Link vs Cloud and Sephiroth (The Advent children versions)

Originally posted by ESB -1138
I'm sorry I could have sworn when I was fighting an Iron Knuckles that Link's sword wasn't going through it. I'm sorry but you are a fanboy that overrates Link. And don't forget that boulder that I was swinging my sword and all that happened was my sword bounced off it.

Right, I mean it's not llike your sword did not kill him, no it killed the ghost in the armor. 🙄
Again, do you know what game restriction is?

Originally posted by Kaled
theres NOTHING stopping them slicing the crap out of link, stop bringing in all the irrelevent things that won't have time to come into play ffs

Because you say so, just like you claimed cloud and sephiroth are way out of links league in swordsmanship, and had the nerve to call me a fanboy.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Right, I mean it's not llike your sword did not kill him, no it killed the ghost in the armor. 🙄
Again, do you know what game restriction is?

Because you say so, just like you claimed cloud and sephiroth are way out of links league in swordsmanship, and had the nerve to call me a fanboy.

i don't make claims i know how good they are. your saying your not a Link Fanboy??? Hmph, you still don't got it

Originally posted by Kaled
i don't make claims i know how good they are. your saying your not a Link Fanboy??? Hmph, you still don't got it

I'm a link fanboy because I side with link? You must live in a very simply world my friend. I never said sephiroth was not good, But, Asked what makes him better than link. I'm still waiting for an answer.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I'm a link fanboy because I side with link? You must live in a very simply world my friend. I never said sephiroth was not good, But, Asked what makes him better than link. I'm still waiting for an answer.

Heartless angel - Reduces enemy health and mana to 0

Supernova - causes shit loads of damage and causes a stat of confusion

are the major magic powers Links gonna be trashed by.

Them aside, Spehiorth is an elite swordsman who fought in a War, we were never told much about this war but its gives you the gist it was some kinda world war. In this war Sephiroth was renoun and feared for his skills. So we KNOW he's a very skills swordsman, you've seen in AC how fast he can be, and if you've played Kingdom Heartyhs what where Seph and cloud go all out, so fast you can barely see whats happening its awesome. The Lenght of his sowrd with automatically give him an advantage over link in a stand up fight as i'm sure your aware. He can make big ass fire black around him the seriously hurt anyone close not to mention the fact it pulls them into it. He can fly, could be very crucial considering the battle is taking pace on top of a skyscraper. Teleportation, just worth mentioning he does like to spam this in fights to get the edge on his foes.

Ok i answered your question so answer mine:

Whats stopping them leaping at Link and forcing him off the skyscraper? (Link would die from the fall, and IF he didn't i'm sure seph would bring the scraper ontop of Links head)

As for Cloud... well deal with Omni-Slash first okay?

Originally posted by Kaled
Heartless angel - Reduces enemy health and mana to 0

Supernova - causes shit loads of damage and causes a stat of confusion

are the major magic powers Links gonna be trashed by.

Those are his final fantasy powers, this advent children sephiroth. two different things. Unless he performed thos moves in said movie, they are not applicable.

Originally posted by Kaled

Them aside, Spehiorth is an elite swordsman who fought in a War, we were never told much about this war but its gives you the gist it was some kinda world war. In this war Sephiroth was renoun and feared for his skills.

I never said sephiroth was not skilled swordman or down played him in anyway. I asked what makes him more skilled than link? None of those reason's you listed proves anything about his skill.

Originally posted by Kaled

So we KNOW he's a very skills swordsman, you've seen in AC how fast he can be, and if you've played Kingdom Heartyhs what where Seph and cloud go all out, so fast you can barely see whats happening its awesome.

Kingdom of hearts is not applicable here.

Originally posted by Kaled

The Lenght of his sowrd with automatically give him an
advantage over link in a stand up fight as i'm sure your aware. He can make big ass fire black around him the seriously hurt anyone close not to mention the fact it pulls them into it. He can fly, could be very crucial considering the battle is taking pace on top of a skyscraper. Teleportation, just worth mentioning he does like to spam this in fights to get the edge on his foes.

