Thrawn vs Revan.

Originally posted by Escape81
Unfortunately, a blast from a Star Destroyer won't be sufficient to make Thrawn's fleet "go bye bye", considering how Thrawn's ships also possess shields - and he knows far more about Star Destroyers than Revan does.

Thrawn > Revan.

You need to understand that.

The only way Revan will win is if he has some magical Force power that could turn the tide.

Actually according to various Novels, games, and such, Star Destroyers firing all their weapons at once do quite a bit of damage, so Thrawn can wait for them to come close and lose tactics, or shoot at them from a distance and attempt to keep them, Revan can apparently do both types of Force Storm, and likely tons of other attacks

And about Thrawn knowing more about Star Destroyers, if this is a fair fight, Revan will know the ins and outs, since Revan doesn't live in this Era

Sure Thrawn is the better strategist, but Revan has the force and that is a huge advantage.

Originally posted by Kas'Im
Sure Thrawn is the better strategist, but Revan has the force and that is a huge advantage.

What point are you trying to make? I already agreed; if it comes down to sheer tactics, Thrawn will crush and defeat Revan. If Revan's Force Storm is on par with Palpatine's (which I doubt, considering how his holocron apparently taught it to Bane - who had to combine his might with others to create a Force Storm on par with Palpatine's), then he will be able to win.

Nothing indicates that Revan possesses a Force Storm anywhere near the level of Emperor Palpatine's, and nothing indicates that Revan is as remotely skilled in Battle Meditation as Bastilla is (if he even possesses it at all).

The best he can do is rely on his precognition, which will help him out quite a bit - but it isn't a guarenteed victory.

What point are you trying to make? I already agreed;

It wasn't so much directed towards you, just to everyone who was saying that Thrawn is a better tactician, therefor he wins.

if it comes down to sheer tactics, Thrawn will crush and defeat Revan.

Wait hold up, since when has it been definite that Thrawn is that much better than Revan in regards to tactics? I wouldn't quite say he'd crush Revan, most definitely beat him but crush him?

If Revan's Force Storm is on par with Palpatine's (which I doubt, considering how his holocron apparently taught it to Bane - who had to combine his might with others to create a Force Storm on par with Palpatine's), then he will be able to win.

Oh Revan's force storm is undoubtedly not on Palpatine's level, but I don't think he would have to combine his strength with others like Bane did, Bane was just probably not on his level at that particular point.

But anyways, I wasn't really just talking about the force storm, but also things like Battle Meditation (which he possibly knows), Precognition etc. The force really is a huge advantage.

Nothing indicates that Revan possesses a Force Storm anywhere near the level of Emperor Palpatine's

True, I agree with this.

and nothing indicates that Revan is as remotely skilled in Battle Meditation as Bastilla is (if he even possesses it at all).

Well while Bastilla had a particular talent for battle meditation, she was still clearly not as strong as Revan in the force, so I doubt that she would be leagues above him or anything with the skill - clearly better but I doubt by that much.

And I would think that it's pretty likely that Revan knew of BM, it seemed to be a pretty popular trait with jedi at the time, and considering that Revan before his memory wipe was naturally always craving knowledge, it would seem logical that he would put extra effort into obtaining as much knowledge as he could. However, even if he doesn't know BM, he knows other things that would be helpful.

The best he can do is rely on his precognition, which will help him out quite a bit - but it isn't a guarenteed victory.

True, it wouldn't be a guaranteed victory, but in my eyes, the force is a huge added advantage. Not saying that it's definitely true, it's just how I see it.

Even if his Force Storm isn't as good, it will still wipe out Ship after Ship

Originally posted by Darth Kreiger
Even if his Force Storm isn't as good, it will still wipe out Ship after Ship

You don't know Thrawn do you? He prepaers for everything. He'll porbably have all his ships packed with Ysalamari. No Force Storm now!

Hmm, this is tough. Revan is good, very good. But even then, I have to go with Thrawn. He's the master of master strategists.

One way another due to the way teh thread creator made this battle it is going to be nasty. Pitched battles are nasty buisness and I doubt either Thrawn or Revan would ever volentary find themselves using such tactics.

Hell this entire battle is somewhat redicules since it's already preset. Neither commander can really do anything but cross their fingers and hope their crew is better than the other side. It's like two identical cars slamming into eachother at the exact same speed.