Originally posted by Soujaboy
Can you explain to me where Abom has waaaaay more experience and training than Colossus? I was just wondering considering the fact that Colossus has trained with some of the most skilled fighters and tacticians in his 35+ years of comic history.More durable, I would like to know where you got this from?
And the best Colossus has shown was fighting toe to toe with Gladiator, one of the physically most powerful beings in the MU. 😉
Exactly.
Originally posted by tkitna
Abomination 7/10Colossus has never impressed me and I think he gets way to much respect.
Obviously, not NEARLY enough respect. 😬
Colossus wins the majority. I have seen nothing so far that would lead me to believe Abom can take down Colossus, while on the other hand, I have seen many reasons as to why Colossus would defeat Abom.
Abom has a base strength and that's it, correct? Unless we're diving into this fear-makes-him-stronger Abom. Which doesn't make any sense. If you're afraid, then you're not going to fight NEARLY as well, which means you still get your ass kicked. Not that it matters, I really don't see him being much stronger than Colossus if at all really.
Besides chemical and book smarts, Colossus is much smarter than Abom fighting wise. Colossus is a much better fighter (having trained with Cyclops, Wolverine, and Nightcrawler for as long as he's been an X-Man), much faster, much more agile, a MUCH better tactician/strategist, more durable...
Along with being the powerhouse on the X-men's side, Colossus was built to take out people either his strength or stronger. Which he's done on several occasions, even when his opponents was far superior in strength. His fighting skills easily won him the victory over these stronger opponents.
Need I go on?
I was thinking, that is Colossus one of the most durable earth born heroes in MU? I mean he has withstood Wolverine's claws and etc. I can remember when his skin was harmed last time.
Btw, anyone can help me to find the latest issue where Wolverine tries to use his claws on Colossus. (I know there are at least 2 occasions)
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Abom has a base strength and that's it, correct? Unless we're diving into this fear-makes-him-stronger Abom. Which doesn't make any sense. If you're afraid, then you're not going to fight NEARLY as well, which means you still get your ass kicked. Not that it matters, I really don't see him being much stronger than Colossus if at all really.Besides chemical and book smarts, Colossus is much smarter than Abom fighting wise. Colossus is a much better fighter (having trained with Cyclops, Wolverine, and Nightcrawler for as long as he's been an X-Man), much faster, much more agile, a MUCH better tactician/strategist, more durable...
Along with being the powerhouse on the X-men's side, Colossus was built to take out people either his strength or stronger. Which he's done on several occasions, even when his opponents was far superior in strength. His fighting skills easily won him the victory over these stronger opponents.
Need I go on?
Clearly you've never seen a cornered man or animal fight.
Abom is stronger and more durable.
Colossus is on a team!!
There's a reason for that.
Originally posted by UniOmniHave you seen Colossus go into a rage? He's killed f*ckers before.
Clearly you've never seen a cornered man or animal fight.
Originally posted by UniOmniStronger yea. More durable? Prove it.
Abom is stronger and more durable.
Originally posted by UniOmniWhat difference does that make? Alot of bricks are on a team. That means nothing.
Colossus is on a team!!There's a reason for that.
Again:
Abomination creams Colossus. Easily.
Abomination has waaaay more experience plus training, than Colossus.
And, yes, Fear can trigger adrenaline dumps. And, whether it does or not, how do we know that the adrenaline is even the chemical trigger for Emil?
Anyway, Abomination has proven himself against top-tier guys. And, I believe we are supposed to be using characters at thier "best".
If that is the case, Emil is smarter, more experienced, stronger, can increase potential strength, more durable and generally nastier.
I just read on of his last battles with Hulk. Savage Hulk. And, Emil trashed him thoroughly.
Emil wins this.
And, bull****! Colossus has been cut a lot more than Emil.
Originally posted by snoopdoggUmm sme of those guys are pretty good top tier strength guys some of whom are far stonger than Colussus is.
Abom. has never defeated a top tier other than Hulk. Namor, Wonderman, Herc. Weakened Norrin Radd.....Abom does not have better training than Colossus. Abom is a guy who just walks into a fight and tries to smash sh!t.
Although Piotr does have better training then Emil but Emil has been in enough fights not to be overtaken in pure skill to easily.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Abom. has never defeated a top tier other than Hulk. Namor, Wonderman, Herc. Weakened Norrin Radd.....Abom does not have better training than Colossus. Abom is a guy who just walks into a fight and tries to smash sh!t.
No duh 😐
But so is Savage Hulk, and for all of his efforts, Ben could never beat him.
Same situation here, except its Abomination and Pitor