Link vs Cloud and Sephiroth (The Advent children versions)

Started by kamikz11 pages
Originally posted by beta ray bob
i have thought this through, steal is an ability that youget from matieria, from FF VIIyou can steal potions and what not from an enemy, you do not have to locate the item

Again, isn't that gameplay only? Besides, it's random items, not just anything Cloud wants that Link so desperatley needs...

Originally posted by dirkdirden
I'm not getting into this with the crazed link mafia, but I do have a question.

How would Link deflect spells like Frog, mini, poison, paralyze, slow, stop, drain, and demi. I know magic probably isn't allowed in this thread because they never show that they even have materia in AC, but still would like to know your answer.

Well I would say he wouldn't need to, seeing as he could be invinsible. Also, Link from AOL has reflect spell, which will send them back in Cloud's face....

Tripple post. 😉

Originally posted by beta ray bob
i have thought this through, steal is an ability that youget from matieria, from FF VIIyou can steal potions and what not from an enemy, you do not have to locate the item
There, you just owned yourself. 👆

This is AC Cloud who NEVER used Steal, if you actually read the first post you'd known this already, but I suppose you didn't.

See? Not thought through.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
I'm not getting into this with the crazed link mafia, but I do have a question.

How would Link deflect spells like Frog, mini, poison, paralyze, slow, stop, drain, and demi. I know magic probably isn't allowed in this thread because they never show that they even have materia in AC, but still would like to know your answer.

Link has many different shields that make him immune to magic and physical harm, but besides that, the Moon Pearl would prevent Link from being transformed, and the Triforce could also prevent him from being trasnformed since it protected Link in Twilight Princess. Things such as Demi could be stopped by the "Protection Ring" which makes all attacks done to Link take off only 1/20 of his total health. (Each attack does 1 Heart of damage). For something like Mini, Link could bring out the Giant's Mask which increases his size greatly. Can't think of anything for the others right now.

Originally posted by kamikz
Well I would say he wouldn't need to, seeing as he could be invinsible. Also, Link from AOL has reflect spell, which will send them back in Cloud's face....

Tripple post. 😉

Depending on how you look at the fight Cloud could cast reflect on himself and then cast the spell on him self (in FF world that negates reflect). As for invisible he would have to silent and invisible because they can just cast in the direction of sound or were the grass is shaped like feet, or when they get hit by one of links attacks they can cast.

Originally posted by MetaHybrid
Link has many different shields that make him immune to magic and physical harm, but besides that, the Moon Pearl would prevent Link from being transformed, and the Triforce could also prevent him from being trasnformed since it protected Link in Twilight Princess. Things such as Demi could be stopped by the "Protection Ring" which makes all attacks done to Link take off only 1/20 of his total health. (Each attack does 1 Heart of damage). For something like Mini, Link could bring out the Giant's Mask which increases his size greatly. Can't think of anything for the others right now.

The only shield that I know of that has that kind of property would be the mirror shield and that only blocks projectile magic like a fire spell.

But thanks for you answers but to me it really doesn't seem like link can block all there spells, but it doesn't matter in this thread it was just something I was thinking about. laters.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
Depending on how you look at the fight Cloud could cast reflect on himself and then cast the spell on him self (in FF world that negates reflect). As for invisible he would have to silent and invisible because they can just cast in the direction of sound or were the grass is shaped like feet, or when they get hit by one of links attacks they can cast.

The only shield that I know of that has that kind of property would be the mirror shield and that only blocks projectile magic like a fire spell.

But thanks for you answers but to me it really doesn't seem like link can block all there spells, but it doesn't matter in this thread it was just something I was thinking about. laters.

Oh sorry I didn't mean shields as in "holding by your hand and blocking stuff" I mean Magical Barriers that surrond Links body. I think most if not all of them would stop Cloud's Magic. Also I'm not quite sure casting Reflect on himself would work. I mean, does the spell know to travel to Link once it's reflected off of Cloud? Since FF VII was a turn-based game I can see it working there, but I'm not sure the spell would be reflected to Links direction.

The Mirror Shield could probably block more more than just fire. Link was able to reflect magical attacks by just parrying with his normal metal shield in Twilight Princess, so I think the Mirror Shield would be able to reflect more powerful projectiles.

Finally, Link can split himself into four seperate people using the Four Sword, and can then use the Magic Cape to become Invisible. So now Cloud and Sephiroth are facing four invisible and invincible Links.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
Depending on how you look at the fight Cloud could cast reflect on himself and then cast the spell on him self (in FF world that negates reflect). As for invisible he would have to silent and invisible because they can just cast in the direction of sound or were the grass is shaped like feet, or when they get hit by one of links attacks they can cast.

The only shield that I know of that has that kind of property would be the mirror shield and that only blocks projectile magic like a fire spell.

But thanks for you answers but to me it really doesn't seem like link can block all there spells, but it doesn't matter in this thread it was just something I was thinking about. laters.

I said INVINSIBLE, not invisible! (The big letters doesn't mean I'm screaming, just so you notice they are different words. 😛)

Also, that is just because it would be impossible if both cast a spell, then it bounced between them for all eternity, or that if you did not have dispell a magic battle would be useless.
Either way, if he is going to cast things on himself and then do all that, Link has without a doubt already gotten up his defences or killed him.

I'm sorry but I never saw Cloud use any materia whatsaoever in Advent Children. In fact he doesn't use it at all. Why else do you think he had it all in that treasure chest?

Well this argument is stupid because it's allowing all of Link's items and not any of Cloud's materia...

I think it is better to not consider any of their items and argue who would win in a skill-based battle.

I think it's safe to say in a skill based battle Cloud and Sephiroth would take Link down or even by themselves. Link is a great swordsman but his power comes from the large amount of items he gathers during his quests, which is why Link with all his items might be too much for Cloud and Sephiroth who are limited to AC.

And that's why this thread is dumb. It should be Link with all his items vs. Cloud with all his and then it would be a good match.

But do remember this is a handicap match.

The way I see it Cloud is the first to die, and Link gives Sephiroth a hell of a fight but eventully falls due to fatige or Sephiroth overpowering him.