Onslaught vs. Tyrant

Originally posted by Xplosive
Yes, he could.

And there is more characters again remove Franklin and Onslaught wouldn't have been the factor that he was.

Galactus has many poor showings, with time he was like a joke.

Which was a shame when you think about the way Stan Lee actually wanted him written.

I think it would be a still hard battle for SS.

The fight between Cable wasn't particular hard for SS IMO.

Psi-Lord destroyed alternate Universe. Now you know why I think Onslaught should defeat FP Tyrant.

So Onslaught could destroy the universe now???

I don't where he did it, but look:

So you have no idea of how he did it if it was under his own power ore if he started a chain reaction.

And I believe Mr Master. And Psi-Lord should supposedly be lesser than FP Franklin. No Celestial came close to that.

Which is absolutely redicolus when you think about The Celestials said that Franklin perhaps one day would rival the Celestials yet Psi-Lord who is beneath Franklin in therms of power are said to be more powerful then Eternity this doesn't make any sense what so ever.

I think Hyperstorm could be in the league of those five mentioned.

Not a chance all of them are omniversal, Hyperstorm didn't get anywhere close to that.

He should do far more than what he used against Galactus. I don't think Galatcus should be able to feed on his energy, because Galactus doesn't have infinite energy.[/B]

No he doesn't but he has a infinite hunger that he used against Hyperstorm therefore Hyperstorm could draw as much energy from Hyperspace he wanted because Galactus would draw it right out of him.

Yes, Galactus feeds all form of energies, but there are energies, powers greater than him and could overpower him and I think Hyperstorm should be one of those who should be able to overpower him. [/B]

And I can assure you that Hyperstorm isn't in the deparment that has power that surpasses Galactus you need to go to IMO mid level abstracts to find things that would have a energy output so great that Galactus wouldn't be capable of absorbing it, and nothing shows that Hyperstorm could produce energies at that level.

btw which power are you thinking off???

Originally posted by Utrigita
So Onslaught could destroy the universe now???

Look, what we said, if he had total Franklin Richards power, then yes, he should be able to. Onslaught could be easily written as a Universal threat due to his massive powers.

Originally posted by Utrigita
So you have no idea of how he did it if it was under his own power ore if he started a chain reaction.

Well, if Mr Master said it was Psi-Lord top feat, it was probably under his own power.
And no matter what Celestial said, I always thought FR powers go beyond them.
It seems Psi-Lord proved them wrong, since no Celestial did what Psi-Lord did.
And based on that FR is omega level and can alter reality, then he should with no doubt go beyond any Celestial.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Not a chance all of them are omniversal, Hyperstorm didn't get anywhere close to that.

Well, since primordial energies in Marvel Universe (Omniverse) are from hyperspace and since Hyperstorm had control over them, he shoud be able to do anything and in theory, could be written to be Omniversal level.

Originally posted by Utrigita
No he doesn't but he has a infinite hunger that he used against Hyperstorm therefore Hyperstorm could draw as much energy from Hyperspace he wanted because Galactus would draw it right out of him.

btw which power are you thinking off???

Powers? Like I said, his powers are drawn from hyperspace, he should do anything, he should defeat Galactus.
He should overpower Galactus with his power. Or maybe Hyperstorm can't drawn endlessly from hyperspace, that is why he wasn't able to defeat him.

If Tyrant's mind was his weak point Galactus would have exploited it. One thing that bothers me about just giving this fight to Tyrant, is the fact that Franklin Richards was one of the beings fused within. I think we should take that into consideration. Franklin is respected by the Celestials. Onslaught is no pushover, so just because the Hulk knocked him out of his boots means little, as it was only his physical form that was destroyed, and not Onslaught himself. I wonder what type of force that Hulk punch had behind it, because who knows... It may have even been able to knock Tyrant for a loop. I did not say who would win here so ease up. i was just pointing out a couple of variables that may have been overlooked.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Look, what we said, if he had total Franklin Richards power, then yes, he should be able to. Onslaught could be easily written as a Universal threat due to his massive powers.

Yet he wasn't and why was that, IMO because the couldn't use Franklins power els they would have made some high level cosmic get involved.

Well, if Mr Master said it was Psi-Lord top feat, it was probably under his own power.
And no matter what Celestial said, I always thought FR powers go beyond them.
It seems Psi-Lord proved them wrong, since no Celestial did what Psi-Lord did.
And based on that FR is omega level and can alter reality, then he should with no doubt go beyond any Celestial. [/B]

Then why isn't Psi-Lord mentioned in his hierarchy as being at the same levels as eternity thats basically what you are saying. Actually his power doesn't, they could have destroyed his pocket universe if they wanted seeing as how Kubik a sentient Cosmic Cube that warped a entire pocket Dimension stated that his power was as nothing next to a Celestial.

Well, since primordial energies in Marvel Universe (Omniverse) are from hyperspace and since Hyperstorm had control over them, he shoud be able to do anything and in theory, could be written to be Omniversal level. [/B]

And since Galactus has the PC that are functing in the entire Marvel Universe (omniverse) so should he??? bad logic Xplosive, the elders had the primordial power and they got eaten like a snack by Galactus.

Powers? Like I said, his powers are drawn from hyperspace, he should do anything, he should defeat Galactus.
He should overpower Galactus with his power. Or maybe Hyperstorm can't drawn endlessly from hyperspace, that is why he wasn't able to defeat him. [/B]

Just like Galactus can with the PC??? the main Difference from my point of view is that Galactus has atually shown that he has a enormous control over the PC just like his creating Tyrant has. No he shouldn't overpower a being that feeds on energy like we breath air. Thats my theory that either he couldn't draw endlessly ore he couldn't take the pressure any longer.

Originally posted by Utrigita
And since Galactus has the PC that are functing in the entire Marvel Universe (omniverse) so should he??? bad logic Xplosive, the elders had the primordial power and they got eaten like a snack by Galactus.

Isn't hyperspace actually the the source of all energy in the Marvel Universe?

Originally posted by Utrigita
Then why isn't Psi-Lord mentioned in his hierarchy as being at the same levels as eternity thats basically what you are saying. Actually his power doesn't, they could have destroyed his pocket universe if they wanted seeing as how Kubik a sentient Cosmic Cube that warped a entire pocket Dimension stated that his power was as nothing next to a Celestial.

We can ask Mr Master? He said Psi-Lord destroyed an Alternate Universe.
Do you really doubt that?
And based on that, Celestial wouldn't even be a challenge.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Yet he wasn't and why was that, IMO because the couldn't use Franklins power els they would have made some high level cosmic get involved.

No, but because such things are happening all the time in comics.
You know how many times someone didn't use such an such power, although you know he had them.
It's just written like than and that is it. Living Tribunal asked other cosmic power houses to help him in destroying Galactus from existence. I mean LT asked for that. We know he should be able to do that by himself and actually without any trouble.

And even Scarlet Witch, one of the most powerful beings that ever lived in Marvel Universe, probably among top 3 ever, I don't remember any cosmic being invole to stop her.
Such things are happening all the time in comics.