields and get into your helmet. Screwing with your mind.
Or I could get your helmet off, and mind rape you.

You definately aren't better in energy manipulation.
Hal is one of the best, and Surfer may even be equal.
Hal can instantly stop time, create beings that are esentially the gl corps, etc.
Surfer can time travel, absorb, a nearly limitless amount, etc.

My healing factor far surpasses yours too.

My speed, probably is better too.

Originally posted by darthgoober
(Forgive me if I did this wrong, I have NO experience at this at all.)
You did it right.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by bigbran
I'm pretty sure if I was just a purley physical character, then I might be seriously screwed, but I'm not.
So maybe your not as safe as you think.

Ah bigbran, you ARE screwed. You see, Supes has a little something for people who's defense lies in their intangibility, check it out...

So no intangibility for you. Sorry.

Originally posted by bigbran
If not, I can always blow up the planet your on, and make you go into a black hole, as shown here.
[/B]

Truthfully, my shields won't hurt you at all(I've got something else planned for that). Just like your black hole, won't hurt me. See aside from Juggs durability, I have the advantage of have an Elder of the Universe as a component. See Elders draw from a energy source just as powerful as the power cosmic, and a black hole is totally survivable to those who posses it. The Runner and the other Elders all survived during Galactus's battle with the In-betweener.

[i]With a willpower such as Hal's, I shouldn't have one problem with this.
[/B]

So your saying that IN YOUR OPINION, it won't be a problem? But you don't have any proof that Hal could resist something like that. But, I do see where your coming from, it's not like anyone has ever manipulated Hal and affected his emotional state. *Cough*Parallax*Cough*

[i] That would be good....if Surfer didn't go and kick his ass in the next issue.
[/B]

Any proof of this ass kicking? I can guarantee that you don't have any, because Surfer and Runner NEVER fought in that issue. MANTIS tripped Runner, but that's it. Then a little bit later, Surfer and Mantis ran away.

[i]Are you forgetting that Runner had the space gem for that fight?
B]

Come on bigbran, your better than that. We both know that the Runner NEVER used the gem in that fight. If you don't believe me, maybe you'll believe Thanos...

Notice he says that the gem DIDN'T make runner faster. It gave him teleportation abilities. Did YOU see those in action? Didn't think so, so yes, my guy IS faster.

[i]I doubt that.
Remeber that I still have illusions on my side, and I still have some constructs.
So, while your off being distracted, I will phase through your shield, and totally screw up your mind. [/B]

I'll get to these in a minute...

[i]Silver Surfer. Against Champion with the wristbands.
Let me ask you something, when has Juggernaut shown enough power to destroy a planet....I won't get an answer so I'll continue.
[/B]

Sorry bigbran, but for some reason I can't make out the words on panel to properly describe what's going on(I'm not denying it, but your going to have to let me know what's being said). But I can say, that it didn't look like any planet was destroyed during the fight that you posted. A big asteroid(seemed about building size, which is decent), but no planet. To my knowledge, the only time the Champion ever destroyed a planet physically, was when he had the power gem, which makes a BIG difference(since HE was using it to become stronger, unlike the Runner with the space gem).

[i]That kind of beats your Jugg feat, doesn't it?[/B]

What? Breaking out of the asteroids? Yeah, that was decent. But Juggs has some feats that compare...

[i] Hasn't SS beaten Stranger....alone?
[/B]
And Surfers victory was impressive, I'll admit, but do you have any evidence of him knocking him to the ground PHYSICALLY with one shot?

[i] Ok, then Surfer can absorb anything, because it has been stated.
[/B]
Actually, it's been stated that he could absorb and reflect(notice he said reflect AND absorb, he didn't say he could simply absorb a neat infinite amount), of Firelords EXTERNAL energy ball. The blast Firelord were shooting affected him just fine.

[i]Cept, I have some proof of this absorbing powers.
[/B]
And if I were a sun, that wasn't fighting back I'd be worried.

[i]If, that puts Wolverine's to shame then, mine would put yours to bed without supper.
MM regenates from just one arm.

MM regenrates from a little drop of goop.
[/url] [/B]

Yes, and if you had Manhunter's body, this fight would take a while if it were to the death. But since Surfers body isn't made up of the same stuff as MM's, I don't think those feat's apply. It seems to me(though I could be wrong, I don't know much about Manhunter), that from the look of those scans, that he possesses sentience through out his entire cellular structure. But your character doesn't HAVE MM's cellular structure. He has Surfer's. Also, if those feats DO apply, notice that he awoke in both instances. But if you'll notice, Juggernaut is still conscious in my scan of him as a skeleton and helmet.

No one said this was a fight to the death, so if your guy is KO'd, I still win.

[i]Surfer is completely healed in the next panel.[/B]
Yes, and if it were a fight to the death, that might worry me. But since Surfer's been KO'd plenty of times, I'll just take that route.

[i]This is of course, saying that IF you are able to seriously hurt my guy.[/B]

Which I should be ale to do, since I don't plan on dropping you out of the sky, shooting you with guns, or using fire on you.

