Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Parallax remade the universe from a scratch.
UN made the Multi-verse out of nothingness.
Parallax didn't remake the universe, He erased the multiverse. did you read the tie in books where he was erasing all of the alternate realities as well? He wiped out the multiverse and then remade it.
Mxy hasn't shown a limit on his power. So we dont know what it really is. All we know is that the only person ever to beat him was the spectre and that wasn't even by force rather by depowering him. This battle is likely a tie as Ominpotent beings or in this case close to omnipotent since no one is trully omnipotent but TOAA/presence, can literally fight forever.
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Myx > Multi-verse
Parallax > Multiverse
UN > Multi-verse
IG > I-IG > UN > MultiverseSo it's safe to say:
IG >> UN = Parallax = Myx > Mutli-verse
I just dont' get how you come up with these equations that always seem to lean to one side. since you know so much about dc power, add in the source, the god wave, kismet, the grand mother box, the worlogog and the endless into your nice and one sided power scale. do you knwo enough about DC's cosmic powers to make fair assumptions?
Marvel takes it.
Parallax didn't erase the Multi-verse in one thought, it was more of a chain reaction effect.
The UN erased the Multi-verse in one instant.
Now Mxy did the same thing, he also erased the Multi-verse in one instant in that non-canon Kingdom joint, Then he brought it back As it Was.
The UN not only erased the Multi-verse just as quickly, but the UN also Remade the Multi-verse in that One instant, and that Tops Mxy's Feat.
Then we have the IG, which is Far beyond the UN.
Case closed.
PS. Forgot to mention, and that was only Reed Richards using the UN.
So can you conceive Galactus and the UN, when the UN is an Aspect of Galactus
Originally posted by Mr Master
Marvel takes it.Parallax didn't erase the Multi-verse in one thought, it was more of a chain reaction effect.
The UN erased the Multi-verse in one instant.
Now Mxy did the same thing, he also erased the Multi-verse in one instant in that non-canon Kingdom joint, Then he brought it back As it Was.
The UN not only erased the Multi-verse just as quickly, but the UN also Remade the Multi-verse in that One instant, and that Tops Mxy's Feat.
Then we have the IG, which is Far beyond the UN.
Case closed.
And again, how do you come up with ur equations? How is the IG above the Un? there are different IG's in different realities. the Un trumps the entire multiverse,and that would include the realities where the other Ig's are working. the what if's where people had the Ig, all would get erased by the un. So how is the Ig more powerful than the Un?
And where did it say that mxy coudlnt' erase and remake the universe all in one instant. IT didn't serve the story for him to do so. He's a job. So he was jobbing the entire time thru. Where as the story with reed called for the universe to be remade quickly. I dont see a difference in power lvl. only in the way the stories were laid out.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And again, how do you come up with ur equations? How is the IG above the Un? there are different IG's in different realities. the Un trumps the entire multiverse,and that would include the realities where the other Ig's re working. the what if's where people had the Ig, all would ger erased by the un. So how is the Ig more powerful than the Un?
I feel your concern.
Not just an IG, but an Incomplete IG at that.
Quasar directed ALL the power of the Ultimate Nullifier at Magus alone
Quasar was actually able to set it off, the same device Reed wiped out and remade the Multiverse with.
Magus controlled those energies and negated Quasar with them, Absolute control..
Notice how they engulf Quasar evenly.
"With a Thought, I turn the Universe's most devastating weapon upon it's bearer"
This is Magus, with an Incomplete IG.
Originally posted by Mr Master
I feel your concern.Not just an IG, but an Incomplete IG at that.
Quasar directed ALL the power of the Ultimate Nullifier at Magus alone
Quasar was actually able to set it off, the same device Reed wiped out and remade the Multiverse with.
Magus controlled those energies and negated Quasar with them, Absolute control..Notice how they engulf Quasar evenly.
"With a Thought, I turn the Universe's most devastating weapon upon it's bearer"
This is Magus, with an Incomplete IG.
But it doesn't make sense. In marvel, the what if's represent the other realities that the LT governs. There are other realities where the IG's are at full power and being used. There are places where thanos is god with the IG, where warlock keeps the IG, where even the impossible man keeps the IG. So there is no way the IG can be more powerful than the Un when one, there are many many IG's, and two if the UN tried to erase the multiverse and one of the IG wielders in one of the other wrealms didn't want to get erased, they wouldn't have been erased.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
But it doesn't make sense. In marvel, the what if's represent the other realities that the LT governs. There are other realities where the IG's are at full power and being used. There are places where thanos is god with the IG, where warlock keeps the IG, where even the impossible man keeps the IG. So there is no way the IG can be more powerful than the Un when one, there are many many IG's, and two if the UN tried to erase the multiverse and one of the IG wielders in one of the other wrealms didn't want to get erased, they wouldn't have been erased.
Not exactly.
There have been Three other depictions of the IG in other Universes, and they have all been weaker than the 616 IG.
The Infinity Gauntlet has counter parts in Alternate Realities
But the Power of the IG evidently fluctuates from Universe to Universe.
In this What If Realm, it granted the Silver Surfer absolute control over ONE Universe only though
Silver Surfer remakes Universal Death
Ultimately the Silver Surfer was corrupted by the Power, and decided to get rid of it
He destroyed the Infinity Gauntlet, and apparently himself and Shalla
Actually Silver Surfer created a Planet far away from the Earth, and there lived in peace with Shalla-Bal for the rest of his life.
In this Other What If Reality, the Infinity Gauntlet is even Weaker still.
