Originally posted by Dinalfos
Uhm no, he wanted to stop Juggernaut from killing those innocent people. Juggernaut knocked him down because he landed on top of him while he didn't expect it. He was calm when that happened. Plus, he still wasn't in the mood. It wasn't until later that he got really angry and easily overpowered him. And even then he didn't particularly feel like fighting
He didn't expect the Juggernaut to still be coming true, but Hulk is never calm there and lifting someone up is a far cry from overpowering them.
Originally posted by Accel
Juggernaut wouldn't know, since he can't feel pain. Hulk's punch would probably feel the same as the Godblast to him.
You don't have to feel pain to notice a difference in force. You could tell the difference between a 5 year old hitting you and an infant even though neither would hurt.
Originally posted by olympianYeah pretty much but basically like all of Betageuze's thrads this has become a Hulk vs Juggy thread for no reason.
This thread quickly became who is the most insane faboysm side.For the common sense folk read the first 5 pages. It all makes for better understanding.
The question was can Immortal Hercules defeat Cain in a Tug o War in which the evidence points to juggs more than Herc.
Basically Thor is equal to Herc in strength for the most part.
Juggs has already proven more than a match for thor Physically
This a tug of war, not a fight. Common sense tells that when strength is comparable (no matter who you think has (or not) an edge) you have to look for other advantages.
Cain has the advantages in motion and stamina. I mean even when classic Juggernaut has felt physical pain (wich brings down one of the internet myths about the character - he can not feel physical pain) i dont recall him ever being stopped DIRECTLY (meaning one on one, like..a war tug) on his motion. Even War Hulk iirc didnt fully succeed.
So with motion on your side in a tug of war, its fair to see that while some struggle is there because of comparable strength levels, Juggernaut would most likely win.
Originally posted by Silas Burr
He didn't expect the Juggernaut to still be coming true, but Hulk is never calm there and lifting someone up is a far cry from overpowering them.
Yes, Hulk was calm. And yes, he overpowered him. Juggernaut planted his knees in his back and his hands on his head. The Hulk pulled him with no leverage at all.
Originally posted by Dinalfos
No offense, but doesn't he need to create momentum first? If Herc prevents him from taking his first step forwards.....
Juggernaut is arguably stronger, too.
But really, the SLIGHTEST bit of momentum is all it takes for Juggernaut. In order to do that, Herc would have to move before the start of the tug-o-war. Which means cheating.
Anyway. Juggernaut wins.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Juggernaut is arguably stronger, too.But really, the SLIGHTEST bit of momentum is all it takes for Juggernaut. In order to do that, Herc would have to move before the start of the tug-o-war. Which means cheating.
Anyway. Juggernaut wins.
Nah, they're about even in the strength department. And if not, it will still be impossible to tell anyway.
Btw, you have no idea how hard it is to build momentum when the counter force is equal? I'm not buying that Juggernaut only needs a little bit of it. A few steps should be enough, but I doubt it's gonna be that easy.
Originally posted by Dinalfos
Nah, they're about even in the strength department. And if not, it will still be impossible to tell anyway.Btw, you have no idea how hard it is to build momentum when the counter force is equal? I'm not buying that Juggernaut only needs a little bit of it. A few steps should be enough, but I doubt it's gonna be that easy.
...But that's the THING about Juggernaut. He's MYSTICALLY enchanted, my friend. As SOON as he produces even the slightest momentum, that's all he needs.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
...But that's the THING about Juggernaut. He's MYSTICALLY enchanted, my friend. As SOON as he produces even the slightest momentum, that's all he needs.
Walking forwards without anything to obstruct you might do, but this is Hercules we're talking about. Unless you can show me something that proofs that he doesn't need to build momentum?