Atheism Test

Originally posted by AngryManatee
If neandertals and humans interbred, then why is it that the same differences between neandertal and premodern human DNA are still evident in comparisons between neandertal and modern human DNA?

Not to mention the differences found in their DNA are located in the same sites as where humans and chimps differ.

Edit: Concerning the snake business, why is it that these snakes with vestigial spurs also have a useless hip structure that is literally suspended by the muscle and organs around it, but is not connected to the rest of the snakes skeletal structure?

Ask a molecular biologist. No, seriously, where is your support for the claim that differences between neandertal and premodern human DNA are still evident in comparisons between neandertal and modern human DNA? What is your definition of a "premodern" human?

The differences found in whose DNA are located in the same sites as where humans and chimps differ? (This makes no sense).

Vestigal spurs have been shown to have function; therefore, they are not proof of evolutionary occurrence. In some species of male Bovidae snakes, spurs are used to excite the females by rubbing along their backs. In fact, spurs are very different from nails and claws, and they are very common in birds.

Originally posted by ThePittman
Some things that you have skipped over

Medicine used for humans is the same for mammals which as the same genetic makeup as us, if we are different from the animals how does "our medicine" work on them?

How do you explain animals like the octopus being able to problem solve and open the glass jar if they can not reason? How do you explain the bird using tools to get to food and not only using but modify the tool to make it more effective if animals can not invent?

If you say that animals haven't evolved from one from to another and that at the time of creation that all life on Earth was created by God than there would be fossil records of the modern dolphin, dog, bunny and what ever from that time on. So where are they?

You said that Neanderthals were not animals because the bread with modern humans but what about Homo habilis, Homo erectus, Neanderthals, Cro-Magnons?

Humpback whales do have vestigial legs as do dolphins, fish and many other species.

If you have really studied anything about animal biology you would know that they evolve. I'm not talking about humans and monkeys, you can take that out of the equation but they do evolve and adapt to their environment and this can easily be shown and reasoned. It is only one that are in fear and denial that say they can't because that would be saying that we came from monkey. My wife goes to CSU vet program and is also Catholic and understands this as well as most of her Catholic and Christian students, teachers and doctors.

[QUOTE=8866553]Originally posted by ThePittman
Some things that you have skipped over

Medicine used for humans is the same for mammals which as the same genetic makeup as us, if we are different from the animals how does "our medicine" work on them?

I have written you two (or more) lengthy posts detailing why humans are not animals. This post seems like a duplicate post, with the same questions as the previous one (e.g., medicine, the octopus, etc.)

I have already acknowledged that there are similarities between humans and animals, but for the umpteenth time, similarity does not suggest, mean, imply, denote, or prove common ancestry. Get over it.

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How do you explain animals like the octopus being able to problem solve and open the glass jar if they can not reason? How do you explain the bird using tools to get to food and not only using but modify the tool to make it more effective if animals can not invent?

I have already answered this in a previous post.

If you say that animals haven't evolved from one from to another and that at the time of creation that all life on Earth was created by God than there would be fossil records of the modern dolphin, dog, bunny and what ever from that time on. So where are they?

You are attempting to use reverse psychology. (Nice try though). The burden of proof for evolutionist continues to rest with them in terms of producing fossil remains that substantiate their assertions that life evolved from a primordial cell into complex life forms. Creationist don't need fossil remains to support creation because we maintain (as based on the Bible) that all life came into being fully developed.

You said that Neanderthals were not animals because the bread with modern humans but what about Homo habilis, Homo erectus, Neanderthals, Cro-Magnons?

I am not a paleontologist and neither are you (just thought that I should put that out there). I never said that Neanderthals were not human. If they interbred with modern humans (which is what I said) then that must mean that they were human.

Humpback whales do have vestigial legs as do dolphins, fish and many other species.

No they don't. Those so-called legs are bones that aid in copulation. In sperm whales for example they assist in securing the muscles of the genitalia.

If you have really studied anything about animal biology you would know that they evolve. I'm not talking about humans and monkeys, you can take that out of the equation but they do evolve and adapt to their environment and this can easily be shown and reasoned. It is only one that are in fear and denial that say they can't because that would be saying that we came from monkey. My wife goes to CSU vet program and is also Catholic and understands this as well as most of her Catholic and Christian students, teachers and doctors.