Okay, this big black thing you named, refresh my memory. Because if it's not from advent children it's not counting.

Originally posted by Kaled

Ok i answered your question so answer mine:

Whats stopping them leaping at Link and forcing him off the skyscraper? (Link would die from the fall, and IF he didn't i'm sure seph would bring the scraper ontop of Links head)

As for Cloud... well deal with Omni-Slash first okay?

He can easily grow big to stop the skyscrapper of use the golden gaunlets. Unless said buildings are the empire state building it should not be a threat. Flying doesn't give him anymore of an advantage, and sephiroth being a badguy makes him susceptibale to the master sword and light arrow which can stun certain monsters as well.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Those are his final fantasy powers, this advent children sephiroth. two different things. Unless he performed thos moves in said movie, they are not applicable.

Kingdom of hearts is not applicable here.

Okay, this big black thing you named, refresh my memory. Because if it's not from advent children it's not counting.

it was discussed a awhile back that in these kind of films just becuase the power was not used, does NOT mean it was not albe to do it, "AC version" is just distingusing it between Safer Sephiroth unless stated otherwise. and because it is not, we must assume Sephiroth is indeed equipped with his fully power set.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I never said sephiroth was not skilled swordman or down played him in anyway. I asked what makes him more skilled than link? None of those reason's you listed proves anything about his skill.

Ugh yes it does. Think logically if he was feared in a war then he must hve had exceptional skills. Has Link fought in a full on war? War are often usedto define the most skilled fighters e.i. Lu Bu

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
He can easily grow big to stop the skyscrapper of use the golden gaunlets. Unless said buildings are the empire state building it should not be a threat. Flying doesn't give him anymore of an advantage, and sephiroth being a badguy makes him susceptibale to the master sword and light arrow which can stun certain monsters as well.

What are you kidding me? Fly not a big advantage?? in a city?? revise your statement. Arrows ain't going to hit him, look back to what has been said Sephiroth has been in a war, with guns that are like 10 times faster than arrows.... master sword comes into play when he hits sephiroth .... not going to happen.

Now state clear proof of Links skills with a sword, he's suerior strength and how he is fast enough to take on BOTH cloud and sephiroth.

Anyway, the sheer pyshics of cloud sword being swung against the master sword would result in a knock effect reguardless of how strong link is, he couldn't possibly fend off cloud and sephiroth... not even in a fanboys dreamworld

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds8zmqTo9fs

Originally posted by Kaled
it was discussed a awhile back that in these kind of films just becuase the power was not used, does NOT mean it was not albe to do it, "AC version" is just distingusing it between Safer Sephiroth unless stated otherwise. and because it is not, we must assume Sephiroth is indeed equipped with his fully power set.

That makes no sense, what similarites besides in appearnece did safer sephiroth display with regular sephiroth?

And advent children isn't canon what's so ever, So, how can you make a connection between them?

Originally posted by Kaled

Ugh yes it does. Think logically if he was feared in a war then he must hve had exceptional skills. Has Link fought in a full on war? War are often usedto define the most skilled fighters e.i. Lu Bu

So, because he's feared in war he's stronger than link?
Link has been in constant battles, But, because he hasn't fought in wars he's weaker than seph,OK.

Originally posted by Kaled

What are you kidding me? Fly not a big advantage?? in a city?? revise your statement. Arrows ain't going to hit him, look back to what has been said Sephiroth has been in a war, with guns that are like 10 times faster than arrows.... master sword comes into play when he hits sephiroth .... not going to happen.

Arrows in in zelda are nothing like the arrows in real life, the range for instance and power for instance.

Originally posted by Kaled

Now state clear proof of Links skills with a sword, he's suerior strength and how he is fast enough to take on BOTH cloud and sephiroth.

Because he has more versatility, you honestly thank he's going to limit this to a sword fight?

And proof of his strength, Dude how much can lift?

