Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
No. He is an Omega mutant.He blew up his home world. His entire world. That's why it's 'Sun', not Son.
But, if I recall, didn't 'our' Gambit eventually manifest his OWN new sun/son (he was referred to as both, in the comics...) powers? And didn't he also burn them out combating the original New Sun?
Curious for a being with unlimited potential to burn out.
Originally posted by Soljer
But, if I recall, didn't 'our' Gambit eventually manifest his OWN new sun/son (he was referred to as both, in the comics...) powers? And didn't he also burn them out combating the original New Sun?Curious for a being with unlimited potential to burn out.
I haven't read it in a while, but I'm pretty sure he burned them out on purpose. He was trying to over load New Suns powers.
Originally posted by Darth Macabre
I haven't read it in a while, but I'm pretty sure he burned them out on purpose. He was trying to over load New Suns powers.
I'm aware. Fact is, though, he still burned out his powers. And overloaded the OTHER Gambit's.
Unless we disagree over the fact that Omega Mutants DO have unlimited potential....I think the logical conclusion is pretty clear.
Unlimited, by definition, is without limit, unconstrained, unconfined, boundless, etc.
Obviously, if something can be overloaded or burned out, it isn't quite boundless.
Originally posted by Soljer
I'm aware. Fact is, though, he still burned out his powers. And overloaded the OTHER Gambit's.Unless we disagree over the fact that Omega Mutants DO have unlimited potential....I think the logical conclusion is pretty clear.
Unlimited, by definition, is without limit, unconstrained, unconfined, boundless, etc.
Obviously, if something can be overloaded or burned out, it isn't quite boundless.
Not necessarily...His powers can return to him with time perhaps, only the future can truly tell that. I know 'in-verse' everyone thinks those powers are gone, but you can't completely denounce the possibility for them coming back. And about New Sun being overloaded; that wasn't his power. His powers might be unlimited, but adding to those powers might overload.
I don't believe Gambit is/was/can be Omega, but there is evidence that New Sun is a different story.
I thought that New Sun and Gambit were of equal power - hence one being able to be overloaded, and the other burnt out in the process? No?
Regardless, I don't see ANYONE with unlimited potential being overloaded. Was New Sun an INCREDIBLY powerful mutant? Yeah. Cosmic threat, even? Definitely!
Omega?
Nah.
Regardless of that fact, though, I still stand by the argument that Iceman and New Sun (both at their full, unrealized potential) would have damn near the exact same powers. Stalemate.
My internet has been down for past couple of days but I'm back.
Originally posted by jrodslam
This pic here doesnt actually say from the inside out, but every molecule inside Legions body is instantly frozen.If Gambit is able to hold out and prevent that, then a time freeze would certainly do the trick.
Originally posted by superbatman86
No matter how strong gambit gets he can never get as strong as Iceman can.
Originally posted by Soljer
I'm aware. Fact is, though, he still burned out his powers. And overloaded the OTHER Gambit's.Unless we disagree over the fact that Omega Mutants DO have unlimited potential....I think the logical conclusion is pretty clear.
Unlimited, by definition, is without limit, unconstrained, unconfined, boundless, etc.
Obviously, if something can be overloaded or burned out, it isn't quite boundless.
All he had to do is shunt the excess energy or, even better, blast it back at Gambit who would then have no way to defend against it. Unfortunately Marvel can't just kill off Gambit and give New Sun a solo series( like they should) so New Sun lost.
Also, like you said, are we really sure omega mutants can have unlimited potential, or is it just an unknown level of potential?
PS. It's only a stalemate until Gambit decides to use something like a BFR or freezing Iceman(in time...not like...icing him).
P.S.S. To all those who don't know the difference between New Sun and New Son. New Son was simply what everyone in Marvel THOUGHT he was called before he actually explained that he was actually called New Sun and for a very literal reason.
My roomate and his best friend use to give me hell all the time before the new Ion series came out. The held that Silver Surfer was the most powerful common showing hero. I would bring up my favorite Kyle as Ion and they would start with this going joke. "Who the **** is ION?" So I started to always reply "He sure as hell ain't a naked bald silver dude on a surfer board". Later I added "Taken orders from a giant hungry *** in a purple dress." 😛
No offense I love oh Norrin.
Originally posted by Soljer
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