No they don't. There is no evidence of evolution. You have failed to prove your premise time and again.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
And as I stated before, how is that punishment when they are so well adapted to traveling on their stomachs?

oooo trivia question: what is it that humans have, that no other mammal posseses, but is also found on reptiles and birds? This question is anatomy related.

First off humans are not mammals. Second, have you resorted to trick questions and trivia because you cannot support your evolutionary claims? Come on now. You can do better than this.

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Originally posted by ThePittman
As a side note if we could life 500 times our weight would we have invented forklifts? If we could have run 60 miles an hour would we have invented bicycles? If we could see at night would we have invented night vision? There are myriad of things that we can't do that animals can so just because they can't go to law school doesn't mean a thing and it is laughable that you even bring it up.

You have still failed to convince me that humans are animals. The things that I have stated that animals cannot do have nothing to do with physical abilities per se but with reasoning capabilities (I have stated this at the outset and I have not deviated).

Can you see this ThePittman?

Originally posted by AngryManatee
I'm still waiting for a response.

Neanderthals are human.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Some animals can psychoanalyze humans and they do show ingenuity and what is called fluid intelligence.

Support? Where is your support for the claim that some animals can psychoanalyze humans brother?

Animals can only think in concrete terms? They cannot read or write. All they do is perform based on conditioned response (getting a treat every time they do what their master wants).

Originally posted by Nellinator
What about lungfish?

Neanderthals are looking like they are actually human right now.

I believe that the point is that lungfish are not the ancestor of amphibians. I said it before and I will say it again: fish are fish and amphibians are amphibians. Besides, lungfish do not have any trace of legs, they are skeletally (is this a word?) different from amphibians, and their internal organs are very different. The transition from fish to amphibian would have been a major one. The pelvic girdle would have needed to form, the gills would have had to mutate into a working lung system, and the eyes and ears would have had to mutate to function in dry, atmospheric condtions (talk about fat chance, there ain't--oops, I mean is not--a skinny chance, in shape chance, or obese chance that this could have occurred)

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[QUOTE=8866553]Originally posted by ThePittman
Some things that you have skipped over

Medicine used for humans is the same for mammals which as the same genetic makeup as us, if we are different from the animals how does "our medicine" work on them?

I have written you two (or more) lengthy posts detailing why humans are not animals. This post seems like a duplicate post, with the same questions as the previous one (e.g., medicine, the octopus, etc.)

I have already acknowledged that there are similarities between humans and animals, but for the umpteenth time, similarity [B]does not suggest, mean, imply, denote, or prove common ancestry. Get over it.

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How do you explain animals like the octopus being able to problem solve and open the glass jar if they can not reason? How do you explain the bird using tools to get to food and not only using but modify the tool to make it more effective if animals can not invent?

I have already answered this in a previous post.

If you say that animals haven't evolved from one from to another and that at the time of creation that all life on Earth was created by God than there would be fossil records of the modern dolphin, dog, bunny and what ever from that time on. So where are they?

You are attempting to use reverse psychology. (Nice try though). The burden of proof for evolutionist continues to rest with them in terms of producing fossil remains that substantiate their assertions that life evolved from a primordial cell into complex life forms. Creationist don't need fossil remains to support creation because we maintain (as based on the Bible) that all life came into being fully developed.

You said that Neanderthals were not animals because the bread with modern humans but what about Homo habilis, Homo erectus, Neanderthals, Cro-Magnons?

I am not a paleontologist and neither are you (just thought that I should put that out there). I never said that Neanderthals were not human. If they interbred with modern humans (which is what I said) then that must mean that they were human.

Humpback whales do have vestigial legs as do dolphins, fish and many other species.

No they don't. Those so-called legs are bones that aid in copulation. In sperm whales for example they assist in securing the muscles of the genitalia.

