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this is the big one
Spider-man vs Superman
This is not a fight i repeat this is not a fight this is to determan who is the better character bigger icon and who has proven to be more importaint and more progressive to comics since their creation both of these flagship characters represent everything their compines worked to perfect for the past 50+ years so who's come out on top?
Originally posted by Darth Martin
Superman is more of an iconic figure IMO. Spidey gets the little kids tho.
They're both too great characters it is hard to decide who is better.
true and false at the same time yes sups will always be iconic he's pretty much concidered to be the first super hero and because of that he will always edge in ahead of any other hero, but ever since spidy came along it's been close between the 2, i did a random pole once a long time ago and people would rather be spidy than sups purely because we can all relate to him more, he has superpowers but goes through the exact same things we do he's the everyman hero and right now he's argueably the most popular hero in the world
Originally posted by lando005
true and false at the same time yes sups will always be iconic he's pretty much concidered to be the first super hero and because of that he will always edge in ahead of any other hero, but ever since spidy came along it's been close between the 2, i did a random pole once a long time ago and people would rather be spidy than sups purely because we can all relate to him more, he has superpowers but goes through the exact same things we do he's the everyman hero and right now he's argueably the most popular hero in the world
Everyone knows Superman. There's a friggin' statue of him in the United Nations Building. Spider-Man will never have the iconism nor popularity that Superman has. Superman as an icon is as eternal as Robin Hood, Merlin and Jesus Christ.
Spider-Man's popularity is solely limited to one or two generations. Superman expands to all generations.
No comic book character will ever compare to Superman in terms of iconism, popularity or reverance....
Originally posted by Draco69
Everyone knows Superman. There's a friggin' statue of him in the United Nations Building. Spider-Man will never have the iconism nor popularity that Superman has. Superman as an icon is as eternal as Robin Hood, Merlin and Jesus Christ.Spider-Man's popularity is solely limited to one or two generations. Superman expands to all generations.
No comic book character will ever compare to Superman in terms of iconism, popularity or reverance....
your right everyone knows superman your right about that much he's the grandfather of superheroes nobody's knocking that, but spiderman IS and always WILL be the everyday hero superman has always stood above the crowds with his lager than life image but spider-man has always been just an ordinary guy like the rest of us that's what made him so popular in his 40+ year history the fact that he's no diffrent than you or me any one of us with the same morals can wear his costusme while superman's be elevated to the statis of some sort of superhero god that diffrence the ability to connect with the common man is what i belive makes spidy a bit more poplular than sups
Originally posted by lando005
your right everyone knows superman your right about that much he's the grandfather of superheroes nobody's knocking that, but spiderman IS and always WILL be the everyday hero superman has always stood above the crowds with his lager than life image but spider-man has always been just an ordinary guy like the rest of us that's what made him so popular in his 40+ year history the fact that he's no diffrent than you or me any one of us with the same morals can wear his costusme while superman's be elevated to the statis of some sort of superhero god that diffrence the ability to connect with the common man is what i belive makes spidy a bit more poplular than sups
Spider-Man isn't more popular than Superman. You're basing your assumptions of Spider-Man's popularity on Western percepton. People in China hate Spider-Man. So do people in Thailand. That's several hundred million people right there. Why? Cultural differences. Spider-Man is a popular Western hero because he's an everyday New Yorker. But Superman's ideals are universal. He's a godlike persona who only wishes to help people and save people.
Superman is not a comic book icon. Spider-Man is a comic book icon. Superman is A icon. A persona who's popularity has inspired democracy, freedom and his the figurehead for many non-profit organizations. Superman is so popular that he's second to friggin Jesus Christ on the Time Magazine's most recognizable names.
SECOND to friggin Jesus Christ. That's how popular the guy is. The United Nations has a statue in the lobby commerating him. Superman is so blasted popular, the city of Metropolis in Ohio spends billions of dollars for a parade honoring him.
Superman is nearly a religous figure. Spider-Man is just a comic bookc character to people. And that's all he'll ever be....