I'll just cover everything else all at once. Now as far as getting my helmet off, it's NEVER going to happen, as long a Juggs forcefield is up(and unlike the character Juggs, I don't plan on taking it down, unless I phase of course). And regarding all your post about your constructs and your abilities as a GL, well I got some BAD news for you. Here, I think Supes can explain it best...

So sorry, no constructs or GL shields for you, you'll just have to rely on Surfer's abilities.And as for your illusions, well Supes explains that best to...

So unless they're mystic(which they're not), they're still a form of energy, and subject to draining(which I will do). All I have to do, is to expend the effort to absorb 'all' of you at once, and then fight who ever is left. And after that, it's just a matter of phasing through Surfers shields(if they're not down too, and they should be), and absorbing YOUR energy, like so...

None of this should be a problem, given that your guys probably going to be standing there with a stupid look on his face, trying to figure out what happened to all his stuff(plus his mind wont be working well anyway, since I'm messing with his central nervous system). And while your character MIGHT rival Juggs in strength, I'll just use the energy I absorb from you, to boost my size and strength, ala Supes, like this...

That's a Millennium Giant. And while I'm not silly enough to compare them to Marvels Celestials(like some), it should be clear that once I do that, your strength won't be anywhere NEAR mine. If you add to that the fact that you'll be weakened and dazed from the energy absorption, I should be able to make short work of you(since I've already shown that intangibility on your part ain't gonna happen).

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ah...
Considering the guy who he did that to, was said on panel, to not be able to phase like Supes can, I'm pretty sure, this won't have any affect on my guy.
If it did, I never said I relyed completely on my intangibility, I was using it as an alternative.

Originally posted by darthgoober
So...
Nope, It's still on.
Unless you have one, wheer it affects someone with actual intangibility, then I'm stumped.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Truthfully...
No, but if your not going to take down your shields, then how are you going to attack me?
SInce your shields are going to be in the way.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Just...
Never said it will, but I will explain it soon.

Originally posted by darthgoober
See...
Alot of people had this ability, but it never helped them in a fight with Surfer.
It's not really an adavantage.

Originally posted by darthgoober
and...
Of course it's survivable.
But, if you leave the battlefield, then that would count as a win for me.
I was only planning to bfr you. Since you want to hid behind your shield, then why don't I create a black hole, right where your standing?

Originally posted by darthgoober
So...
No, but as soon as my internet is working correctly, I will explain. But as of right now, Hal's will should negate all of this, since he has fought off much more.

Originally posted by darthgoober
But you don't have any proof that Hal could resist something like that. But, I do see where your coming from,

Originally posted by darthgoober
...*Cough...

Wait!!!
Your comparing anyone in this thing to Parallax?
Plus, I don't see how this is a low showing, since Parallax is over Galactus.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Any...
I'll try and get scans, when my internet isn't screwy.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Come....

Hmm, I can't see the scan, but I do know what it says. Isn't it talking about how Runner had the ability to transport before he even thinks it? So how would we know, if he's doing it or not, since it was explained AFTER the battle? There not going to give it away during it. Plus, I guess Champion never used the gem either....

Originally posted by darthgoober
Notice...
Why would we see his instant teleportion, when he is already traveling at the speed of light? And how would we see it, when it gets explained how the gem works at the end of the battle? Plus, my guy has been powered up. (Silver Surfer)

Originally posted by darthgoober
I'll...
ok.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Sorry...

Even if it was a small asteroid, it's still more than what Juggs has destroyed with his punches. And as soon as my internets up and running properly, I'll tell you. Plus, if he wasn't using his Space gem, in the Thanos fight,(as you say) then why would Champ be able to use his?

Originally posted by darthgoober
What? Breaking out of the asteroids? Yeah, that was decent. But Juggs has some feats that compare...
How does lifting a side of a building compare to blowing apart a big asteroid?
Plus, I was talking about how hard he can hit, not how much he can lift.

Originally posted by darthgoober
How does breaking out of metal, also compare to crushing an asteroid? It doesn't.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Can you explain of what is happening there?
I really can't tell.

Originally posted by darthgoober
And Surfers victory..
I never said he did anything physical.
I said he has beaten him alone.
While Juggernaut had Omega level Iceman, and Phoenix on his side.
Plus he only knocked him down for a second, and he got right back up, not really a ko.
Surfer on the other hand has dealt with him by himself. While the only feat involving Juggs and him, are him knocking him down for a second.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Actually...
If he can absorb, and reflect, then what does that have to do with this, other than I can do both? Plus, I just wanted to answer your charcter talking about himself(or whatever) with Surfer talking abouut himself. Then I backed up his power absorbation, with scans.
Which you haven't backed up the "beyond infinate" quote.

Originally posted by darthgoober
And if I were...

