Good fight. I donno about stronger,there pretty darn close as far as strength, mental prowess, but caps got it as far as durability goes. Still, i think WW,being that she's the direct result of the gods machinations, might be able to call in a favor and calldown some lightning,the majickal type. If she can out speed cap(she is probably faster)one ill-placed lightning strike is all it would take. Granted that cap hasn't already pummeled her senseless. WW could beat cap,Cap probably would beat WW.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Prove it.War of the Gods showns them as equals. And she wasn't shown nearly as strong as she has of late.
Zeus and Jupiter agreed that they were equal. are you questioning the god's that gave them both thier powers?
She's not superman's equal so she's not Captain Marvel's either. She maybe close but not equal
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Prove it.War of the Gods showns them as equals. And she wasn't shown nearly as strong as she has of late.
Zeus and Jupiter agreed that they were equal. are you questioning the god's that gave them both thier powers?
Are you questioning DC comics who states CM and SM to be equal and SM to be WW superior?
Originally posted by newyorkcares
Good fight. I donno about stronger,there pretty darn close as far as strength, mental prowess, but caps got it as far as durability goes. Still, i think WW,being that she's the direct result of the gods machinations, might be able to call in a favor and calldown some lightning,the majickal type. If she can out speed cap(she is probably faster)one ill-placed lightning strike is all it would take. Granted that cap hasn't already pummeled her senseless. WW could beat cap,Cap probably would beat WW.
Faster I doubt it
Originally posted by D-Block
Are you questioning DC comics who states CM and SM to be equal and SM to be WW superior?
DC comics also said that NO one was next to Superman But WW. so you tell me. It's called Editorial inconsistancies. Besides, marvel isn't as fast as superman and he doesn't have superman's offensive powers or superman's senses. WW has heightened senses and magical weapons that can kill CM out right.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Marvel isn't Superman's equal either. ANd she far far far exceeds CM in Skill.
In strenght and speed he is Superman's equal if not more. CM is more durable than supes IMO they have always been said to be equal and WW has be said to be under supes never his equal.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
DC comics also said that NO one was next to Superman But WW. so you tell me. It's called Editorial inconsistancies. Besides, marvel isn't as fast as superman and he doesn't have superman's offensive powers or superman's senses. WW has heightened senses and magical weapons that can kill CM out right.
How to you figure that CM isn't as fast as Supes we have no proof none that I know of , of them ever racing or one not being able to keep up with the other with both going allout. But they (CM and SM) have been said to be equal in strenght even Supes said it he also said in h2h CM has an advantage I'm not sure but has he ever said that about WW which should be the same since she is more skilled IMO.
Originally posted by D-Block
In strenght and speed he is Superman's equal if not more. CM is more durable than supes IMO they have always been said to be equal and WW has be said to be under supes never his equal.
Her upper strength lvl has never been shown. Every time she has been shown to stress trying to lift something, superman has too. WW's reflexes are faster than Superman's and CM"s. She has blocked plenty of uber fast projectiles, mulitlples, while fighting. he can't be superman's equal in speed and she not when they draw speed from the same God's(kinda) Cap is not more durable than superman in the way your implyin.ne's durable against magic more than superman, but so is diana. not that it would do him any good against diana's weapons. Her stuff can kill God's. cap is NOT a god. Her durability is nearly as good as caps when it comes to blunt force trauma if not the same. She showed that when she crashed into the earth at light speed or faster. thry are so closely matched in every area that the only thing left is skill. And who do you think has gobs of that running out of her ass? Diana.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Her upper strength lvl has never been shown. Every time she has been shown to stress trying to lift something, superman has too. WW's reflexes are faster than Superman's and CM"s. She has blocked plenty of uber fast projectiles, mulitlples, while fighting. he can't be superman's equal in speed and she not when they draw speed from the same God's(kinda) Cap is not more durable than superman in the way your implyin.ne's durable against magic more than superman, but so is diana. not that it would do him any good against diana's weapons. Her stuff can kill God's. cap is NOT a god. Her durability is nearly as good as caps when it comes to blunt force trauma if not the same. She showed that when she crashed into the earth at light speed or faster. thry are so closely matched in every area that the only thing left is skill. And who do you think has gobs of that running out of her ass? Diana.
The power of Zeus is used for durability and he can be faster when they draw their speed from the same god but his is boosted by the power of Zeus because it also amps his other ability's. And WW is not as durable as CM I know she got shields but straight up durability she is not on CM level.
Originally posted by D-Block
The power of Zeus is used for durability and he can be faster when they draw their speed from the same god but his is boosted by the power of Zeus because it also amps his other ability's. And WW is not as durable as CM I know she got shields but straight up durability she is not on CM level.
HMM. Ok. Let's see, when it comes to blunt force trauma, she's just as durable as CM is. What does he use to fight with? his hands. Blunt force trauma. If he even manges to land many punches. She's blocked faster than him. And she's superior in skill. far. He could break his knuckles hitting her bracelts too many times. She's the greek god's chosen daughter. Zeus isn't boosting Cm more than his own "daughter". and since when is zeus's power doing all of these things? durability and such. why not just use zeus to power cap and leave all the demi god's and human's out of it? As it stands, Diana is far far superior to cap in skill and so closely matched in every other area that cap cannot do anything but loose.