Originally posted by Draco69
Spider-Man isn't more popular than Superman. You're basing your assumptions of Spider-Man's popularity on Western percepton. People in China hate Spider-Man. So do people in Thailand. That's several hundred million people right there. Why? Cultural differences. Spider-Man is a popular Western hero because he's an everyday New Yorker. But Superman's ideals are universal. He's a godlike persona who only wishes to help people and save people.Superman is not a comic book icon. Spider-Man is a comic book icon. Superman is A icon. A persona who's popularity has inspired democracy, freedom and his the figurehead for many non-profit organizations. Superman is so popular that he's second to friggin Jesus Christ on the Time Magazine's most recognizable names.
SECOND to friggin Jesus Christ. That's how popular the guy is. The United Nations has a statue in the lobby commerating him. Superman is so blasted popular, the city of Metropolis in Ohio spends billions of dollars for a parade honoring him.
Superman is nearly a religous figure. Spider-Man is just a comic bookc character to people. And that's all he'll ever be....
Superman is the bigger icon, no doubt. But Spiderman is more popular these days. U.S aside, Superman isn't really all that popular, just extremely recognizable. Hell, there are dozens of countries where they don't even sell Superman comics anymore. Unlike Spiderman comics, which are still going strong everywhere.
Originally posted by lando005
i already said superman is the more iconic figure, he's not the onlyone who only wishes to help people, yes there are places where siperman isnt liked the same can be said of sups superman is an idea a hope that somebody will come and save the day and make things better, spider-man repersents an ideal that people can make a diffrence if you have the power to do something why not put it to good use both these characters represent this but they do it from 2 diffrent positions in socity, superman sits above the people he always has and always will sit above the people who idolize him spider-man IS one of us an average guy just trying to do what's right superman cant connect to people like that in a way the 2 heros work together very well the consept of spidy reaches to the people the idea of sups doesnt this makes spidy a bit more than just a comic book character
Spider-Man is just a comic-book character. A popular figure in pop culture. That's it. People only know him because of the success of his movies.
You're arguing which character is better in regardance to character. Which is debatable due to preferences.
But Superman is simply the more favored, the more revered and the very eptiome of what humanity could hope to be.
When 9/11 happened, who did people turn to? Spider-Man or Superman? Superman. Superman and American Flags were literaly synomonous when 9/11 happened. Superman isn't about connecting with everyday man. He's about inspiring hope for the future. That everything is going to be all right. Spider-Man doesn't hold an eighth of an ounce of the inspiration Superman causes around the world. In third-world countries, people revere Superman as a savior and angel that will save them from their sorrows. In Iraq and Israel, soldiers were military-sanctioned S-Shields on their uniforms as a sign of hope.
Superman inspires. Spider-Man doesn't. In some military units, it's REQUIRED to have a Superman tattoo on your shoulder. That's how much heroism he inspires. Spider-Man will never have that.
He's a pop culture figure that's just became popular when the movies came out. He's colol and modern. He's a fun character to watch. That's it.
Until he gets a statue in Washington, Spider-Man will never usurp Supes' place as the icon and the most revered comic book character in the world and history...
Originally posted by Dinalfos
Superman is the bigger icon, no doubt. But Spiderman is more popular these days. U.S aside, Superman isn't really all that popular, just extremely recognizable. Hell, there are dozens of countries where they don't even sell Superman comics anymore. Unlike Spiderman comics, which are still going strong everywhere.
Superman isn't a comic book character around the world. As you said, he's an icon. His comics don't sell...but the dozens of non-profit organizations that feature his name and his shield do.
MILLIONS of firms have to dish out cash to DC to respect the copyright llaws. Superman is more profitable and populat than Spider-Man's comics.
The Ohio Metropolis parade alone rakes in more money a year for Superman than Spider-Man 1 AND 2 combined.....