Here Impossible Man RUNS away from the Cosmics with the Infinity Gauntlet...Surfer even warns him about Eternity....
Runs out of the Universe really.
Impossible Man with the Infinity Gauntlet was only able to destroy a Galaxy....this is obviously not the same Gauntlet.
Again...this really demonstrates how weak this OTHER Infinity Gauntlet is.
Here Impossible Man forces Galactus to help him Re-create his home world...and Silver Surfer is worried because Eternity is coming...who will crush Impossible Man and his Gauntlet.
Here after Galactus Re-created Impossible Man's world...IM actually bargained the Gauntlet for this....he can destroy a Galaxy...but...he can't Re-create a Planet.
[QUOTE=7459530]Originally posted by Mr Master
And the Third depiction was totally pathetic.
In that Cross-over garbage.
(no scans) [/QUOTE
I'm not buying that at all. Each IG is supposed to make the wearer take the place of that eternity. If the 616 Ig was as powerful as you make it out to be, then Multi Eternity/Infinity would have had something to say about it. They could have cared less about "One Aspect" of themselves. I'm not biting the multiple IG's are less than the original at all. I'm not buying that the Un is less than the IG when the Un remade the " multiverse" while Multi Etenity and infinity didn't give a crap about the Ig. nope, not gonna buy this one this time.
Even an incomplete IG could affect the multiverse, so Thanos /w/ a complete IG should be able to greatly affect and alter the multiverse...... and also we know that the UN in Reed Richards hands destroyed/re-created all that exists (the multiverse), so in Galactus's hands who knows what it would be capable of, but its fair to assume that it could do much more....... for those reasons Marvel takes this smokingcowboy
Originally posted by galan7777777
Even an incomplete IG could affect the multiverse, so Thanos /w/ a complete IG should be able to greatly affect and alter the multiverse...... and also we know that the UN in Reed Richards hands destroyed/re-created all that exists (the multiverse), so in Galactus's hands who knows what it would be capable of, but its fair to assume that it could do much more....... for those reasons Marvel takes this smokingcowboy
One thing that makes this marvel side weak is the fact that Mr Mxy and Parallax have been shown to be able to live outside of reality where nothing exist. There are multiple versions of Thanos and galactus, but only one Mr Mxy and One parallax. making them more multiversal and more durable.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'm not buying that at all. Each IG is supposed to make the wearer take the place of that eternity.
Then what's the point of debating with you?
Your going to tell me, with NO Proof, that "EACH IG" is supposed to make you Eternity?
And yet I just SHOWED You, where the IG is NOT even close to what Thanos had.
Impossible Man was only able to destroy a Galaxy
Silver Surfer ONLY had control over ONE Universe.
I just showed you the scans from the What If issues and you blatantly deny it.
(making me waste my time....my chidren.)
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
If the 616 Ig was as powerful as you make it out to be, then Multi Eternity/Infinity would have had something to say about it. They could have cared less about "One Aspect" of themselves.
We've been through this already.
Thanos only wanted one Universe
Eternity asking LT for help
LT will not interfere because of what I just said
READ the Scans!
Thanos ONLY WANTED ONE UNIVERSE!!!
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'm not biting the multiple IG's are less than the original at all.
firefirefireph
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'm not buying that the Un is less than the IG when the Un remade the " multiverse"
Quasar directed ALL the power of the Ultimate Nullifier at Magus alone
Quasar was actually able to set it off, the same device Reed wiped out and remade the Multiverse with.
Magus controlled those energies and negated Quasar with them, Absolute control..
Notice how they engulf Quasar evenly.
"With a Thought, I turn the Universe's most devastating weapon upon it's bearer"
Your willfully ignoring On Panel art and character/writer statements.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
while Multi Etenity and infinity didn't give a crap about the Ig. nope, not gonna buy this one this time.
I told you why they didn't care.
So don't "buy it."
But then again you shouldn't even be debating,
because if you won't or can't except factual statements and artistic representations coming from the Company that Creates it,
who's going to convince you? hm
Originally posted by Mr Master
Then what's the point of debating with you?Your going to tell me, with NO Proof, that "EACH IG" is supposed to make you Eternity?
And yet I just SHOWED You, where the IG is NOT even close to what Thanos had.
Impossible Man was only able to destroy a Galaxy
Silver Surfer ONLY had control over ONE Universe.
I just showed you the scans from the What If issues and you blatantly deny it.
(making me waste my time....my chidren.)We've been through this already.
Thanos only wanted one Universe
Eternity asking LT for help
LT will not interfere because of what I just said
READ the Scans!
Thanos ONLY WANTED ONE UNIVERSE!!!
firefirefireph
I told you why they didn't care.
So don't "buy it."
But then again you shouldn't even be debating,
because if you won't or can't except factual statements and artistic representations coming from the Company that Creates it,
who's going to convince you? hm
And it's not the fact that Thanos only wanted one universe, Thanos stated that he was the God of this universe and all others as well right? Wouldn't that even encroach upon the LT's power? The Un Remakes all of the multiverse at a whim, something that the Lt has rule over, yet the ig trumps the un. It's more like continuity crap to me than what your presenting. someone over stepped thier bounds and marvel hasn't retconned any of it or fixed it yet.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlHow did i know that you would come back with some kind of gibberish like this? There is no point arguing with you, because you wont hear anything other then what you want to hear suicide1wa 🙄
One thing that makes this marvel side weak is the fact that Mr Mxy and Parallax have been shown to be able to live outside of reality where nothing exist. There are multiple versions of Thanos and galactus, but only one Mr Mxy and One parallax. making them more multiversal and more durable.
