Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Actually, the percentage of people who are as such is very small in prisons compared to those who commit petty crimes..Drug users, who should be in hospital and rehab, not a prison. Poor and uneducated people is the highest percentage of people in prisons.
So what do you do with them? The rapists and murderers I mean.
Originally posted by lord xyz
Make em, work, or go to school, shit like that. Y'know that community service stuff, but on a larger scale. People commit crimes because they've nothing else better to do, if they work, they have no time to commit crimes.
👆 Prohibition is on the raise. I hope it will be even more so in UK.
There is this false stereotpye that all people in prisons are evil horrible people who should be kept away.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
👆 Prohibition is on the raise. I hope it will be even more so in UK.There is this false stereotpye that all people in prisons are evil horrible people who should be kept away.
I agree, but....there are people that should be kept away..and prison is quite useful for that.
Originally posted by Bardock42
So what do you do with them? The rapists and murderers I mean.
Probation.
Not every person in the prison is a serial killer. People kill for different reasons, and to group them all in one single category would be wrong.
Thus to think a single prohibition for each person who is accused of murder is also wrong, and very ineffective.
Majority of rapists are people who know the victim(s). They should be on Prohibition as well, not left to rot in prison. That certainly is not gonna make world a better place, nor will it clean this world of rapists.
Again, a very small percentage are psycho serial rapists who pick their victims at random. They are too to be worked with. Perhaps then many stereotypes of rapes could be broken and a progression can be made in this filed.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I agree, but....there are people that should be kept away..and prison is quite useful for that.
At the moment there is a prison overcrowding, because people like petty drug dealers are put in prison. Certain people, perhaps who are a danger to society should be kept away from society.
But not necesseraly in an insititute full of people who are like minded. Perhaps in a probation centre where people can work on them, make them release their mistakes, and perhaps make a progress.
I believe that leaving them in the same place as the people who have commited terrible crimes is not productive for anyone.
Prison reform, perhaps?
Originally posted by Bardock42Rapists, are looking for sex right? Take em to a brothel. And let them work their.
So what do you do with them? The rapists and murderers I mean.
By murderers, I assume you mean ****heads who don't understand why they kill, therapy usually helps for people like that. (But if we're going to discuss the affects on therapy, we would need a new thread.)
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
At the moment there is a prison overcrowding, because people like petty drug dealers are put in prison. Certain people, perhaps who are a danger to society should be kept away from society.But not necesseraly in an insititute full of people who are like minded. Perhaps in a probation centre where people can work on them, make them release their mistakes, and perhaps make a progress.
I believe that leaving them in the same place as the people who have commited terrible crimes is not productive for anyone.
Prison reform, perhaps?
That is probably necessary anyways. But the general idea of prisons is a pretty good one in my opinion.
Originally posted by lil bitchinessthere's another problem with prison.
At the moment there is a prison overcrowding, because people like petty drug dealers are put in prison. Certain people, perhaps who are a danger to society should be kept away from society.But not necesseraly in an insititute full of people who are like minded. Perhaps in a probation centre where people can work on them, make them release their mistakes, and perhaps make a progress.
I believe that leaving them in the same place as the people who have commited terrible crimes is not productive for anyone.
Prison reform, perhaps?
Lets say you're short on money, so you steal a TV, but you're not very good at it and get caught. You're sent in prison and have 2 or 3 cell mates.
"What're you in for?"
"Stealin a TV."
"How'd you get caught?"
"(Blah, blah, blah)"
"Oh, you should've done this, or if you did this you would've succeeded"
"Yeah do that, or do this"
After he gets let out, he knows how to steal better, and steals without getting caught, all because of prison. Any questions?
Originally posted by dani_californiaWhy should it be bad to be a drug dealer? Just because you didn't think of it first.
If they fixed the drug laws there would be half as many people in prison. I say big time drugs dealers get time and users get community service and rehab. That makes a lot more sence.
Originally posted by lord xyz
there's another problem with prison.Lets say you're short on money, so you steal a TV, but you're not very good at it and get caught. You're sent in prison and have 2 or 3 cell mates.
"What're you in for?"
"Stealin a TV."
"How'd you get caught?"
"(Blah, blah, blah)"
"Oh, you should've done this, or if you did this you would've succeeded"
"Yeah do that, or do this"After he gets let out, he knows how to steal better, and steals without getting caught, all because of prison. Any questions?
This is a documented phenomenon, of prisoners learning from one another.
For worse crimes too.
Originally posted by lil bitchinessLike murder?
This is a documented phenomenon, of prisoners learning from one another.
For worse crimes too.
Originally posted by Bardock42Prison for life? That's aweful, what makes you say they won't learn their lesson, and what if they're innocent? You only get one trial.
If it is forever..yeah.