Originally posted by Kaled

Anyway, the sheer pyshics of cloud sword being swung against the master sword would result in a knock effect reguardless of how strong link is, he couldn't possibly fend off cloud and sephiroth... not even in a fanboys dreamworld

Yet, sephiroth is able clash swords with cloud and his sword remains in his hand. It's clear who the fanboy is, especially when you asked me to prove links physical strength. 😆

Originally posted by Kaled
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds8zmqTo9fs

That's not canon, you can't take feats from a game where dumbo can shoot bubbles and kill people seriously.

Link puts on his "Magic Cape" making him invisible, and invincible. Cloud and Sepiroth can't even scratch him now. Their swords and magic will go right through him, like they were attacking the air. He is able to slice them from the inside if he wants now. Link wins 🙂

Originally posted by MetaHybrid
Link puts on his "Magic Cape" making him invisible, and invincible. Cloud and Sepiroth can't even scrath him now. Their swords and magic will go right through him, like they were attacking the air. Link wins.
🙂

::HighFive::

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
That makes no sense, what similarites besides in appearnece did safer sephiroth display with regular sephiroth?

Super nova is the different and his form also grants his dam near immortality so thats what.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
And advent children isn't canon what's so ever, So, how can you make a connection between them?

same way the connection is made between all the Links, its the same character different game

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
So, because he's feared in war he's stronger than link?
Link has been in constant battles, But, because he hasn't fought in wars he's weaker than seph,OK.

i can't believe i have to spell this out for you. To Survive a war when your on the front lines its takes more than "constant battle" skill, it takes serious power when your weapon is a sword and eveeryone else's is a gun. We know Sephiroth can evade bullets, they mean he is nimble and can move his weapon very quickly. now PROOF to me link can match this. no more suppossing or i will ingore your point of aruement becuase it is not backed up by fact.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Arrows in in zelda are nothing like the arrows in real life, the range for instance and power for instance.

do they travel 5000 meters per second? because unless they go faster, sephiroth can skill evade them

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Because he has more versatility, you honestly thank he's going to limit this to a sword fight?

do you honestly think he's going to have the time to do anythink else? with cloud and sephiroth constantly hacking away

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
And proof of his strength, Dude how much can lift?

those gauntlets are for lifting only, they can't be used in a fight, so this "strength" is irrelevent

Yet, sephiroth is able clash swords with cloud and his sword remains in his hand. It's clear who the fanboy is, especially when you asked me to prove links physical strength. 😆 [/B][/QUOTE]
dude its sheer pyshics he cannot fend themboth off unless he can move his arms as fast as a humming bird beats its wings

So it turns out most of links strengths here are based on a load of crap.

And for your infomation Link vs Cloud and Link vs Sephiroth link lost in everyone, so how can he hope to beat them both??

Originally posted by Kaled
Super nova is the different and his form also grants his dam near immortality so thats what.

It does matter, because it's not CANON

Originally posted by Kaled

same way the connection is made between all the Links, its the same character different game

No, he isn't, where did you get that from? Every zelda game is about a different character named link.

Originally posted by Kaled

i can't believe i have to spell this out for you. To Survive a war when your on the front lines its takes more than "constant battle" skill, it takes serious power when your weapon is a sword and eveeryone else's is a gun. We know Sephiroth can evade bullets, they mean he is nimble and can move his weapon very quickly. now PROOF to me link can match this. no more suppossing or i will ingore your point of aruement becuase it is not backed up by fact.

Sigh, I could say the exact same for link since he fought ganon's army of monsters all by himself. And now your taking this out of a context, I never asked who is more nimble, I asked what makes seph higher in swordsman ship versus link.

Originally posted by Kaled

do they travel 5000 meters per second? because unless they go faster, sephiroth can skill evade them

When did safer sephiroth dodge bullets

Originally posted by Kaled

do you honestly think he's going to have the time to do anythink else? with cloud and sephiroth constantly hacking away

That argument is stupid at best, obviously link has fought enemies whislt switiching items. That's not even a serious problem.