Originally posted by Draco69
I personally think WW would net most of the wins. They're even in strength, speed and durability (blunt-trama wise that is) but Diana has three major edges:Skill. Batson fights like a brick. A child brick. The Wisdom of Solomon can't (no pun intended) match WW's pure MA skills. She's far more the tactician than Billy whose immaturity is a downside.
Magical resistance. They both have this trait. However Diana's rather immune to Billy's magical attacks. He can attack her with Zeus' lightening all he wants. Diana's withstood and buffered lightening from Zeus himself. No comparision. Cap's edge over Superman doesn't apply to WW.
Weapons. Diana carries several normally. The tiara won't be a major factor unless Diana manages to decaptitate him with it. The invisible plane will be useful for extra defense and invisibility. What really nets her the majority of the wins is her lasso. The Lasso of Truth reverts anything to it's true form and forces people to speak what she desires as long as it's truth.
A quick win for Diana is just to lasso his ass and make him speak the word "Shazam" and it's all over.
I think Billy has arguably better Durability than Supes. I mean she cant take Heat Vision like he can.
captain marvel, is roughly supermans equal, and I meen "roughly".
What splits them apart with the obvious signs, superman has incredible senses, no need to describe them.
He has out performed captain marvel in circumstances that many heroes have stated only superman could do it.
His willpower is one of the highest in comics let alone DC.
I like captain marvel as he is another dynamic to DC, as he has had awesome fights with superman, the animated program took advantage of this in JLU.
But superman has always been left in the dark about where his powers just all of a sudden influx to levels knowone will admit, even me (supergeek) would admit... like when he just overpowered darksied, then took him to the sun before he knew what superman was doing, then pounded him senseless. Where the hell did that power come from?
When he turned the wheels of magghedon, okay? that feat is going at low level pc superman levels, but still pc superman levels, which is a great feat.
Taken all this into account captain marvel is something different again, a being powered by the gods, using their abilities as his own, superman is naturally, when under the rays of a yellow sun solar system, becomes god-like, with unknown levels of these powers... they are different, and are both great to read.
Now with wonder woman, a perfect woman created by the gods, to spread the gods will of truth and justice across the world ridden with evil.
Now she is very skilled, to not admit this is of the oddest rejections, she's have trouble with captain marvels strength when he catches her with a punch, swipe or jab, she'll feel it and he will not be as lenient as a certain super, but then again she could catch him with her weapons that are able to affect many powerful beings, i see this tipping in her favour 6/10, as they are both powerful heroes that will take everything before bowing out.
end of discussion on my part.
peace.
Originally posted by Supreme being
There aint no way marvel lossig to WW. CM took on the spectre in dov and that was before he got his power up so bam.
OMG U r so not serious are you? U haven't ever heard of PIS have you? WW could Knock The Spectre around with the GodWave if PIS were used as well. The Spectre Can't be beaten by any normal super hero joe schmo.
Originally posted by MattDay
cBut superman has always been left in the dark about where his powers just all of a sudden influx to levels knowone will admit, even me (supergeek) would admit... like when he just overpowered darksied, then took him to the sun before he knew what superman was doing, then pounded him senseless. Where the hell did that power come from?
When he turned the wheels of magghedon, okay? that feat is going at low level pc superman levels, but still pc superman levels, which is a great feat.
end of discussion on my part.
peace.
My two Cents worth :
Its believed that Supes powers are derived from the absorption of Solar energy. I’m not convinced, the feats Supes regularly performs suggest an alternate, but more powerful energy source. The absorption of Yellow Solar energy may be the key to unlocking this Meta ability.
All of Superman’s powers involve the conversion of Solar energy to meta ATP in the cells. But instead of an Energy source, maybe this acts as more of a FEEDBACK system, similar to the presence of Insulin in the human body. I.e. the yellow Solar energy produces a specific chemical reaction/enzyme that allows Supes to tap into a greater energy source. The more Solar energy he absorbs the greater the influx from this separate Source. The nature of this other energy source, is speculative at best. Maybe it’s a limitless energy source devised by the Kryptonian’s that rivals that of even the Guardians, or maybe its linked to his unknown but exotic extra organs. We know that his body has organelles a bit like a cross between a chloroplast and a mitochondria. (Which absorb the Sunlight energy and convert it into a specific but exotic enzyme). But what happens after this Feedback system is activated is anyones guess.
I theorise this photosynthetic process may kick start some form of matter to energy conversion. I.e. his food is converted to pure energy I.e. E=MC2. Imagine every time he eats, he’s consuming more energy than a nuclear megatons warhead.
Now its unlikely that this process can occur in his cells, as his molecules would be ‘annihilated’ by the energy conversion. I therefore theorise that his body maybe linked to a form of Hyper space (Another Dimension) such as the phantom zone. It is here that this matter to energy conversion may occur. Hyper Space could also explain his other abilities such as Flight, Heat Vision and ‘Super Breathe’. It would also incorporate the popular theory of tactile telekinesis.
Complexity is measured on how much energy a given amount of mass can manipulate. As we know the Kryptonian’s are second only to the New Gods and the Guardians in advancements in science. Its therefore probable to suggest that they found a way to give the Kryptonian cell the power of the Atom.
Maybe there’s an even greater energy source, Have any of you any ideas how Supes powers could be developed ?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
OMG U r so not serious are you? U haven't ever heard of PIS have you? WW could Knock The Spectre around with the GodWave if PIS were used as well. The Spectre Can't be beaten by any normal super hero joe schmo.