If you have really studied anything about animal biology you would know that they evolve. I'm not talking about humans and monkeys, you can take that out of the equation but they do evolve and adapt to their environment and this can easily be shown and reasoned. It is only one that are in fear and denial that say they can't because that would be saying that we came from monkey. My wife goes to CSU vet program and is also Catholic and understands this as well as most of her Catholic and Christian students, teachers and doctors.

No they don't. There is no evidence of evolution. You have failed to prove your premise time and again. [/B]

You similarity thing is total and complete BS; it does show that something does belong to a certain category. A lion is not a tiger but is very similar and would fall into the cat family. You are so far out there and deluded it is amazing, took much of what you have posted before about religion with a grain of salt but to make the claims that the modern animals have been around since the creation of the Earth is scary.

I could post links on the reasons why humans are mammal, animals, and go in length how things evolve and how (OMFG) you think Neanderthals interbreed with modern human. I'm not a paleontologist but I have read and studied the subject and talked in length to those that are and even though I know about the subject and never claimed I was an expert allows me to use my knowledge. You are not a zoologist or even a vet so how can you make these claims about animals, using your logic?

I could post that the sun is yellow and you would ask me to prove it, there is enough evidence and common knowledge that proves that humans are animals/mammal and that animals evolve and adapt and that you know nothing on this and are scared that if animals evolve that means we came from monkeys and your whole world is shattered.

Well back to reality and I'm leaving the fantasy world of JIA pitt_wave

I used to live in JIAs world. I'm immensely happy I jumped off. There's a lot a freedom in that. 😊

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[COLOR=darkblue]Saying that humans have evolved does not make it true.

Pointing at someone else's error does not validate your own error.

Not that {{QS}} was in error in the first place.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Saying that humans have evolved does not make it true.

This has got to be the dumbest thing that I have ever read in my life. { {QS} }, [B]you personally are not dumb, but what you wrote about babies is asinine. [/B]

Evolution is filtering as originally only the strong survive to have children and the strong must have certain genetics to make them strong to make them strong.Evolution has died down recently due to medical advance's.However if you don't believe in evolution your just an idiot

So i'll give you this

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Originally posted by ThePittman
This is getting pointless and you keep evading the questions and said that you have answered it which you have not. First and foremost whales DO have vestigial legs this is not part of breeding, how and the hell is a tiny little bone going to help a humpback whale mate, get over it. I can show you many links on this subject if you would like.

You similarity thing is total and complete BS; it does show that something does belong to a certain category. A lion is not a tiger but is very similar and would fall into the cat family. You are so far out there and deluded it is amazing, took much of what you have posted before about religion with a grain of salt but to make the claims that the modern animals have been around since the creation of the Earth is scary.

I could post links on the reasons why humans are mammal, animals, and go in length how things evolve and how (OMFG) you think Neanderthals interbreed with modern human. I'm not a paleontologist but I have read and studied the subject and talked in length to those that are and even though I know about the subject and never claimed I was an expert allows me to use my knowledge. You are not a zoologist or even a vet so how can you make these claims about animals, using your logic?

I could post that the sun is yellow and you would ask me to prove it, there is enough evidence and common knowledge that proves that humans are animals/mammal and that animals evolve and adapt and that you know nothing on this and are scared that if animals evolve that means we came from monkeys and your whole world is shattered.

Well back to reality and I'm leaving the fantasy world of JIA pitt_wave

Don't get mad at me because you have failed to convince me that humans are animals.

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Hahaha classic.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Don't get mad at me because you have failed to convince me that humans are animals.

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Don't get mad at me because you have failed to convince me that humans are animals.

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No one here is trying to convince you of anything. We are all trying to convince everyone else how LAMO you are, but you keep beating us to it. 😂

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No one here is trying to convince you of anything. We are all trying to convince everyone else how LAMO you are, but you keep beating us to it. 😂

It's not LAMO, it's LMAO.

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It's not LAMO, it's LMAO.

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Originally posted by ThePittman
I think he was right with the LAMO 😉 😛

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It's not LAMO, it's LMAO.

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😕 I admit, I am not good at spelling, but I think I can spell LAMO. 😕

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
😕 I admit, I am not good at spelling, but I think I can spell LAMO. 😕

What does "LAMO" mean?

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