Originally posted by Kaled

those gauntlets are for lifting only, they can't be used in a fight, so this "strength" is irrelevent

Yes it is relevant, because this is more than a sword fight, I never said he was going to use it in a sword fight.

Originally posted by Kaled

dude its sheer pyshics he cannot fend themboth off unless he can move his arms as fast as a humming bird beats its wings

Dear god, So, every instance seph blocked sword strike from cloud his hands were moving as fast as humming birds? I hope to GOD your not implying that.

Originally posted by Kaled

So it turns out most of links strengths here are based on a load of crap.

And for your infomation Link vs Cloud and Link vs Sephiroth link lost in everyone, so how can he hope to beat them both??

Because people aren't out to debate logically, they just want their favorite cahracter to win.

Ok, your being pathetic and diverting the point so, 1 thing at a time.
Riddle me this, cloud and sephiroth clash blades about once ever 1.6 seconds what standing toe to toe. are you telling me Link can pull off a darth maul and fend them off, and succcessful launch an aggressive play?

keep to one point at a time or i mind be unable to resist the urge to rip your head off

I hope you saw my post. Please counter it.

Originally posted by Kaled
Ok, your being pathetic and diverting the point so, 1 thing at a time.
Riddle me this, cloud and sephiroth clash blades about once ever 1.6 seconds what standing toe to toe. are you telling me Link can pull off a darth maul and fend them off, and succcessful launch an aggressive play?

keep to one point at a time or i mind be unable to resist the urge to rip your head off

If your getting angry over a debate this petty than you most either have a short temper or be very angst.

Anyway, yeah he can, look at what meathybrid said. He can complete negate their attacks with his cloak or sheild himself with nayru's love.

Mind you he can only use it 30 seconds at a time, it should give him enought time to attack. He has more options than seph and cloud.

And to be honest, if link has all his items, than he gains the triforce.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
If your getting angry over a debate this petty than you most either have a short temper or be very angst.

Anyway, yeah he can, look at what meathybrid said. He can complete negate their attacks with his cloak or sheild himself with nayru's love.

Mind you he can only use it 30 seconds at a time, it should give him enought time to attack. He has more options than seph and cloud.

And to be honest, if link has all his items, than he gains the triforce.

no, its that i make a point and you pick out the smallest words and assume i mean something completely different and its really really annoying because you've done it 11 times already

triforce is not an item thus does not count, its like saying Sephiroth aquires the life stream so he is Safer Sephiroth

the cloak can be dispelled, you think cloud doesn't have such as simple power?

Originally posted by MetaHybrid
I hope you saw my post. Please counter it.

Heartless angel, locks on to anything with life force and ends it

Originally posted by Kaled
no, its that i make a point and you pick out the smallest words and assume i mean something completely different and its really really annoying because you've done it 11 times already

Your over exerting yourself, maybe you should take five. Because I haven't done such a thing, you on the other hand have taken things out of context and insulted me. Take it asy already.

Originally posted by Kaled

triforce is not an item thus does not count, its like saying Sephiroth aquires the life stream so he is Safer Sephiroth

Triforce is an item, since it can be possessed by a person. link just never get's the chance, how else would the triforce break into pieces and be transported if it was not an item that could be wield?

Originally posted by Kaled

the cloak can be dispelled, you think cloud doesn't have such as simple power?

I never said he didn't, it was a responce to your question. Remeber when you asked how link well escape being attacked every 1.6 seconds?

And link can easily teleport using faru's wind.

Originally posted by Kaled

Heartless angel, locks on to anything with life force and ends it

if advent children is not canon this entire thread "doesn't count"

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Your over exerting yourself, maybe you should take five. Because I haven't done such a thing, you on the other hand have taken things out of context and insulted me. Take it asy already.

that is not a dissucion point that is a fact i am telling you, you have, its not up for debate, it is a fact

I don't think the "magic cape" can be dispelled. It's an item that Link equips much like the ribbon in FF7. Casting dispell on a person who has ribbon equipped doesn't negate ribbons effects on the wearer.