Silver Surfer vs. The Mangog

Those heralds appeared only in the final panel which was meant purely for comic relief, so it's not a big deal, anyway...

Nuke just died in the Captain America comic and Marvel didn't think twice about bringing him back for Death of Wolverine mini - with not a single word of explanation.

Dr. Cornelius was killed by Maverick years ago, Marvel had no trouble making him the main villain of that arc.

Cyber died not too long ago, he was brought back just so he could die again 😂

Ogun coming back makes sense I guess, not that Marvel tried to explain it in a single sentence.

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DP and Surfer fight was f*cking awesome, that's how genuine heralds should always get portrayed. Asgard sucks.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Plus it removes all of Batman's feats for example.

Then where does it end? Jane beats Shi Ar gods, gets choked out by their Guardians, fights Mangog whilst struggling with Hulk etc....

Writers care not one wit about power levels.

of course they don't but none of that has any bearing on how i feel about SQUIRREL GIRL. i'm not talking about batman. like bran you're trying to generalize from my very specific point. this isn't a 'slippery slope'. just because i don't like squirrel girl as a reliable source of feats, doesn't mean suddenly the forum rules are burning and all sense of rationality has fled from me. 😂 i hate pis, and will invoke it only in extreme conditions. squirrel girl fits those conditions imo. not sure why my belief in that issue seems to bother you or bran, but i'm sure we'll all get over it.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
When it was posted, the last page had the Destroyer and a bunch of other "unlikely" characters such as Morg or whatever IIRC sitting around in a Herald's AA meeting. Then some Superman mark said it's probably non-canon.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What I get from bran is that Surfer is only powerful in comedy books and you shouldn't take that seriously.

Originally posted by Philosophía
It's hard to take it as canon. I mean, it's absurd to a ridiculous level [heralds that are unequivocally dead in a bar and lots of other makes-no-sense to be in continuity stuff?].

I see it similar to the Edifice Rex comic. Galactus grabbing and actually biting planets and stuff? I can't consider that shit valid.

It's also not worth the hassle just to..erm...have a feat where Surfer makes a big energy ball Dragon Ball Z style.

Like I said, nobody really cares except Philosocuck and his partner-in-crime, short-round.

Originally posted by leonidas
of course they don't but none of that has any bearing on how i feel about SQUIRREL GIRL. i'm not talking about batman. like bran you're trying to generalize from my very specific point. this isn't a 'slippery slope'. just because i don't like squirrel girl as a reliable source of feats, doesn't mean suddenly the forum rules are burning and all sense of rationality has fled from me. 😂 i hate pis, and will invoke it only in extreme conditions. squirrel girl fits those conditions imo. not sure why my belief in that issue seems to bother you or bran, but i'm sure we'll all get over it.

It's only a matter of time until Carver argues that everything Morrison wrote about Superman shouldn't count. God help us all.

As an aside, SG is anything but a reliable source of feats. 1 or two issue cameos stops that in its tracks. And I'm not saying Surfer slaps Ego, or throws a sun every thread (outside Thor related threads), I'm just saying that there's a better way to address this than just ruling the whole series as unusable because you laughed in a comic book (I know you didn't say those exact words before you say it).

Originally posted by One Big Mob
You're putting a cage on Carver's penis and letting him roam a schoolyard. He still has his surprisingly thick fingers.

😂

Originally posted by One Big Mob
But your logic can be applied to other issues and people. What's to stop Carver from going around declaring everything as unusable because something was pis to him? I'm sure you remember how bad Quan used to be everytime someone brought up Squirrel Girl... apparently he was correct the whole time?
Your specific logic right now coming from you is you only speaking of SG. That doesn't mean someone else couldn't invent their own guidelines and take your tent poles and tweak them. You want it to only refer to this one thing, but it's not contained Leo. That is why these other things are seeping out.
You're putting a cage on Carver's penis and letting him roam a schoolyard. He still has his surprisingly thick fingers.

It's only a matter of time until Carver argues that everything Morrison wrote about Superman shouldn't count. God help us all.

that logic ALREADY exists bran. it's everywhere in the forum already. i'm speaking of myself regarding squirrel girl but i'm sure i've done some picking and choosing of pis in the past based on my interpretation of a scene. everyone has.
there's nothing to stop people from doing it. i can open 3 threads right now and find someone accusing someone of picking and choosing. it's old news, man. and i feel pretty safe in saying people aren't going to use my stance on sg to justify their own picks and choices. it's been going on way too long for my opinion on this particular issue to hold anyway sway. 😂

There's a difference between not liking one "feat" and not accounting for it, and saying everything that comes out of an entire series might as well be regarded as non canon... even though it very much is canon.

Also the ideals behind the Deadpool fight not counting on the forum are because of a herald meeting... which was non canon but then it was canon, but it should still be treated as non canon, because something happened that had nothing to do with the fight or any fight for that matter?

You don't like the feat, that's fine. Tell me why that feat goes against prior history or should be pis. Skirting around it just to rule out the source is questionable however. You're indirectly discounting most of SG's history doing that.

Originally posted by One Big Mob

You're putting a cage on Carver's penis and letting him roam a schoolyard. He still has his surprisingly thick fingers.

😂 😂 😂

WTF

Originally posted by One Big Mob
There's a difference between not liking one "feat" and not accounting for it, and saying everything that comes out of an entire series might as well be regarded as non canon... even though it very much is canon.

Also the ideals behind the Deadpool fight not counting on the forum are because of a herald meeting... which was non canon but then it was canon, but it should still be treated as non canon, because something happened that had nothing to do with the fight or any fight for that matter?

You don't like the feat, that's fine. Tell me why that feat goes against prior history or should be pis. Skirting around it just to rule out the source is questionable however. You're indirectly discounting most of SG's history doing that.

what feat are you talking about that i don't like? the deadpool feat? i don't care about it either way. i thought it was sort of cool and had no idea if it was canon. you say it is, fine by me. i'd not call it pis.

portrayals of characters and situations in sg are typically out of character for most. loki summoning ego and having him attack ss. ss slapping them all so hard they traveled back to the planets they came from. solid durability feat for spiderman, being slapped through space for countless light years and landing on earth. fully in line with his history.

the nature of the book does not lend itself to a forum setting. not sure why you find that so egregious but that's how i see it. /shrug

squirrel girl herself is difficult to fit into a forum setting as well. but if you want to think she's the most powerful hero out there and able to beat up the marvel universe, and thanos, and whomever, cool. i'll pass and feel confident that anarchy won't overtake the forum because of my decision.

You have opened the floodgates of Carver. I don't know how much longer I can hold him back

I don't put much stock on showings from DP, SG, GP books. However if they appear in say for example Avengers, Spidey, X books, I'd put more stock. Chicken stock.

don't let bran hear you say that. sneer

I'm whispering directly into his ear.

My riot gear is on btw.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
You have opened the floodgates of Carver. I don't know how much longer I can hold him back

How one so old can be so irresponsible... leo, what the hell...

Carveralypse is coming...

Why not just deny books? Half the forum is denying almost all of Namor's feats afterall. Or Thor going all out against Cho.

I have awaken. I sense my presence is needed here.

Carver you're now allowed to deny entire comic book series if you find the feats that come out of there silly to you based on your own set of guidelines. Canon especially.

Lord Leo commands so.

Go, carver. Harass and rape them all.

my hold on the forum grows.... evillaugh

The only hold u have is on your old balls.