Not the point.
The point was that I was showing Surfer's near limitless absorbing power, and he could absorb Supes energy.
Because it's not like he exploit's weaknesses or anything.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yes...
But I thought we had all of our character's abilitys. So now we are going to take away from them.
If that's the case, then wouldn't you not have Superman's powers, and I wouldn't have MM's?
Because if that's what your getting at, then I don't get the point of this.
So if I don't have his powers, then your body wouldn't be having Superman's.

Originally posted by darthgoober
No...
He was only like that, because his entire head was gone. I'm pretty sure, not everyone is awake when they don't have a head.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yes...
I was showing that since Surfer survived that vicious attack, and was still awake. I figured that it would leave yours in the dust.
Plus, I also don't think your going to be doing that much damage to my character.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Which...

I was just showing my duribility. So that's just Surfer's part, and he was able to shrug those things off like nothing. So it's going to take more to activate my healing factor.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I'll...
Again, if your not going to take it down, then how are you going to attack me?
Plus, I can just phase through your shield, and through your helmet, as shown as soon as this damn thing is working correctly.

Originally posted by darthgoober
And...
So he cancelled out all of his power? No! The constrct was still there, and it still had it's power.
And did they attack him directly?
Plus, I have more than one construct coming at you, along with with my illusions, and my actual character.
Plus, if your going to have your shields up the whole time, then how are you going to deal with them?

Originally posted by darthgoober
And as...
One thing. The Illusion fooled Galactus!
Galactus!

Originally posted by darthgoober
So unless they're mystic(which they're not), they're still a form of energy, and subject to draining(which I will do). All I have to do, is to expend the effort to absorb 'all' of you at once, and then fight who ever is left.

At this time, you will be distracted, as was my purpose of the illusions in the first place. So basically they, have worked there purpose. Plus, how are you going to drain, the GL ring, and Surfer's powers? It's not happening.

Originally posted by darthgoober
None...
Is this an assumption?
Shit has happened to all my characters before, plus most of this is not going to happen.
If not, I'll just shrink down, and dodge some of your attacks.

Originally posted by darthgoober
As soon as this thing starts working, I will answer this. Your growing, will not do anything, when I also have the ability to grow.

Plus, how are you going to affect my central nervous system?

Originally posted by darthgoober
That's...
As well as you shouldn't. But if you aren't, then how powerful exactly are they?

Originally posted by darthgoober
it...
My intangibility is still on.
Plus, how are you going to drain me? I still have Surfer, and the rings power. Which have shown amazing feats that have been over Superman Blue's. Has Superman ever absorbed something with as much energy as a sun? A red sun, none-the-less. Which is way bigger than a normal sun.

P.S. Can I post scans later?(like in a non offical post) My internet is not working, and I can't click on anything, or else my link closes.(that's why most of your posts with scans, have went unanswered) So far I've had to write this thing 3 times. (this being my 3rd) So it's really neen pissing me off. In the first 2 I posted a couple scans, but this time, I haven't been so lucky. I just needed to get the words out of the way, so I could make way for the scans. I also can't right click anything.

darthgoober Senior Member

*NON OFFICIAL*
I don't mind if you post the pics seperately.

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by bigbran
No, but as soon as my internet is working correctly, I will explain. But as of right now, Hal's will should negate all of this, since he has fought off much more.

Overcoming Sinestro.
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/4411151e.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/fd640099.jpg

Originally posted by bigbran
Even if it was a small asteroid, it's still more than what Juggs has destroyed with his punches. And as soon as my internets up and running properly, I'll tell you. Plus, if he wasn't using his Space gem, in the Thanos fight,(as you say) then why would Champ be able to use his?
Can't remember, but the fact is that he was able to throw a fairly big asteroid, with enough power to make another one blow up, and it still didn't harm Surfer.
I'm just pointing out, how someone with a higher strength level than Juggs faired against Surfer, because you said, you would smack him around.
Originally posted by bigbran
Not the point.
The point was that I was showing Surfer's near limitless absorbing power, and he could absorb Supes energy.
Because it's not like he exploit's weaknesses or anything.

http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GalactusTheDevourer5-18a.jpg

He's also done so to Hulk, and others.

Originally posted by bigbran
Again, if your not going to take it down, then how are you going to attack me?
Plus, I can just phase through your shield, and through your helmet, as shown as soon as this damn thing is working correctly.

Vision has done so, and he would have put him down if it wasn't for Hulk.
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5746/1ta9xq1.jpg
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/913/2qt2gu8.jpg

Originally posted by bigbran
Is this an assumption?
Shit has happened to all my characters before, plus most of this is not going to happen.
If not, I'll just shrink down, and dodge some of your attacks.
As shown here, just by Surfer, but all of my characters can shrink.
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GalactusTheDevourer2-19a.jpg
Originally posted by bigbran
As soon as this thing starts working, I will answer this. Your growing, will not do anything, when I also have the ability to grow.
I can always steal mass.
http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=japan59bu1ok.jpg

Or I can just plain grow.
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/add8db95.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/e3bf1938.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/be12bfd5.jpg

There, that should be it, for my scans.