I think while Supes is more iconic in the full-time heroic way, but I believe Spiderman to be more iconic overall. Superman reaches out to being a hero and for doing things the American way. Spiderman shows everyone the right to do something and being able to stand up for yourself and others. People learn moral things from him and use him as a family figure. Spiderman isn't just some guy in a suit, but a way of being and a character anyone can look up to. Supes takes flight in our darkest hour, while Spiderman reaches down to save us, no matter the cost to himself or the villain. I remember once reading an article about a young kid who was very sick, and his major wish was to see his role model: Spiderman. Pete teaches us a ton of things on what to do and how to be a better person. Spiderman ISN'T just some fad. He's webbed himself into our hearts, and he isn't coming out.
Spiderman takes this.
Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
I think while Supes is more iconic in the full-time heroic way, I believe Spiderman to be a bit more iconic. Superman reaches out to being a hero and for doing things the American way. Spiderman shows everyone the right to do something and being able to stand up for yourself and others. People learn moral things from him and use him as a family figure. Spiderman isn't just some guy in a suit, but a way of being and a character anyone can look up to. Supes takes flight in our darkest hour, while Spiderman reaches down to save us, no matter the cost to himself or the villain. I remember once reading an article about a young kid who was very sick, and his major wish was to see his role model: Spiderman. Pete teaches us a ton of things on what to do and how to be a better person. Spiderman ISN'T just some fad. He's webbed himself into our hearts, and he isn't coming out.Spiderman takes this.
That's because we're comic fans. Peter Parker was geek back then who became a hero.
Superman? He's an icon to EVERYONE regardless of race, origin, country, ethnicity, sexuality, gender and religion.
That's great for the kid.....but Superman has a friggin HOSPITAL named after him in South Africa where they treat AIDS patients...
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Anywho who thinks that Spider-Man is ANYWHERE near the iconism of Superman is friggin' kidding themselves.
It's like saying Scientology is more popular than Christianity....
Originally posted by Draco69
Superman isn't a comic book character around the world. As you said, he's an icon. His comics don't sell...but the dozens of non-profit organizations that feature his name and his shield do.MILLIONS of firms have to dish out cash to DC to respect the copyright llaws. Superman is more profitable and populat than Spider-Man's comics.
The Ohio Metropolis parade alone rakes in more money a year for Superman than Spider-Man 1 AND 2 combined.....
Yes, but Superman is first and foremost a comic book character. And in that respect, he's not quite where Spiderman is right now. People worldwide know Superman, but they don't really know(nor care) who or what he is. Except that he's a man with a cape and a symbol on his chest. We've come to a point where the brand name has surpassed the actual character in terms of popularity.
So I honestly believe you're overestimating the impact he made. He's recognized, he's frequently referenced. That's it. I agree that Spiderman is purely an icon of pop culture, whereas Superman has transcended that. But mostly the name, not the character.
Originally posted by Draco69
That's because we're comic fans. Peter Parker was geek back then who became a hero.Superman? He's an icon to EVERYONE regardless of race, origin, country, ethnicity, sexuality, gender and religion.
That's great for the kid.....but Superman has a friggin HOSPITAL named after him in South Africa where they treat AIDS patients...
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Anywho who thinks that Spider-Man is ANYWHERE near the iconism of Superman is friggin' kidding themselves.
It's like saying Scientology is more popular than Christianity....
You just ignored everything I said. People look up to Superman for a hero, but when they need a friend or an idol, they look for Spiderman. What you said about race and religion isn't true. They don't look up to him. They see him as a hero they can trust and can use to put in example of the AMERICAN way. Iranian aren't looking up to Supes. Canadians don't look up to Supes. Americans do. Comics just show that to give off a bigger effect. I have penpals all over the world that think Parker is the single greatest fictional character ever. Why? Because he gives them example. Superman just flies around and saves people. Spiderman allows people to learn and think, not just be saved and that's it. Spiderman is a friend to anyone and everyone who needs one. Superman is just a savior. He's liked for being able to save them. Spiderman is adored for being a hero to everyone.
Originally posted by Draco69
That's great for the kid.....but Superman has a friggin HOSPITAL named after him in South Africa where they treat AIDS patients...
So what? There's a toy in Japan called Superman with Spiderman's face on it. It's a cool name. Superman reaches to comic readers. My sister loves Spiderman, yet never read the comics. Why? Because she knows how great of a character he is and how influential he is to anyone who needs it.